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Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Panic buying bale and having him spend most of the season in the injury room is exactly what we'd need.
I'd have took him in a heartbeat a few years ago, but now, not so much...
If I were a footballer I'd be waving and imaginary red card.
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Im one of the few who believes this will get done in the end. The reason being, I believe Utd know they can stump up what Dortmund want. But they are chancing it to get it cheaper knowing the last resort will get him.
Exactly, we'd essentially be banking on him staying healthy somehow and having his drive/fire reignited by being back home and nothing over the last 2-3 seasons has shown that that kind of drive is even in him anymore at 31. I was hoping we'd sign him years ago but not since last year since he's become a non-factor, injury prone and a pariah in Madrid. Mourinho with Spurs would've been all over him if he wasn't so radioactive at the moment, speaks volumes that the only genuine interest in him this last year has been from China
Would rather roll the dice on loaning a Perisic or someone similar if we really can't get Sancho in.
Yeah, that is a difference. Fighting for 4th spot trophy should not be our goal, isn't it? And Bruno, Martial and Rashford can't play 60 games in season
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You did call it early. I was certainly leaning the same way but not 100% sure. Were you being completely serious or just ever so slightly winding people up?
On what basis do you know United can justify that fee? Is it because of just about every reputable source saying we can't pay it and have no interest to? Is it the fact that we've never spent so much on a single player? That's not even addressing how easy an excuse they have in covid.
There is not a single source who has said we can’t pay it. But suddenly every reputable one has said it?
I’m not giving up hope yet but I along with millions of others will be gutted if we don’t sign this guy along with another player to be honest.
If the difference is 10 million with a club the size of United, there is no reason we shouldn’t be dropping cash.
I’m not for dropping games early on. I’m tired of playing catch up all season to try and make Champions League. Not to mention Ole would be under the microscope even mite than he already is.
Sell Lindgard, romero and Smalling.
Pick up Sancho and maybe one more.
If the difference is 10 million with a club the size of United, there is no reason we shouldn’t be dropping cash.
I’m not for dropping games early on. I’m tired of playing catch up all season to try and make Champions League. Not to mention Ole would be under the microscope even mite than he already is.
Sell Lindgard, romero and Smalling.
Pick up Sancho and maybe one more.
The problem is, the league is becoming a lot more competitive now, it's not just the usual top 4 clubs, there is easily top 6 or 8 i'd say.
It can also be unpredictable, who'd have guessed Leicesters wonder season a few years ago? I'd say Liverpool, City and Chelsea are nailed on for top 4, so that leaves us, Arsenal and Spurs to fight it out for the 4th spot. Whats saying Everton doesn't have a great season? Leicester might be up there again, Wolves too... Yes it's all hypothetical, but saying we're nailed on for top 4, thats just a little bit too early to say. We could literally be a couple of injuries away from a top 6 fight. I hope to god thats not the case though.
Bale also hasn’t trained at elite match level for ages, and his mental fitness will be even worse.
Even if he was fully motivated, and managed to avoid injuries, I think it would take him quite a while to get back up to speed to compete at top level of Premier League.
And I’m also fearful that if the going gets tough, he has no emotional skin in the game, he will just down tools and phone it in.
Im not sure how OGS can determine if Bale is professional enough to genuinely give it his all. It’s a massive risk and would cost a lot of money if the gamble fails.
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Watch from 0.38. That's United's mouthpiece. There were some other reports from the typical British journos about us not being willing to pay their price but I cba looking for them right now, gotta get ready for work.
I agree with everything you've put there
My guess is that Ole would be banking on Bale proving a point to Real that he's still got it and can still deliver at the top level, that and being back in the Premier League will spur him on to a new level. The problem is, as has been said, his injury record isn't great, and i'd say the PL is probably a little more physical than La Liga. Yes Bale has done it in the PL before, but i really don't know if his body can handle it anymore.
