Shaw has 4 in 33 and Reguilon has 8 in 38How many assist he has compared to Shaw in how much playing time?
Shaw has 4 in 33 and Reguilon has 8 in 38How many assist he has compared to Shaw in how much playing time?
Didn’t Valencia get in about 3 years ago?You have to look at who he is feeding. De Jong and Co, despite knocking us out, aren't quite as good as our forward line are they?
He was named best left back in La liga last season. When was the last time we had a fullback in the PL best 11?
Back in training now.Think we will probably get something official today. Is he injured or what from the Spain match?
Thats not true. There are few actual attacking fullbacks in this list. Plus our FB are forever getting forward, they arent even that defensiveExactly. City, Liverpool, Bayern, Barca, Juve, Dortmund etc all have at least one flying fullback.
The game has moved on and fullbacks are almost your new wingers and we didn't get the memo it seems.
Salah n Mane don't put the crosses in for Liverpool. They leave that to the fullbacks mainly.
I'd play a front 2, and stick VdB in a midfield 3.Would a 3-4-3 akin to what Arsenal fielded be completely out of the question?
Rashford--Martial--Greenwood
-----------Bruno---Pogba
Reguilon-------------Williams/James/Laird(?)
------Shaw--Maguire--AWB
If he had 25 assists a season, do you think we'd get him for 25m? At this price point, it's all about potential.We also don’t need another fullback who is average in attack imo. If we bring someone he should be top attacking fullback, this guy has 2 more assists than Shaw in +500 minutes played.
There is no way, well I'd like to think there isn't, that AWB plays at CB.Would a 3-4-3 akin to what Arsenal fielded be completely out of the question?
Rashford--Martial--Greenwood
-----------Bruno---Pogba
Reguilon-------------Williams/James/Laird(?)
------Shaw--Maguire--AWB
Forever getting forward and doing nothing. That's kind of the point i was making mate.Thats not true. There are few actual attacking fullbacks in this list. Plus our FB are forever getting forward, they arent even that defensive
It's not CB in the traditional sense though. I don't want to keep referencing Arsenal but if you watched that game then you would have seen how Tierney played the role. He was proactive, energetic and able to get forward. He wasn't just lumping headers back down field from goal kicks, he was contributing to the play in a way AWB as a RB often struggles to do.There is no way, well I'd like to think there isn't, that AWB plays at CB.
But its not nothing? He is a vital reason why we can get forward down the left?Forever getting forward and doing nothing. That's kind of the point i was making mate.
Of course not, but why do we bother to buy an average talent like Reguilon seems to be when we have an almost 4 years younger imo same level of talent in Brandon? And i get it what you are saying re Dani Alves, probably Evra has even less, but by that same metric we already have the same level of full backs in Shaw and Williams who just finished his first season of senior football.If he had 25 assists a season, do you think we'd get him for 25m? At this price point, it's all about potential.
EDIT: Just checked Dani Alves' stats with Barcelona. He's arguably the best attacking FB of this era. He had 100 assists in about 400 games. So it's about 10 in every 40 games. It just shows that using number of assists to judge a FB contribution to attack isn't accurate.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/dani-a...verein=131&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=
I meant the assists, Shaw has 3 I think while Reguilon has 5 assists, and one is supposedly awful in his attacking game while this guy will be a breath of fresh air? I personally am not convinced that Reguilon is worth the trouble.Shaw has 4 in 33 and Reguilon has 8 in 38
Assist are not the correct parameter to judge fullback i guess. Sure it helps if they have large number of assist but anyone who has watched us with/without Shaw will agree that our offensive game suffers in absence of Shaw.I meant the assists, Shaw has 3 I think while Reguilon has 5 assists, and one is supposedly awful in his attacking game while this guy will be a breath of fresh air? I personally am not convinced that Reguilon is worth the trouble.
25M for a player that will improve the squad? yeah he's worth the hassleI meant the assists, Shaw has 3 I think while Reguilon has 5 assists, and one is supposedly awful in his attacking game while this guy will be a breath of fresh air? I personally am not convinced that Reguilon is worth the trouble.
Had the same amount of goal contributions last season than Shaw has had the last 6 yearsHow many assist he has compared to Shaw in how much playing time?
assists are a very blunt tool. What about the assist to the assist?Had the same amount of goal contributions last season than Shaw has had the last 6 years
He's been rated highly on Spain and Spanish fans seem to think he'd have Shaw on the bench in short order
Yeah I am not expecting Trent or Robertson like numbers from this guy,just someone who can offer more in the final third than Shaw and put in some decent crosses which he canHad the same amount of goal contributions last season than Shaw has had the last 6 years
He's been rated highly on Spain and Spanish fans seem to think he'd have Shaw on the bench in short order
To be fair, this has been the problem with most of our fullbacks for the last xxx years. And the team/coaches/managers seem unable to integrate the fullbacks in the buildup and in the attacking third. Could just look at Bayern, Liverpool and City and you will have 3 different alternatives to how they can operate. Then again, one would actually need fullbacks that can control the ball, pass and cross, which we do not have. Reguilon is better on the ball than our current fullbacks, but he is not a worldbeater either. Good at timing runs though.People wanting Trent or Robertson numbers are crazy. It’s only them two who are pulling those assists. Just look at Evra he didn’t get anywhere near those numbers yet I’d take him ahead of Robertson all day. We need a fullback, who can defend, control the ball, pass the ball when under pressure and a cross that beats the first man. The problem with AWB is teams block everyone else and let him have the ball on purpose. He has no clue what to do.
