English cricket thread

Pakistan did well in the cricket that was played today, clear plan to graft out the first session and get more expansive after, Masood should have been out about 3 times mind. Already feels like this series will be defined by how Babar Azam goes.
 
NinjaFletch said:
In all honesty, I think it's pretty routine and he's made it look a lot harder with how bad an attempt he's made at collecting it.
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At that level it was routine, he hardly moved. It was an easier chance than the catch for sure which either stick or not usually standing up dependant on the edge thickness.
 
This stuff is great fun to watch! Even though its club first team, most have massive beer guts. Tiny boundaries too.



 
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YAMS49 said:
As soon as it was not given any perceived edge would have been tough to overrule. Did look like bat on lower pad though I agree.
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I'd be happy with it not being given on the grounds there's too much doubt, but the speed and certainty with which he decided it had definitely been hit (despite the ultra edge spike looking weird for a think nick) rankled a bit.
 
NinjaFletch said:
I'd be happy with it not being given on the grounds there's too much doubt, but the speed and certainty with which he decided it had definitely been hit (despite the ultra edge spike looking weird for a think nick) rankled a bit.
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Agree with you, doubt though goes to the batsman based on the original not out decision. Ultra Edge needs work on such instances.

What do you think the decision would have been had it been out on field and the batsman reviewed? Not too sure there myself.
 
Feels like the inevitable collapse has started.
 
YAMS49 said:
Agree with you, doubt though goes to the batsman based on the original not out decision. Ultra Edge needs work on such instances.

What do you think the decision would have been had it been out on field and the batsman reviewed? Not too sure there myself.
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Don’t no why they don’t always have hotspot as well, or is it only in Australia that they use it
 
Has Archer actually bowled quickly since his elbow surgery?

I take all the points about him bowling slowly, but it would be nice to have seen more evidence of the fire and brimstone.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Has Archer actually bowled quickly since his elbow surgery?

I take all the points about him bowling slowly, but it would be nice to have seen more evidence of the fire and brimstone.
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No higher than 88mph I think. He's the kind of bowler that needs to be angry to get his top speed. One of those you never sledge, don't provoke him.
 
DOTA said:
When was the surgery?
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After the South Africa series.

YAMS49 said:
No higher than 88mph I think. He's the kind of bowler that needs to be angry to get his top speed. One of those you never sledge, don't provoke him.
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Yes, I think so, and I remember bellyaching about his pace before as well.

I am worried we've seen no evidence of him cranking it up since though, it wouldn't be the most unusual thing if elbow surgery had robbed him of his top pace.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Has Archer actually bowled quickly since his elbow surgery?

I take all the points about him bowling slowly, but it would be nice to have seen more evidence of the fire and brimstone.
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Didn’t know if he was deliberately taking a bit of pace off, and trying to be more accurate in English conditions
 
NinjaFletch said:
Yes, I think so, and I remember bellyaching about his pace before as well.

I am worried we've seen no evidence of him cranking it up since though, it wouldn't be the most unusual thing if elbow surgery had robbed him of his top pace.
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His consistent pace is 86-88, he has an effort ball that rises from no where and appears to be unrecognizable in his action.... But he does seem to be the passive type by nature & needs to be fired up to get those lethal rising deliveries. I'd say he's a better option with crowds present to get the best from him.
 
paulscholes18 said:
Didn’t know if he was deliberately taking a bit of pace off, and trying to be more accurate in English conditions
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Sure, and I think that's both fine and sensible, I mean we saw Wood bowl absolute gas at the Ageas bowl and he got carted everywhere, but I am a bit worried about whether it's still there.
 
Also think this is more nonsense from Root.

You're playing 4 seamers ffs, you can afford to bowl Archer/Woakes for 5 overs with the old ball.
 
30 free runs and 5 overs of sighters before the new ball.

God Root is a fecking moron sometimes.
 
Good running between these 2. Hopefully we can get 270+
 
NinjaFletch said:
Has Archer actually bowled quickly since his elbow surgery?

I take all the points about him bowling slowly, but it would be nice to have seen more evidence of the fire and brimstone.
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I have noticed he gets quicker the longer he gets into a spell, he was @ 88mph before lunch. I think the Australians annoyed him quite a few times (that spell vs Smith was off the heels of Langer questioning if he can bowl quick for several spells) and he'd played a lot of cricket prior so was in good rhythm last summer. Whilst he needs to be looked after I do think he's one of these guys who needs loads of miles in the legs to be at full tilt, he's been up and down this summer rhythm wise.
 
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NinjaFletch said:
Also think this is more nonsense from Root.

You're playing 4 seamers ffs, you can afford to bowl Archer/Woakes for 5 overs with the old ball.
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He could have even given Anderson and Broad an over each prior to the new ball. Add the cheap 27 he's given them in that spell post-lunch to the cheap 20 he gave them last night by not digging his heels in last night over the light.
 
Very well played Shan. Gritty & patient innings.
 
Congrats to Shan for his 100. Fantastic knock and will give entire team massive boost of confidence.
 
350 will be a very good total for Pakistan if they can get there.
Will give the 2 leggies plenty of runs to play with.
 
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I've loved the background noise the Pakistani dressing room have given throughout this innings.
 
Class knock especially considering Anderson's has had him on toast on all previous encounters.
 
So you bowl dog shit with the old ball to rush towards the new ball, completely throw away your grip on the game, and then give up with the new ball after 9 overs?

Awful, awful afternoon from Root. The sort of afternoon where you think surely nobody could do worse.
 
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