I haven't come across a girlfriend analogy regarding Messi situation. Very unlike social media. Hopefully someone does.
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The club which is in poor financial health should let go off their most valuable asset for free despite no legal requirement from their end. When they could get at least a 100-150 million type of fee which can aid their rebuild and transition. In the name of loyalty, they should commit financial suicide. Is that what you're asking them to do?
the story all season will be he is leaving anyway. Maybe he has a bionic season to wrap up
Now we are talking! Barca have dropped the ball here. They'd have cleared 250M off the books (his transfer fee and his wages) but are forcing him to stay. City didn't put in a bid because barca kept threatening a lawsuit publicly. It is too risky to go down that road. Barto doesn't want to be known as the guy who lost Messi, even if his reputation is already in shambles.
I knew it was just posturing. He can't take that challenge, cant take the risk to be exposed.
You're exactly right.
At this point it would be the best for him to leave right now both for him and the club. Him wanting to leave is already bad enough for them as it implies he doesn't believe in the current board and project so for that reason alone I think the club should negotiate his exit this window as he's not fully committed to the club.
He's still a top player and I'm sure he would still act as a professional so it wouldn't be unthinkable he has a great season and has club challenging for the league and UCL but at the same it's going to get very bad for him and the club everytime they lose. They will question his commitment, leadership, etc. and the board will also get heavily criticized so it's like they're sabotaging themselves by the way they've handled all this. What's more I do still think they need a rebuild and Messi has recognized and doesn't trust the current board so it's understandable he wants a fair shot of winning major trophies at a different club with a better project while he still has some years left to play at the top level.
My only criticism to Messi in all this is that he hasn't come forward to make a public statement, which was needed since the embarrassing defeat against Bayern, he's their captain after all and while he gets criticized for his lack of leadership skills all the time I do think this time the situation demanded him to speak up and be clear about his intentions and motives.
Anyway if he stays for another season the shit show is just going to keep on going and has the potential of preventing any efforts to get the club moving forward and assembling a competitive and functional team.
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This where you're respectfully wrong though. Messi did NOT want to leave for free. While hi contract supposedly states he could leave for free at the end of each season he wanted Barca to negotiate with city. His camp has stated many times they wanted an amicable exit. Barca are the ones who refuse to negotiate going through petty mental gymnastics to avoid fielding calls and offers and even ghosting Messi's camp at times when they wanted to find a resolution.
His contract allowed him to unilaterally terminate it. There was nothing distasteful.
If only Amazon planned All or Nothing with Barca for the upcoming season.
If that is the case then that is yet another ball being dropped. This was the perfect opportunity to let Messi go and get money for him. Maybe they think they have a chance of convincing him to sign a new contract.
His reputation is tarnished as it is, if he cannot get Messi to sign a new contract in the next 3 months, Messi will be allowed to negotiate with other clubs in January anyway.
So they have bought themselves 3 months and could end up costing Barca £100m plus in lost transfer value. Seems strange.
Yes, I think while his lawyers told him not to speak publicly about the contract issue, he absolutely should have said something after the Bayern debacle. It never sat right with me that he was silent for so long.
Anyways, looks like he is posting a video himself to make an official statement in 30 minutes finally. His camp has confirmed it. Let's see what he says.
My friends who aren't ncessarily barca fans loved Match Day and said it was really well done. But I can't watch it knowing the anfield match is on there haha
Exactly! Barto is too stubborn, but he may be forced out before the new elections in march. I don't see how anything will change this coming season to change his mind. We are rumoured to be signing Gini and Depay but that isn't enough. Not sure why we aren't going for more defenders and full backs. It's such a toxic mismanaged club I completely sympathize with where Messi is coming from though I wish he would've said something publicly sooner.
Good news for us, maybe a cheeky bid next year if he wants to stay if United can mount a title challenge.
20 minutes messi's camp said he is posting a video to explain everything
Dont worry, we have been there as United fans. Spend money on unnecessary players. Buying Gini is again falling into the same problems. He is 29 when you have signed Pjanic as a CM.
This team needs to be built with younger players, which is what I thought they are trying when they were targeting De Ligt, De jong and this summer Eric Garcia.
Together with Firpo, Fati, just players that can play in positions they need.
Barca have been in decline for a number of years, they have won the league which has taken the spot light of how badly its managed.
Griezman IMO was a total waste of money considering you have Messi who wants to play that free role.
I had forgotten about Griezmann in all this
, he would be a winner in all this if Messi left. He's not at the same level as Messi but some of their attacking players have to accommodate and make up for Messi's lack of work rate. So as it is he's just a waste there so a move from Messi would had helped him, more so if what was said about City negotiations some players on top of the fee but that offer sounded too good to be true.Is it not possible him announcing he’s being forced to stay is an attempt to put pressure on Bartemou to let him go? Seems odd he wouldn’t just announce he’s staying. I guess will have to see how it’s worded.
Isn't Barto on the hook for financial and legal penalties if he resigns or is forced out? The stakes are higher for him than Messi - one is fighting for his survival and the other for trophies. And Messi loves Barca more than Barto's desire to get rid of him. In fights like this, the one with less stakes will concede.
Think I remember koeman saying something about griezmans best role being through the middleI had forgotten about Griezmann in all this
Messi griezman dembele/fati
Is perhaps what he has (or had) planned
Cheers buddy. We need younger players for sure, but coutinho was an even bigger disaster than griezmann. The problem is even hiring legacy players with zero experience like Abidal was just dumb. Coutinho and Griezmann occupy the same space as Messi, what the hell are we doing? Ever since Neymar left, the squandering with all that money is appalling. It has set the club back ten years. Can't wait for the new elections. laporta who was there during the glory pep days is the favorite to win so let's see what happens.
Exactly, if he can hang on until new elections in march he will be off the hook
He should go all out against the board but say he stays for the fans and the club as an institution and perhaps announce this is his last season playing for Barcelona if he plans on leaving next summer.
I think rumours came out last season where Messi wasnt happy and wanted Neymar instead. Unfortunately for Griezman, it didnt click and he may have moved a year or two too late as he lost his pace and pressing ability.I had forgotten about Griezmann in all this
Apparently there is a legal requirement for the deal. They're building their whole strategy on Messi's refusal to ruin the club.
You want differentiated and respectful answers but it seems as if you don't even read the replies you get. Then proceed giving ironic answers. Strange behavior.
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I can actually sense the frustration in you, United fans have exactly the same issue with the club hierarchy.
You build a team around Messi, you know Messi now wont track as much so you don't get players who are similar in Griezman and Coutinho, that money could have been better spend on solidifying the defence and wingers.
It just goes to show, what a few years of mismanagement can do big football clubs. It doesn't matter how much money you spend but if its not spent right, you will get nowhere.
Supposedly that’s what he’s doing. Which is very interesting to me. I think Bartemou wants to sell for a fee. They’d be crazy not to want to cash in. The problem is the backlash. By Messi doing this maybe the narrative will change to Barca fans wanting them to sell him rather than hold him hostage for a year. This way there’s no backlash if he sells him for 100m and they get the cash to rebuild they want and his wages gone. Messi gets his move. Win-win.
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Messi: “I wasn't happy and I wanted to leave. I have not been allowed to leave in any way, and I will STAY at the club so that I do not get into a legal dispute. The management of the club led by Bartomeu is a disaster"
At last you guys are rebounding nicely though. Very envious of the VDB signing!
Will be a weird season for them unless a board change occurs.
So Bartemou is going?
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Pretty hard for him to stay when you read the next tweet
He can only leave if someone pays $700million, what other choice does he have?
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