Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

[Adam-Utd]

We differ slightly then as I'm of the opinion CB followed by Sancho. All will be revealed in the coming months though..

Off topic as not allowed to post in F1 thread but enjoy reading your comments which are very informative.

Thanks pal. Don't get me wrong i'd like a CB also, but I think our defensive record isn't bad at all, where as the front lads (Greenwood,Martial,Rashford) will no doubt get tired and we need quality back up. Not sure James/Mata are going to really cut the mustard if we get back into the CL! Sancho is one of the best attackers of his generation, we will end up regretting it like not getting Hazard IMO.

 

[Adisa]

Dawson is saying the same and also says we'll target a CB instead possibly.

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Bummer.

 

[keithsingleton]

Thanks pal. Don't get me wrong i'd like a CB also, but I think our defensive record isn't bad at all, where as the front lads (Greenwood,Martial,Rashford) will no doubt get tired and we need quality back up. Not sure James/Mata are going to really cut the mustard if we get back into the CL! Sancho is one of the best attackers of his generation, we will end up regretting it like not getting Hazard IMO.

Wasn't happy myself when we lost out on Hazard as he was a perfect fit for us. Always knocked me sick watching him play for the chavs.
Mata been a great servant but the time is now right to let him go and definitely can se him leaving this summer. Apparantly in talks with Fenerbahce and close to a agreement.

Think they will keep James just as a back up/squad player.

 

[Lash]

I think with likely pogba staying, we will map a path for Mejbri to the first team and sack off this signing.

 

[LuckyScout78]

Save the money on a new RW, that is on the same and top level like Sancho or Gnabry. To compete with City, Pool and B.Munchen.
Grealish is really good. But he is not on top level. United need a specialist wide player. So United can develop Greenwood as CF for full time. Greenwood as RW in need, when United current RW are not good.

A RW and A CM are top priority. Grealish is a nr.10, LW or LCM.
There a few who are on Sancho and Gnabry level. On Grealish level, there are many out there in the world. Spend and work your time to get unique one. First. If not, then plan B, C.

Fix your weakest point first. Last summer lesson. United didn’t buy a nr.10 last summer and no new RW. It lead to United were close to be far away and out of reach for top 4. Luckily Bruno arrive 1.Feb as a new nr.10 and save Ole and United season. Don’t repeat the mistake. You fix the biggest and most important problem of your car first. Then 2nd and 3 rd. So that are my advice.

 

[charlenefan]

See we've gone about this all wrong, we should have leaked to the press our interest before the game and wait till afterwards till we do a 360 on it

Just given him extra motivation for tomorrow now

 

[DWelbz19]

Dawson is saying the same and also says we'll target a CB instead possibly.

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Good news. A pacey CB is more pressing.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

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Ducker is Tier 1 according to Reddit reliability guide and talks about us not interested in Grealish if Pogba stays. The article:

"Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is hopeful Paul Pogba will sign a new contract with Manchester United, with Jack Grealish’s prospects of a move to Old Trafford fading.

Grealish, the Aston Villa playmaker who is due to face United at Villa Park on Thursday evening, had been identified as a leading midfield target in the event Pogba left this summer.

But United are increasingly optimistic about the prospects of Pogba remaining at the club and Solskjaer is likely to prioritise strengthening other areas of his team over the midfield in the transfer window.

The United manager is particularly keen to add a right-sided forward, with Borussia Dortmund and England winger Jadon Sancho his primary target, but he is also in the market for a striker and, beyond that, a centre-half"

 

[Adnan]

I think with likely pogba staying, we will map a path for Mejbri to the first team and sack off this signing.

And that would be to my liking..

 

[-Supreme-]

Dawson is saying the same and also says we'll target a CB instead possibly.

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Henry Winter has also said the same thing in the podcast yesterday

 

[croadyman]

Didn't you say that reliable reddit itk said our targets are RW and CB

Yeah I did say that and looks like they have well called it right so fair play. Will be pleased if we sign a top drawer one but still concerned about drop off when Pogba & Bruno aren't there.

