charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Martial has proven this season to be a better number 9 beyond any doubt
You’re being kind in saying he’s scored against big teams. None against the top four in the league. And, other than a meaningless goal against Barca, not a great deal more in Europe. He still hasn’t addressed this big game bottler tag.Yes.
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He can never get rid of that tag, rightly so.You’re being kind in saying he’s scored against big teams. None against the top four in the league. And, other than a meaningless goal against Barca, not a great deal more in Europe. He still hasn’t addressed this big game bottler tag.
It’s a pathetic record given the size of price tag. Compare him to someone like Vardy, it’s absolutely night and day.He can never get rid of that tag, rightly so.
Still, he scored in big games i.e. against top teams, even-though the goals are too low, around 1 to 3 goals per season, ridiculous.
Past seasons - vs Chelsea, PSG, City, etc.
Easy rubbish in big games, good consistent scoring in the rest of the games.Lukaku is rubbish but scores 29 goals and 5 assists. Something doesn't add up.
He scored 28 in his opening season for us. Sometimes you have to look beyond the pure numbers and assess basic things like technique, hold up play, link up – all of which are virtually non existent for Romelu.Lukaku is rubbish but scores 29 goals and 5 assists. Something doesn't add up.
I know right.It’s a pathetic record given the size of price tag. Compare him to someone like Vardy, it’s absolutely night and day.
Never scored against City for us (not in a competitive game anyway). His record for us wasHe can never get rid of that tag, rightly so.
Still, he scored in big games i.e. against top teams, even-though the goals are too low, around 1 to 3 goals per season, ridiculous.
Past seasons - vs Chelsea, PSG, City, etc.
That got me curious.Has the lad ever won a trophy? Not looking to be cruel, just genuinely interested.
Yes, not for us. He did for his previous clubs.Never scored against City for us (not in a competitive game anyway). His record for us was
0 goals v City
0 goals v Liverpool
0 goals v Spurs
0 goals v Arsenal
1 goal v Chelsea
If he checked his arrogant ego and was prepared to be a rotation player at a top club then he could have a brimming trophy cabinet. As it happens, he wants to be the main man, but is only really good enough to do so at second tier teams. I think it’s conceivable that he goes through his entire career without a league medal.I know right.
He is a weird player. Specialist flat track bully.
Vardy is really balance, a constant threat against any teams.
I just gave you my theory in a separate reply...That got me curious.
Apparently only once, back at Belgium. Never again. Won many individual awards though.
Just one trophy for a consistent 20+ goals/season striker. Really odd.
no not really. He scored yes, but should have scored more, and was camping in offside position whole game.Barcelona – that’s pretty cool.
Heh, so it was against a second string. Not surprised to hear that he missed a litany of sitters.no not really. He scored yes, but should have scored more, and was camping in offside position whole game.
On of the things written about him after the game:
Paolo Menicucci, Inter reporter
'Out!' is Gazzetta dello Sport's front-page headline. "What a waste," the newspaper continues, lamenting that Lukaku scored but might have had three more.
Barcelona team that day: Neto, Rakitic, Todibo, Lenglet, Wague, Griezmann, Alena, Vidal, Umtiti, Junior Firpo, Carles Perez.
Suarez in -Griezmann out - 63 min.
De Jong in - Rakitić out - 63rd min.
Fati in - Carles Pérez out - 85th min.
Shearer says hiThat got me curious.
Apparently only once, back at Belgium. Never again. Won many individual awards though.
Just one trophy for a consistent 20+ goals/season striker. Really odd.
Ah well deal with it...I hate this type of bullshit terminology that pervades football these days. Just speak normally.
That's his biggest problem, he's not aware he's not really that good but thinks he is.If he checked his arrogant ego and was prepared to be a rotation player at a top club then he could have a brimming trophy cabinet. As it happens, he wants to be the main man, but is only really good enough to do so at second tier teams. I think it’s conceivable that he goes through his entire career without a league medal.
Yeah Lukaku was the better buy in that scenario. Chelsea got shafted on that deal.It was either Lukaku or Morata. I’d argue we shouldn’t have gone for either but If I had to choose it would be Lukaku.