Because the opinions of spanish fans is all that matters when comparing Reguilon to Shaw and not those who've watched Shaw and are confident in him.Had the same amount of goal contributions last season than Shaw has had the last 6 years
He's been rated highly on Spain and Spanish football fans seem to think he'd have Shaw on the bench in short order but I'll the top reds poo poo the idea just because he's a 'shiny object' from abroad like they did with Bruno
We will likely play that line up often if we sign Regulion but AWB will play a wingback, not the CB. It is actually a great line up, could be our strongest.Would a 3-4-3 akin to what Arsenal fielded be completely out of the question?
Rashford--Martial--Greenwood
-----------Bruno---Pogba
Reguilon-------------Williams/James/Laird(?)
------Shaw--Maguire--AWB
Aye. The way they play means their wingbacks are given more opportunities to create than any other player on the pitch. It also means their centre forward doesn't score an awful lot (don't believe he even made the top 20 in the PL last aeason), while their midfielders are valued more for their work rate than their ability on the ball. If we take the 2018/19 season as an example, a season where Pogba was fit for the majority of the year and managed to pick up 9 assists, no Liverpool midfielder makes it into the top 50. In fact, rather ironically, Shaw got more assists than any midfielder of theirs.People wanting Trent or Robertson numbers are crazy. It’s only them two who are pulling those assists. Just look at Evra he didn’t get anywhere near those numbers yet I’d take him ahead of Robertson all day. We need a fullback, who can defend, control the ball, pass the ball when under pressure and a cross that beats the first man. The problem with AWB is teams block everyone else and let him have the ball on purpose. He has no clue what to do.
Quoting myself here but dayum just the thought of the kind of creativity we can have with Bruno, Pogba, VDB and Regulion in our midfield...dayum dayum dayum.We will likely play that line up often if we sign Regulion but AWB will play a wingback, not the CB. It is actually a great line up, could be our strongest.
Shaw Maguire Lindeloff
Regulion Pogba VDB AWB
Bruno
Martial Greenwood (or Rashford)
This is 3-4-1-2 but you can play 3-5-2 with Bruno in less of an advanced role but you get the point.
We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.25M for a player that will improve the squad? yeah he's worth the hassle
Relax mate it is still early in the day. Also when the Spanish say in a matter of hours, they usually mean in a matter of days. Their interpretation of this is different from the BritishLast night I looked this was going to be a matter of hours till we get him?
Have we hit a "unlikely turn" as the Candena Ser guy mentioned?
Disagree. Seeing how impotent we looked with a right-footed left back towards the end of last season, having a solid back-up to Shaw would be a big help. Especially with his injury history.We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.
Who can we feasibly buy that is much better than Shaw? there isn't a great depth of left backs out there.We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.
Yeah hence the 48 hours we hear constantly from foreign journos. It'll be done ready for Saturday's game barring medical or contract issues.Relax mate it is still early in the day. Also when the Spanish say in a matter of hours, they usually mean in a matter of days. Their interpretation of this is different from the British
We have no one in our team who can put in a good cross, Reguilon can. He will be a good option for matches when we play 3-5-2 with Shaw as a CB as well, and also for when Shaw eventually gets injured. Think it's a really smart buy if it goes through. Williams is not good enough to play left back for the first team at the moment.We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.
You cannot look a gift horse in the mouth, and sometimes, fate puts a player available that you hadn't even considered as priority, but you just have to take advantage of the opportunity.We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.
He would improve the first 11. Did you see how many times teams would just pack the middle and let us pass it out to our full-backs and thereby stifle all of our creativity.We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.
Thanks for posting the video. That bodes well for the attacking aspect of his game. I rate Shaw as a LB (apart from the end product) but fret when he's injured. I'd love this guy as a backup or more attacking option to alternate for matches against easier opposition.He once scored a hat-trick and a heavily deflected free-kick in a 5-3 win in Segunda B whilst on loan at Logrones...
Interestingly wearing no.11 and playing LW by the looks of things, which seems to suggest he should be a lot more adept at attacking than Luke Shaw is. I appreciate Shaw's defensive abilities and he does cause a nuisance going forward, but sometimes it's a nuisance for our attack by getting in the way of the LF or putting in a useless cross after standing on the ball for 5 seconds. Would definitely welcome a more adept attacking LB option, and if can get himself fit on a regular basis then Shaw he would still be a great option for tougher fixtures and an alternative at LCB.
James has to be backup for LW.I'd play a front 2, and stick VdB in a midfield 3.
Our starting 11 is good, not perfect but good. That quality will mean nothing without depth at fullback and the attack. All players play better when they're fresh. Our current situation will lead to Shaw getting injured quickly, Martial pulling a muscle quickly and Rashford possibly getting more serious back injuries. All can be avoided/mitigated with standard depth, which is what we did with VdB in midfield to spell Pogba and Bruno. Quality backup that will actually be used to both rotate and compete with the starters.We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.