Shaw as Left CB?

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He's shown to be quite good at defending. Maybe not the most amazing going forward but decent. And with Williams doing well, and great at getting forward and Lindelof being fairly average how about Luke in Left CB role?

Williams Shaw Maguire AWB?
 

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Shaw as LCB in a back 4 has disaster written all over it, He works there in a back 3 because it’s a Hybrid LB/LCB with a lot of players around him.
 

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He's shown to be quite good at defending. Maybe not the most amazing going forward but decent. And with Williams doing well, and great at getting forward and Lindelof being fairly average how about Luke in Left CB role?

Williams Shaw Maguire AWB?
Far too much of a gamble, after nearly a decade playing left-back with the touchline protection he still hasn't worked out how to play that position properly, he'd be far too exposed centrally, looks okay on paper, as AWB Maguire Shaw Williams though.
 

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And we've been upset at Lindeløfs heading this season.
Sorry mate, but that's an absolutely horrible suggestion
 

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And we've been upset at Lindeløfs heading this season.
Sorry mate, but that's an absolutely horrible suggestion
Shaw is actually very good in the air. Whenever opposition teams deliver crosses to the back post from the right, he's absolutely superb at dealing with the danger.
 

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He's no worse than Lindelof.
In reality, he’s probably a far worse Centre Back than Lindelof (who I don’t think is great). Being defensively good at LB is different to being defensively good LCB in a back 3 which is also different to being defensively good at LCB in a back 4.

Your position on the pitch, the areas you collect the ball, where the passing options are, where you have to be aware of danger, all change depending on position/role and formation. Isn’t as simple as, he defends we’ll here, he can play well LCB back 3, he can play CB in a 4
 

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In reality, he’s probably a far worse Centre Back than Lindelof (who I don’t think is great). Being defensively good at LB is different to being defensively good LCB in a back 3 which is also different to being defensively good at LCB in a back 4.

Your position on the pitch, the areas you collect the ball, where the passing options are, where you have to be aware of danger, all change depending on position/role and formation. Isn’t as simple as, he defends we’ll here, he can play well LCB back 3, he can play CB in a 4
I didn't say it was simple as that. I also don't think he's incapable of learning a bit. He wasn't born out of his mum's womb as a LB. I think he's got the skills to learn it and be at least as effective as Lindelof.
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
 

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Think someone posted a map of his average positions and it showed that as a LCB in a back 3, his average position was almost exactly the same as Brandon Williams.
 

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Shaw is actually very good in the air. Whenever opposition teams deliver crosses to the back post from the right, he's absolutely superb at dealing with the danger.
For a fullback.
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
:lol:
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
weve seen seasons of square pegs in round holes now. Young and valencia as wingbacks. Mctominay and matic at centre back. Mata lingard pereira pretty much anyone who will have a go at right wing playing there. I cant see why on earth we would go back to that. I dont see why everyone has this idea that shaw and AWB never ever go forward. Everyone seems to think that TAA is the new standard, not the once in a generation talent he is. Its a bit like saying every forward theres been since Messi is shite so should be made into a central midfielder. Quite a funny post to be honest though.
 

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Shaw is actually very good in the air. Whenever opposition teams deliver crosses to the back post from the right, he's absolutely superb at dealing with the danger.

Haha I read some rubbish on here but that is magnificent
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
Mate ..if this isn't a joke then you need to take up a different sport
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
People complain about Matic not being agile and fast. Then suggest Maguire as CDM. Caf for you.
 

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Nah, he's barely good enough in his natural position as is why shoehorn him elsewhere?
 

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I suggested this as well on the Shaw performance thread, I know its risky but Shaw has looked great as RCB in a back 5. As left back he doesnt attack good enough but he is solid on defence, I think its worth a shot we may end surprised, remember Sergio Ramos used to be an average right back and end up being a top centerback.
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
Maguire is way too slow to play anything that isnt CB.
 