 

[croadyman]

Henry Winter has also said the same thing in the podcast yesterday

Winter said he couldn't see the need for him but didn't have any information. Mind you that amounts to the same stance as Dawson/Ducker/Whitwell for me.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

And that would be to my liking..

How old is he? Does he look ready for the Pl next season? I feel it's to soon for him to be back up to our midfield

 

[Adnan]

How old is he? Does he look ready for the Pl next season? I feel it's to soon for him to be back up to our midfield

He will be on the cusp in 12 months time IMO. Signing Sancho would give us a fantastic option on the right but it would also give us the option of him covering Rashford and Bruno so I see very little point in signing Grealish unless Pogba left which doesn't look to be the case.

And the above is enough time to prepare Mejbri for the first team and what I call good long-term planning.

Mejbri is 17

 

[croadyman]

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Ducker is Tier 1 according to Reddit reliability guide and talks about us not interested in Grealish if Pogba stays. The article:

"Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is hopeful Paul Pogba will sign a new contract with Manchester United, with Jack Grealish’s prospects of a move to Old Trafford fading.

Grealish, the Aston Villa playmaker who is due to face United at Villa Park on Thursday evening, had been identified as a leading midfield target in the event Pogba left this summer.

But United are increasingly optimistic about the prospects of Pogba remaining at the club and Solskjaer is likely to prioritise strengthening other areas of his team over the midfield in the transfer window.

The United manager is particularly keen to add a right-sided forward, with Borussia Dortmund and England winger Jadon Sancho his primary target, but he is also in the market for a striker and, beyond that, a centre-half"

My gut feeling is that we will sell a couple of CB's probably Rojo & Smalling to make room for a new one, personally don't think there is anything in the links to a striker but can see links to a midfielder picking up again if we can sell two of Mata/Lingard/Pereira/Sanchez.

So in other words three in which would be Sancho, CB & AM and four out which I can see being Smalling, Rojo, Lingard & Sanchez

 

[croadyman]

Apparently the 5 substitution rule will carry on for the whole of next season too. Quality depth would be really important

Yeah if this rule does come in then signing another creative midfielder to backup Pogba & Bruno is an absolute must

 

[sherrinford]

Yeah if this rule does come in then signing another creative midfielder to backup Pogba & Bruno is an absolute must

The rule has no bearing at all on the importance of cover for Pogba and Fernandes.

 

[nainaisson]

Dawson is saying the same and also says we'll target a CB instead possibly.

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I guess decent squad depth is only for clubs like Manchester City.

If we lose Pogba and Bruno to injury, our creativity in midfield will be nil. It's hard to believe Ole is willing to risk this.

 

[Lash]

And that would be to my liking..

Likewise. I fully expect his debut next season. It would be nice if we come out the blocks fast in competitions, so he gets obligatory 89th min sub on early in the season.

 

[Zoo]

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[izec]

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Contradicting report to the one tweet before, where it said Grealish wouldnt be a target if Pogba stays. I hope we buy all 3 (Grealish, Sancho and a CB). Sell and get rid of Mata, Lingard, Jones, Smalling, Rojo and maybe one or two other players i forgot about. We need quality squad depth if we want to challenge. One or two key injuries in midfield or defense, and we would be in trouble. And we will have some injuries at some point, we always do.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

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Maybe Ducker saying we are no longer interested in Grealish is to get Villa to reduce their price

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Contradicting report to the one tweet before, where it said Grealish wouldnt be a target if Pogba stays. I hope we buy all 3 (Grealish, Sancho and a CB). Sell and get rid of Mata, Lingard, Jones, Smalling, Rojo and maybe one or two other players i forgot about. We need quality squad depth if we want to challenge. One or two key injuries in midfield or defense, and we would be in trouble. And we will have some injuries at some point, we always do.

Yeah you forgot about the biggest and main priority to get off the books, fecking Sanchez.

 

[UpWithRivers]

I guess decent squad depth is only for clubs like Manchester City.

If we lose Pogba and Bruno to injury, our creativity in midfield will be nil. It's hard to believe Ole is willing to risk this.

