I have stopped all of the above, and so did my United supporting friends, the little that are left.
.He was never the one to lead the line. I honestly believe that because Stretford End showed discontent a lot of others are gaining courage to speak their minds.
Nah, cmon that's harsh and bang out of line mate.
It's a mixture of many things that have gone wrong. I can't think of a bigger cock up than a team having spent 800 odd million and people still calling the squad average/disappointing. But also think it goes beyond just bad spending. Choosing managers who failed is as big a part of the problem considering Woodward has given all his managers plenty of support. He gave LVG and Mourinho a lot of players who they couldn't succeed with. People here wanted Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmain, Depay, Mkhitarian, Sanchez, Lukaku, etc as did our managers at the time. So while in this specific regarding I blame the hierarchy for hiring the managers it's hard to blame them for giving these managers their players. In that sense I think Woodward has always been good.
Personally I think the biggest stick to beat Ed with is that he has been oblivious to what it requires being a DOF and have not been able to see his own shortcomings, and as such look to hire help that actually have expertise. Signing players shouldn’t be down to «whoever is currently manager». There should be a long term plan in which players and managers are signed to fit the plan, while it seems like the higher-ups are fumbling around, blind, in the dark just looking for someone to magically turn in to Klopp/Pep. Theres no long term vision, which has cost us majorly. And thats not on any manager, thats on the people running the show above.
Neville criticised Woodward many times before, this tin foil hat stuff is getting ridiculous now.Solskjaer will be long gone before the glazers think of sacking their man Woodward. Why is it that in a decade Neville has always had the platform to voice criticism of this magnitude at Woodward but only chose to do so now that his mate is in charge of rhe club
Would Gary have said anything if we beat Liverpool ? This shows more a sign of desperation that Ole will be gone end of this season. Rightly so if that's the case too.
His mistake was not getting someone who knows what he's doing in to support him and not recognising the difference between signing players early versus getting them in late.
There were loads in 2005 (anti-Glazers) but because we were successful over the next period it quietened down.
Which is even stranger when he's just come out publically calling out for Woodward to be sacked. Don't see any reason for a difference in policy between managers and other officials.
Nothing and he has not for seven years now. Richard Arnold is commercial director for United (Eds old gig) and has been since Ed got promoted to CEO. Woodward has had little to do with the commercial contracts nowadays other than signing off on them and smiling at the camera when they are announced. Kinda similar as he has been signing off on the whims of our different managers when it comes to player recruitment since he turned CEO.
Pretty sure he would abandon that policy if we had the same manager for the last 7 years getting these results and ending up with such a team after so much money spent.
Then there is no such policy that he will never publically call for the manager to be sacked if it is defeated by an arbitrary timeline of 7 years.
The issue is when we linked with quality. Fans moan what about Greenwood, Rashford etc. Just look at a few weeks ago when we were scoring goals some people were saying there’s no need for Sancho.
That’s a culmination of the last seven seasons. Our recruitment has been absolutely atrocious and we can still view it as questionable since James, Ighalo, AWB (decent RB not worth the 50m. Excellent tacking with suspect position. Atrocious on the ball) don’t give me great confidence.
I’m not sure about who should come in but surely someone who would oversee long term planning of the football team could only be a good thing. We’ve had nothing but scatter gun, reactionary approach towards every situation. I think he’s our biggest problem to be honest. I’m not sure Ole is the one to take us back to the promised land but Woodward ineptitude is definitely hampering our collective progress as a club.
I totally agree with you but you and I as supporters view success and failure on the pitch but the reality is mate with the vampire owners we have Woodward is acing his job evaluation because we have an official chip, wine, and pillow.
He did brought two of those didnt he?
On the other hand if we get top 4 most would feel we're starting to turn things around, academy has been revamped with Butt doing a great job, and our signings have started to make sense with a focus on the right profile rather than big names.
We have had 4 managers and amidst all the failures, the one constant has been him! Its about time he gets accountability for his decisions. By all accounts, he has large influence in our signings.
Because you club should have an over arching strategy on manager choice! I can't believe people don't get this.
What are these "all accounts"? I think it's fair to blame him for the Moyes window, but that comes down to his inexperience at the time, and Moyes' cluelessness. But let's be real for a moment here, and take a look at our managerial hires (which is a far more fair criticism of Woodward). None of the managers we've hired post Fergie have been good enough, and their careers after leaving here have been testament to that. Even Ole, who has been the best of a bad bunch so far, he failed in the PL, and only found managerial success in Norwegian league. Now the big difference has been that Ole actually has modern football ideas, and that alone makes him a significant improvement on his predecessors. The other thing that I'll give Ole credit for is that he is well liked by players, and he brought harmony back to the locker room after the toxic disaster with Mourinho.
Like I mentioned in the previous post, I think the far more fair criticism of Woodward is that he has gotten managerial appointments wrong, although he isn't the only one to blame as it is a board decision overall. I agree with you that we went from one opposite to the other, but on the sporting director matter, I think that is just how we have operated for so many years, and the managers that we hired would have opposed the idea of it as well.
Of course he should go. His role is not to blindly follow whatever manager wants, paying crazy sums for average players like he has done with every manager, starting from Moyes with Fellaini to Ole with AWB and Maguire. If that is the role then why that position even exists.
Historically I guess we assumed that the owners appointing the manager would have some form of football understanding or strategy. Dangerous assumption it turns out. Lurching from LVG to Jose typifies that.
I'm of the opposite viewpoint. It's difficult to get managerial appointments right; that's the part of this that I can personally excuse him for. The part that I fault him for is not having a better Football Operations group which would include some form of sporting director. That's the way its always been done isn't a good excuse to keep doing something, especially when its failed as spectacularly as it has here (I'm kind of tired of each new manager needing to clear out many of the signings of the previous manager).
This word gives me jitters. Hated maths because of it. But not as many jitters as when I hear "Watch the Space"