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We need not bend backwards to accommodate a player who has more hype than substance. If he can't compete for LB position, after enjoying years of no competition, he should be shown the door
 

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Shaw as LCB in a back 4 has disaster written all over it, He works there in a back 3 because it’s a Hybrid LB/LCB with a lot of players around him.
Thankfully someone with some sense . Honestly some of the posts on here make me believe that the posters have never played or never have been to a football game .. Shaw as a CB is hilarious and AWB and Shaw as a CB pairing is even more hilarious
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
I actually think you're on to something here. But I would say you have it a bit upside down. With our pressing style, I think some of our best defenders actually could be more useful closer to goal. It could lead to many chances. It wouldn't be a risk to have them so high up the pitch because we have hardworking attacking players doing good defensive work for the team. They are also much quicker than standard defender which would help. Nobody knows how to deal with attackers better than someone who is himself an attacker. I'd go with:

DDG
Rashford-Lingard-Bruno-Martial

(The most techical, quick, offensive backline in the league)
Shaw-Mata
(Playmakers galore, good balance)
AWB-Maguire-Bailly
(Strong, tough forward line, the leagues most effective pressing side)
Fred
(tap ins)​
 

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Williams is doing fine but he's not doing "he should now be our definite first choice left back" well. Shaw has played well as a LCB in a back 3.
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
one of your best :lol:
 

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It’s not the worst idea, though is it just me or does he look like he’s about 5’9 when he’s actually 6’1?
 

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Linde seem to be no better than Shaw at defending. But maybe Shaw as out new CDM (which people seem to be obsessed about)
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
This is a joke, right?
 

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There is difference being 1 of the 2 CB, Vs 1 of the 3 CB. Shaw looks OK as a 3xCB when there are 2 other players covering his ass. Tasking as CB also meant you are not required (Sheffield Utd excl) to push forward as much and only need to mark your target.

So don't get lure into a false sense of security, but is good to see a Plan B formation with players adaptable to it.
 

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I actually think Shaw has been doing pretty well the last couple of games and is still only 24.
Hopefully he can get back to the player he was before the leg break. He needs to lay off the Big Macs though.
 

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CB needs to be fitter and should be able to play months together without rotation. Something we cannot associate with Shaw considering his injury record
 

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I think Wan-Bissaka would be a better fit centrally than Shaw.

Williams-AWB-Maguire-Shaw

looks better than

AWB-Maguire-Shaw-Williams

Not a championship level defense, but for the sake of this thread.
 

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Haha I read some rubbish on here but that is magnificent
@Yagami s right though. Shaw is very decent in the air when dealing with crosses. He's strong/wide and has a good jump. No one really wins an easy header against him because his positioning is good.

The problem would be if he had to play as a proper centre back. It's a different type of heading dealing with long and high balls with a 6ft+ striker standing on your toes.
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
Where’s the white text? Or do you genuinely believe TFM and Maguire are going to be a successful pairing in midfield, covering 2 full backs in central defence?
 

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Call me old fashioned but if a player isn't good enough in his natural position then usually he won't be good enough in a new position.
 

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Long term we should be looking at AWB and Shaw as our CBs because both are excellent defenders. Maguire's ball playing abilities are wasted at CB. Something like this could challenge:

DDG
Laird - AWB - Shaw - Williams
Maguire
TFM - Fred
Bruno
Martial - Rashford​
WUM’ing ?
 

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I actually think you're on to something here. But I would say you have it a bit upside down. With our pressing style, I think some of our best defenders actually could be more useful closer to goal. It could lead to many chances. It wouldn't be a risk to have them so high up the pitch because we have hardworking attacking players doing good defensive work for the team. They are also much quicker than standard defender which would help. Nobody knows how to deal with attackers better than someone who is himself an attacker. I'd go with:

DDG
Rashford-Lingard-Bruno-Martial

(The most techical, quick, offensive backline in the league)
Shaw-Mata
(Playmakers galore, good balance)
AWB-Maguire-Bailly
(Strong, tough forward line, the leagues most effective pressing side)
Fred
(tap ins)​
Love it :lol:
 

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He's shown to be quite good at defending. Maybe not the most amazing going forward but decent. And with Williams doing well, and great at getting forward and Lindelof being fairly average how about Luke in Left CB role?

Williams Shaw Maguire AWB?
Not in a back four. In a back 5 with more advanced full backs, yes.