Lets think about this. If we get Sancho he can play on the left. So can Martial and so can James. Grealish is not needed in the front line at all. If Fernandes is injured then we have Pogba and vice versa. Would we really not play Fred or McTominay if one of them are injured? If not whats the point of them. If Fernandes is injured then we would revert to a 4-3-3 with two of Matic/Fred/McTomainay + Pogba pushing up. If Pogba is injured then we would play 2 of Matic/Fred/McTomiinay + Fernandes. With the attack we would have this would be more than enough. So the only problem is if Pogba + Fernandes gets injured or we rest both of them at the same time. This hopefully is a rare scenario if they both get injured and if we are not playing both of them then the opposition is probably a weaker team - FA cup etc. Should we get Grealish for 50 mill to sit on the bench waiting for this possibility or to play against weaker opposition?

But lets say Pogba + Fernandes do get injured - it could happen. We could play one of Mata/Periera/Lingard - we wont sell all of them. So Mata in the 10 and 2 Fred/Mc Tominay midfield. Yes its not ideal. Id rather they all go but its not going to happen. And if they stay and we need players in the scenarios listed above then we are in an emergency situation and will have to make do. Even if it will be nice to get another better bench option than Mata/Periera/Lingard then is Grealish really the answer? Mainly because of the money - 50 mill ish. Heck if we can blow 50 mill for Grealish to wait around for odd games then why not. But we dont have that kind of money. And we could use the money elsewhere. Wouldn't it make more sense to spend the Grealish money on a Konate/Upamacano 40/50 mill and find a cheap back up creative player - Emiliano Buendía for instance.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Lets think about this. If we get Sancho he can play on the left. So can Martial and so can James. Grealish is not needed in the front line at all. If Fernandes is injured then we have Pogba and vice versa. Would we really not play Fred or McTominay if one of them are injured? If not whats the point of them. If Fernandes is injured then we would revert to a 4-3-3 with two of Matic/Fred/McTomainay + Pogba pushing up. If Pogba is injured then we would play 2 of Matic/Fred/McTomiinay + Fernandes. With the attack we would have this would be more than enough. So the only problem is if Pogba + Fernandes gets injured or we rest both of them at the same time. This hopefully is a rare scenario if they both get injured and if we are not playing both of them then the opposition is probably a weaker team - FA cup etc. Should we get Grealish for 50 mill to sit on the bench waiting for this possibility or to play against weaker opposition?

But lets say Pogba + Fernandes do get injured - it could happen. We could play one of Mata/Periera/Lingard - we wont sell all of them. So Mata in the 10 and 2 Fred/Mc Tominay midfield. Yes its not ideal. Id rather they all go but its not going to happen. And if they stay and we need players in the scenarios listed above then we are in an emergency situation and will have to make do. Even if it will be nice to get another better bench option than Mata/Periera/Lingard then is Grealish really the answer? Mainly because of the money - 50 mill ish. Heck if we can blow 50 mill for Grealish to wait around for odd games then why not. But we dont have that kind of money. And we could use the money elsewhere. Wouldn't it make more sense to spend the Grealish money on a Konate/Upamacano 40/50 mill and find a cheap back up creative player - Emiliano Buendía for instance.

I think this is a well thought out viewpoint.

At some point Fred and McTominay deserve a bit of credit for keeping us going without Pogba and Bruno for the majority of our season and deserve to be our squad options.

It’s also worth pointing out Sancho can play CAM too and has done so for Dortmund this season.

Essentially while talent wise Grealish would be a nice addition there isn’t a burning need for him if Sancho arrives and Pogba stays which appears to be the case and there are enough concerns about his attitude to warrant questioning a £40-60m purchase for him to not start.

 

[onemanarmy]

Contradicting report to the one tweet before, where it said Grealish wouldnt be a target if Pogba stays. I hope we buy all 3 (Grealish, Sancho and a CB). Sell and get rid of Mata, Lingard, Jones, Smalling, Rojo and maybe one or two other players i forgot about. We need quality squad depth if we want to challenge. One or two key injuries in midfield or defense, and we would be in trouble. And we will have some injuries at some point, we always do.