Would it be worth a punt? Personally i'd say no
You said we "can't pay the price". That's different to not willing to pay the price. Just like we weren't willing to pay £80m for Maguire and £50m for AWB.
what an absolute mess, 2 seasons in a row now where we are likely going into yet another season handicapped down the right hand side of our attack because of this dead end looking tunnel vision persuit of sancho for our right wing and the scary thing is we will probably waste another summer next year going down this hopeless route yet again.
Not willing to pay is different from can't afford to pay.
Basically we CAN afford it, but we don't want to pay it all in one go, which is understandable really. We want to pay it in bits, with addons that give us more flexibility, but Dortmund want it all in one, or in guaranteed installments from all accounts.
We bought a back up CAM for 40m and potentially buying an alternative LB for 25-30m. Surely we have cash to buy our highest priority RW?
Can't even remember the last time we signed a proper RW
Valencia I think?
"They don't feel they're in a position to do that" he then goes on to justify why, covid etc. It's very clear at this point we are not paying what they want.
These journos just don't seem to be in the know as much as they make out to be. He claims at the start he didn't see a situation that utd will write a 100 million cheque for a player, yet ends with the deal isn't dead. You have to wonder how much is really just guess work and actual info. But none the less I'll follow Fabrizio
That's all well and good but Dortmund will continue to tell us where we can put our add-ons.
BVB is a feeder club that relies on Bayern to stay afloat. Pathetic club
What I took from the 'deal isn't dead' is that United are still pursuing him, hoping Dortmund will reduce their price, but as he also mentioned, that's looking very unlikely now and they are looking at alternatives
Pretty much,as much I've rated him quite highly for years and always felt his contributions to Reals European dominance is extremely underrated, it'd be a terribly shortsighted move for United in 2020 with more potential of having it backfire spectacularly than being a success I'm afraid
I feel like I’ve said this since I was a kid but we need a RW desperately even more now than ever. If we had TAA we maybe could get away with it but AWB is not great at going forward and it hinders us so much that right side.
And you’re still talking shite.
We've been after Sancho for over 18 months, and the finances and logistics of acquiring him will have taken up many many hours in our boardroom. We know his price range, how BVB will negotiate and devised a negotiation strategy around that. OGS and Woodward briefed in April that covid19 financial impact might present an opportunity for us and its clear that Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Madrid and Barcelona have worse financial problems than us, allowing us to have a free run at our transfer targets.
But that opportunity only exists after extensive and tough negotiations, luring selling clubs into blinking that we will walk away from a deal if the price isn't right. For this strategy to work, we have to be prepared for this to go to the wire.
There have been so many briefings from the club that we will invest on the right side of attack, and that we have made progress on many aspects of the Sancho deal. With all that has gone before and all this noise, I'm convinced that we are now thick in the negotiation 'fog of war'.
SAF made absolute denials just weeks before selling Ronaldo to Madrid, which I'm sure was part of our selling strategy which ended up with Madrid having to smash the world transfer record to get their man. Same has been true of so many managers and players before they were sold. On that basis, I don't give much weight to any statements coming out of BVB until this transfer window is over. Im actually of the total opposite opinion: BVB desperately want to sell Sancho this window, its central to their business plan, and much like SAF during Ronaldo's transfer, every message they send out is their part of the dance.
But that opportunity only exists after extensive and tough negotiations, luring selling clubs into blinking that we will walk away from a deal if the price isn't right. For this strategy to work, we have to be prepared for this to go to the wire.
There have been so many briefings from the club that we will invest on the right side of attack, and that we have made progress on many aspects of the Sancho deal. With all that has gone before and all this noise, I'm convinced that we are now thick in the negotiation 'fog of war'.
SAF made absolute denials just weeks before selling Ronaldo to Madrid, which I'm sure was part of our selling strategy which ended up with Madrid having to smash the world transfer record to get their man. Same has been true of so many managers and players before they were sold. On that basis, I don't give much weight to any statements coming out of BVB until this transfer window is over. Im actually of the total opposite opinion: BVB desperately want to sell Sancho this window, its central to their business plan, and much like SAF during Ronaldo's transfer, every message they send out is their part of the dance.
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