No excuses for Lukaku though. He wasn’t an astute signing for us.
His teammates should be screaming fecking hell lukaku when he’s missing those chanceswhere were u 3 days ago?
Yeah, suppose so... blud.Ah well deal with it...
Incrediblewhere were u 3 days ago?
I think it makes a lot of sense really. He's a great goalscorer, always has been, so in a good team he'll rack up great stats. But the best teams will always lose something with him in the side, because he limits the way you can play, and his technical shortcomings means he'll always get shown up against the very elite, and as such he'll probably limit what his side can achieve.That got me curious.
Apparently only once, back at Belgium. Never again. Won many individual awards though.
Just one trophy for a consistent 20+ goals/season striker. Really odd.
Yeah, we should have saved ourselves £75m and given Martial his chance to be our #9It was either Lukaku or Morata. I’d argue we shouldn’t have gone for either but If I had to choose it would be Lukaku.
No excuses for Lukaku though. He wasn’t an astute signing for us.
If he thinks he's better than he is then why did he go to Inter, and why would someone who has been the main goal scorer basically his entire professional career suddenly be fine with being a 2nd choice striker at 26-27 years old? I'd seriously question his drive if he was ok with going from being the main man to being a rotational player for United when we had been in a nose dive for 6-7 years, especially when he apparently didn't enjoy playing for us anyway. It's not like he was loving life and collecting trophies at Bayern Munich but chose to leave after being told that he wouldn't get as much playing time as before in favour of Lewandowski.That's his biggest problem, he's not aware he's not really that good but thinks he is.
As you've said, he can easily be an ideal rotational striker for any top clubs. Bench him vs big teams, and always play him against the rest. Thinking he would do well similar to our 98/99 4 strikers rotations, but in modern football it's 2 striker rotation. Alas, he just refuse to be one. Left asap after being dropped with us.
Absolutely. This transfer has worked out well for all parties, which is a nice thing to see in the modern game.Nothing has changed has it. Fit, working hard and with a first touch he'd be very dangerous/top class.
He can bully and shoot, and scores in patches or when it's it's a bit flat tracky. That's what you actually get. And if he doesnt fancy it, not that either.
Barcelona B team - was actually the main culprit they lost the match, Napoli and Roma aren't even top teams this season, Milan were in shit form at the time - after the restart i think they're top 3Barcelona, Milan, Napoli and Roma
Isnt that necessary to even be at the top level? They all think they're the best and usually on their way up they were. People like Gary Neville might joke how he was average now but at the time he thought he was the dogs.That's his biggest problem, he's not aware he's not really that good but thinks he is.
It becomes a problem when it prevents the player from improving on improvable aspects of his game. The most disappoint thing about Lukaku is that he has barely improved or tweaked his game since age 21-22. Self confidence is a great thing to have but perfectionism and never believing that you made it is an even greater one.Isnt that necessary to even be at the top level? They all think they're the best and usually on their way up they were. People like Gary Neville might joke how he was average now but at the time he thought he was the dogs.
I dont hold that against Lukaku. I hold his elephant like first touch against him.
Shearer won a league title and was the best player in that team, for Blackburn btw, while Lukaku has played for United and Inter as the main man for 3 seasons total and never won a thing (unless they get something this season)Shearer says hi
Are we going to pretend he didnt score two goals that night in paris?You’re being kind in saying he’s scored against big teams. None against the top four in the league. And, other than a meaningless goal against Barca, not a great deal more in Europe. He still hasn’t addressed this big game bottler tag.
A) He was talking about his time at InterAre we going to pretend he didnt score two goals that night in paris?
Yeah dunno why Contes helping us out but it's nice. The deal works out for Inter too as they get an upgrade on Icardi who wanted to leave, but I think Inter fans now that Lukaku has his limits. As good as a footballer he is with the ball at his feet, a traditional striker he is not.Great business getting rid of Lukaku when you look at the front three you have at the moment who could be tearing it up for a decade. Inter Milan have been a godsend for Utd by taking that donkey alongside Sanchez and Ashley Young from you.