That would be a fantastic transfer window.

In:
Sancho
Grealish
CB

Out:
Lingard
Jones
Smalling
Rojo
Pereira
Sanchez

We would save a ton on wages, and should recoup a bit from the outgoing transfers.

 

[Adisa]

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This makes more sense.

 

[croadyman]

This makes more sense.

Well we will certainly get a good look at him tonight,just don't want him scoring another belter against us

 

[pascell]

Those on the 'muppetiers' said we have actually agreed a deal with Villa and Grealish (they mentioned this one is through intermediaries that can complete a deal) , we have also done the same with Ajax and VdB.

I do think we need another CM for rotation, especially if we're in the CL next season and I think we will pull the trigger on one, once we've signed Sancho, a CB and sold some deadwood.

 

[CM]

That would be a fantastic transfer window.

In:
Sancho
Grealish
CB

Out:
Lingard
Jones
Smalling
Rojo
Pereira
Sanchez

We would save a ton on wages, and should recoup a bit from the outgoing transfers.

I'd be very happy with a window like that. We desperately need to bridge the gap in quality between our first teamers and squad players.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the posts about Reddit ITKs. I mean a link has been provided so we can all check for ourselves rather than being ITK news here

 

[croadyman]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the posts about Reddit ITKs. I mean a link has been provided so we can all check for ourselves rather than being ITK news here

Yeah now the link has been provided I won't post any more stuff

 

[Deery]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the posts about Reddit ITKs. I mean a link has been provided so we can all check for ourselves rather than being ITK news here

They’re bullshit as if Solskjær is going around telling fecking ITK’s what he wants for his summer transfer window..

 

[croadyman]

Those on the 'muppetiers' said we have actually agreed a deal with Villa and Grealish (they mentioned this one is through intermediaries that can complete a deal) , we have also done the same with Ajax and VdB.

I do think we need another CM for rotation, especially if we're in the CL next season and I think we will pull the trigger on one, once we've signed Sancho, a CB and sold some deadwood.

Yeah hopefully that is the case

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Well we will certainly get a good look at him tonight,just don't want him scoring another belter against us

If he is able to perform well against a full strength United then I think we’ll see what he’s made of.

Big difference doing it against us now compared to before.

 

[croadyman]

If he is able to perform well against a full strength United then I think we’ll see what he’s made of.

Big difference doing it against us now compared to before.

Yeah actually that is very true,we look a different prospect to what he faced back in December

 

[Adamsk7]

Despite Ole’s good work, we still have a lot of deadwood to get rid of. I can guarantee he is not going to want any of the players we shipped out on loan this season.
We’ve got plenty of room for Grealish, Sancho and a CB (plus I’d take Ighalo full time). Just look at this lot!

Smalling
Rojo
Sanchez
Jones
Lingard
Pereira
Chong (loan)
James (loan)
Garner (loan)

Personally I’d also let Mejbri train with the first team as he’s clearly already too good for reserve football. He might as well take up a bench spot over Chong, Garner or James who all need to play consistently at this point in their career.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

I hope he has a dire game tonight!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Yeah actually that is very true,we look a different prospect to what he faced back in December

Us drawing that game was down to some poor defending as well as looking a bit clueless in attack. We are a better team as you say

 

[croadyman]

Despite Ole’s good work, we still have a lot of deadwood to get rid of. I can guarantee he is not going to want any of the players we shipped out on loan this season.
We’ve got plenty of room for Grealish, Sancho and a CB (plus I’d take Ighalo full time). Just look at this lot!

Smalling
Rojo
Sanchez
Jones
Lingard
Pereira
Chong (loan)
James (loan)
Garner (loan)

Personally I’d also let Mejbri train with the first team as he’s clearly already too good for reserve football. He might as well take up a bench spot over Chong, Garner or James who all need to play consistently at this point in their career.

Just can't see Jones leaving as he is out injured until September and expect James to not go out on loan. However the others leaving is very much a strong possibility.