I couldn't believe people were genuinely praising the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool in this transfer window in order to put us down.
Ed Woodward | Groundhog Day Edition
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Funny that, isn't it? Ask a reasonable price and that's what happens.
Especially when it's quite likely another Ed that did all of the heavy lifting.
Clubs are right to ask what they want for their players. Blaming them for not asking the price we would like is weird logic.
Price is reasonable for Sancho. Also clubs can demand whatever the feck they want. Madrid probably felt the same when we priced them out of a move for Pogba.
Of not having every player totally fatigued before the end of the season.
Hey, its a start.
VDB, Thiago and Sancho. Then we move
Groundhog days is the perfect name for this thread. Well done.
I heard it was a release clause?
40m is huge for ajax player. Probably it was set long ago when vdb is still hot prospect. Peanuts for us. So win win i guess.
40m is huge for ajax player. Probably it was set long ago when vdb is still hot prospect. Peanuts for us. So win win i guess.
Ah that takes me back to my pot smoking days, or is it daze
People just want signings to have bragging rights against other teams fans. Truth is, our need is competition/depth and signing 2 players can solve that, especially if they are versatile.
you cant guarantee a fecking thing with these cnuts over-ruling Ed or any other fecker Who might be given a meaningless title/role
jeez, talk about missing the point. Whoever the best manager/DOF on the planet is, will not be given Carte Blanche to sign a player that might be the last piece in the jigsaw or even a good squaddie.
He means they wont really be in control, woodward still will be
Ah ok. Well there maybe some truth to this, hence why it seems some of the top DoF's haven't come.
No doubt, all a DoF wants to know is his budget. Then the rest is up to him to use it wisely.
Quietly we signed Filip Stevanovic / Hannibal Mejbri / Isak Hansen-Aaroen / Alvaro Fernandez (from madrid) / Marc Jurado (barca) over last year by keeping future in mind. Not bad.
I get that Ed isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it's kinda sad to be trying to shift praise for a signing to everyone else bar him.
Please, can we stop this 1.2B non sense ? Atleast 300-400m worth of that is still in our starting lineup. We have recouped some major money through sales as well. Lets atleast get the facts right before putting everything on Ed.
Ofcourse its always him
So true, I keep saying this....Over last 7 years our net spend is around 600M and we still have players like Pogba/Bruno with us from that money.
yeah, in the last year we supposedly asked Rio and Fletcher for the role, so its transparently not a serious best man for the job. Keep the fans happy and still report to Ed
Tbh, when Ed fails he gets the criticism, rightly so.
However; when he gets it done, we should be praising him. If he gets Sancho done, I am sure he will be trending for the right reasons.
Our first game is next week. Still glaring holes in the squad. What the feck is he waiting for?
Classic Ed.
Will we ever have a strong start to a season with no time for new signings to blend with the squad?
That is assuming we will at least get some more signings which we desperately need.
Men have come out and said we will go for a stop gap for one year. Knowing full well what Ed is capable of, we will spend £40m on Brooks and then be priced out of move for Sancho next summer based on ambition.
If we dont get CL next season, or we do not close the gap on the top, no chance Sancho comes next summer.
If we dont get CL next season, or we do not close the gap on the top, no chance Sancho comes next summer.
You mean after the manager was supported with nearly 300m in signings, doubled our wage bill and then refused to offload players to raise transfer funds....?I've got no faith in him/the glazers whatsoever. Remember when we finished 2nd and we bought Fred and Dalot in the hope of closing an 18 point gap to City
Net spend is a ridiculous argument it really is.
There's far too many moving parts in a transfers these days to simply roll out the net spend argument.
Folks labelled Zlatan "a free". He wasn't, nor was Sanchez.
Between signing on fees, agent fees and lord knows what else it puts a serious dent into the annual budget.
To be fair, praising him for signing a player is a bit like praising a cup for being capable of having water in it. It's literally his job.
I feel it's a bit like the bad kid in school who gets praised everytime they manage to answer a question or go a whole lesson without throwing a chair at anyone. We've been so good at dragging our heels, overpaying or completely ruining transfers since Woodward has been in charge, that people now seem to think it's amazing when we manage to not feck it up. For most competent clubs not fecking it up is just part of the normal routine.
You know that he wanted to offload players but wasn't allowed, right? There were very strong rumours that he wanted Martial gone, for example.
Not saying he was right in his request but we need to be objective.
It may not give a full idea but we use the net spend just for base idea as we need some relative thing to compare our transfer activity
But its a pointless metric cause it doesn't include agent fees, sign on fees or player wages. It's literally taking 1 amount (the transfer fee) that is often disputed anyway and argued as being valid.
Our wage bill has decreased quite a bit since last summer thanks to the loan moves and sales of a number of expensive Jose failures.
Our business under Ole has been pretty damn good thus far and we've plenty of time left in the window to get a few more in and some deadwood moved on.
I was bashing Ed (my bad) in the Reguilon thread and was discussing with another poster who believes recruitment is entirely down to the manager.
For sure recruitment has improved since Ole came in. Is there some mileage in the idea that Ed is not to blame for any of the pre Ole shambles?
For sure recruitment has improved since Ole came in. Is there some mileage in the idea that Ed is not to blame for any of the pre Ole shambles?
Ed is not absolved of any blame for pre-Ole transfer dealings, but you can't say that he was entirely to blame. He largely got LVG the players he asked for, they just turned out to be crap. The first year of Mourinho's term here, he also got the players Mou wanted. Because we don't have a DoF, the manager has had a massive influence in who Ed targets. Recruitment itself, therefore, falls in large part at the manager's feet. The getting fleeced, dithering, leak-tastic nature of our past transfer dealings, though is entirely on Ed.
Possibly it is to do with the type of players we are targeting under Ole - ie specifically players who “really want to come to us. Must be easier to sign those guys, right?
Sancho will be the test, if it’s true he wants to come. It’s a big deal and we need to get it done.
I always blamed Ed for not getting us enough top signings to catch up with our rivals and I think that’s where the dithering is a problem.
We are terrible at transfers. We pay well over the odds usually, take too long, leave it too late and miss out thus not being equipped for the next season and end up with far too much deadwood staying here too long. All of that is down to Ed and that’s only some of the issue.
To be fair, we've broken the british transfer record multiple times before Ed was even a young accountant making his way in the world.
He's a bit shite, but I do believe his hands are tied. He's not the one making the shots in regards to what should and shouldn't be spent
Its difficult to defend anyone at United who deal with transfers.
They seem to take forever and the same issues arise every window.
I have no idea who is in charge but there is massive room for improvement.
They seem to take forever and the same issues arise every window.
I have no idea who is in charge but there is massive room for improvement.
I also think that the to-ing and fro-ing from Woody to the Glazers is what holds everything up. All Woody is is the middle man. Its the Glazers that say yes/no on any transfers, and thats why we are so shit at it.
Ed hasn't been near transfers in years...its Matt Judge.
If you believe every little rumour that goes on about United then you'd have a point, majority of it is utter rubbish though. It's baseless speculation and little else.