Nobody will give them 80m...Newcastle?
Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract
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At 80m just walk away from this. He's not worth this at all.
That kinda goes both ways though. I'm sure they've had conversations over the years of him wanting to move on after staying to help out the club. Like Ronaldo did for us, like Griezmann did for Atletico.
You don't stand in the way of a player that wants to move and have done so much for you, as long as you get a reasonable price for them.
It's just as much about the message they send about signing new players for them. Why would up and coming talent sign for Villa if they see they get held hostage to abnormal prices if they become better than the club average.
You lot are financially stable but a player kicking up a fuss would quickly disintegrate your upcoming season. Also, if Grealish has any sort of ambition, he will push for a move. If he doesn't, then he probably doesn't have what it takes to succeed in a high pressure environment. He will seem happy to remain a big fish in a small pond. Nothing wrong with that, but want a player who is ready to push to prove himself at the highest level.
If they ask anything more than 50m we should walk away. For 65-80m we can sign someone like VDB and Behrama and still have money left over. We get players for two different positions so we add more to the squad depth.
He won't but there comes a point where he has to think of his career. They gave him a big break but he has repaid the loyalty, stayed with them in the championship, helped them get promoted and helped them stay in the division.
You cannot knock a man for having ambition, he is 25 so it is the perfect time to move.
Opportunities to get the move don't come often when you get older. It all depends on his personal ambitions now.
50 million is a fair price isn't it. Based on his achievements in a weak team I think at a club like ours he would improve again such the quality in players. Sadly this is very much looking like a close book for us now..
We move on.........
Can still get you Bruno Thiago or Partey. Not every good player costs an arm and a leg. I can actually see him replacing Silva at City.
Insane money for someone not proven at the highest level, he’s clearly a brilliant player and I think his swagger would be great in a red shirt.
I don’t think we will sign him though.
I don’t think we will sign him though.
It's not just speculation though is it? Your own manager is resigned to him wanting out and has stated himself he has no idea if Grealish will still be a Villa player.
Also we won't drag this out because we aren't desperate for him. If Villa are asking for a stupid price (and £60-80m is a daft price), we will simply walk and pursue our other targets. The risk on Villa is that you piss off Grealish who quite obviously want to move on from the club. That's going to be toxic for you and barely affects us as we move on to other players.
Villa (and their fans) seem to be looking at this like it's some sort of Harry Maguire situation when it obviously isn't.
They already have Foden to replace Silva.
He would start ahead of Foden if he was there. That's the point
If we can get him for £40-50m that's a good price at a top club like ours for a squad player that can fill most attacking roles if we need him to. He would get plenty of games.
He'd still be cheaper than Bruno, even with the British player tax on top. (Bruno will have cost us £55m early next year after having played 25 games. Can increase by £12.6m more over the next years if he plays well.)
From Villa's perspective it's similar to Maguire. No reason to sell, don't need the money.
City wont spend £80m when they have a £100m talent on their books.
It is the same as us with a striker. We are not buying one for £80m when we have a young one coming thorugh.
It's not the same though, because Leicester knew we were desperate and without alternatives. Plus it was us and City in for the player. That's why they were able to just ask for a stupid fee on top.
With Grealish we 1) aren't desperate for his positions and 2) have alternatives we can pursue. He's not a top target.
As sellers Villa are within their right to ask for a stupid fee but the ramifications are more on them than us. Keeping a player yet another year longer than he wants after a dream club comes calling is going to be toxic for them. I'd be surprised if Grealish himself doesn't push for a transfer in a few days as Sancho gets wrapped up. Us on the other hand have no problem moving on.
Poor Jack. He’s going to have to throw a strop and put in a transfer request if he wants to get his move. I’m pretty sure the Villa fans would not blame him one bit for doing that
I can actually see this dragging on even more than the Sancho transfer. I can see us being reluctant to look at other targets in the hope Villa will lower their price. Lowest the 80m price tag can drop to is 60m which to me is Grealish actual value. But that is still too much for the role we want to use him for
Hopefully he does. But how much effect will thus actually have
£55m tops.
We overpaid for Maguire, but it was pre Covid and Maguire is a England international who just the year before had a good World Cup.
We overpaid for Maguire, but it was pre Covid and Maguire is a England international who just the year before had a good World Cup.
Not a chance. Foden is class.
Hm, tbh don't think he'll go that far, unless they make him miss out on many big club opportunities. If he doesn't get a movie this season, i think he'll be happy to stay for another year but in general I don't think he would do that to his boyhood club.
So people want us to spend 50m on a player that can't bench Foden
Probably £10m too high still, but issue lies in selling clubs not looking to ask for a fair price, they look to make the most of it.
Only way i see this deal happening is if we fail to bring in Sancho and we panic buy him much like Maguie last summer.
We are not paying that for him. Offer 40m, and if not then look elsewhere.
We could get Buendia easily for that price, and he is good as well.
We could get Buendia easily for that price, and he is good as well.
Just can't see it falling through with Sancho. Signs are so positive it's only about agreeing a price. Sancho wants it, we want it. Let's get it done.
As for Maguire? Well I'm not his greatest fan and no doubting he needs back up. Panic buy a understatement.
Pay it, pay it, pay it!
Good posts.
Yeah I am certain he has that Bruno & Cantona swagger to wear this red shirt with pride but think we all recognise that it's only going to happen if he makes it clear to them that he wants to challenge himself at a higher level. Worth remembering that he burst on the scene five years ago with that performance against the scousers in the FA Cup Semi Final and stayed loyal to them even when they went down the following season because could easily have gone then.
And we needed a center back as a top priority.
Sort of underplaying just how good Foden is aren't you?
Only player that would come in to bench Foden is Aouar. Foden would give him a run for his money, and he could end up benching Aouar too. However, it would be a waste to have 2 similar talents there. It wouldn't be fair.
For those prices for Grealish, it would be better to put in a cheeky bid for Aouar. Although I would love to have Grealish if he was cheaper. I like his attitude and playstyle.
Would be a decent punt with a fiver. Stay away otherwise. Pointless overrated signing.
He would be crazy to stay at Villa now. He is a big name and needs to spread his wings and would be perfect for us right now. feck villa and there 80 mil.
The guy also walked in as captain. Money well spent, same with AWB.
For 50-60 million, if we sell Sanchez, Lingard and Perreira for a total of 30-40 million pounds, we should be using that money for Grealish. Get both Sancho and Grealish and we're sorted.
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55 million pounds + add ons up to 80 million sounds okay to me.
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55 million pounds + add ons up to 80 million sounds okay to me.
I can't see Ed spending more money than he did for Bruno for a player that is likely to be rotation
I've always had the feeling he will be a tremendous success at United. Hopefully we can make a deal with Villa.
It's starting to make whatever deal we strike for Sancho seem quite cheap.
Get ready for 3-4 different reported fees once its done
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