Shaw has 4 in 33 and Reguilon has 8 in 38
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Think we will probably get something official today. Is he injured or what from the Spain match?
Didn’t Valencia get in about 3 years ago?
Back in training now.
Thats not true. There are few actual attacking fullbacks in this list. Plus our FB are forever getting forward, they arent even that defensive
Hopefully we get this done. Having Shaw/Reguilon competing for the LB slot will really keep them both sharp, and no drop off in quality if one of them does get injured.
Williams can cover both LB/RB just in case.
Williams can cover both LB/RB just in case.
Would a 3-4-3 akin to what Arsenal fielded be completely out of the question?
Rashford--Martial--Greenwood
-----------Bruno---Pogba
Reguilon-------------Williams/James/Laird(?)
------Shaw--Maguire--AWB
Rashford--Martial--Greenwood
-----------Bruno---Pogba
Reguilon-------------Williams/James/Laird(?)
------Shaw--Maguire--AWB
I'd play a front 2, and stick VdB in a midfield 3.
If he had 25 assists a season, do you think we'd get him for 25m? At this price point, it's all about potential.
EDIT: Just checked Dani Alves' stats with Barcelona. He's arguably the best attacking FB of this era. He had 100 assists in about 400 games. So it's about 10 in every 40 games. It just shows that using number of assists to judge a FB contribution to attack isn't accurate.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/dani-a...verein=131&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=
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There is no way, well I'd like to think there isn't, that AWB plays at CB.
Forever getting forward and doing nothing. That's kind of the point i was making mate.
It's not CB in the traditional sense though. I don't want to keep referencing Arsenal but if you watched that game then you would have seen how Tierney played the role. He was proactive, energetic and able to get forward. He wasn't just lumping headers back down field from goal kicks, he was contributing to the play in a way AWB as a RB often struggles to do.
But its not nothing? He is a vital reason why we can get forward down the left?
You dont have to be a winger flying in cross after cross to not be a defensive fb
Of course not, but why do we bother to buy an average talent like Reguilon seems to be when we have an almost 4 years younger imo same level of talent in Brandon? And i get it what you are saying re Dani Alves, probably Evra has even less, but by that same metric we already have the same level of full backs in Shaw and Williams who just finished his first season of senior football.
I meant the assists, Shaw has 3 I think while Reguilon has 5 assists, and one is supposedly awful in his attacking game while this guy will be a breath of fresh air? I personally am not convinced that Reguilon is worth the trouble.
Assist are not the correct parameter to judge fullback i guess. Sure it helps if they have large number of assist but anyone who has watched us with/without Shaw will agree that our offensive game suffers in absence of Shaw.
Next season fixture list is quite gruesome and with Shaw injury record, LB is absolute must this year. If we dont get Sancho, then i would like us to get another RWB and sell Dalot (which we are trying).
25M for a player that will improve the squad? yeah he's worth the hassle
Had the same amount of goal contributions last season than Shaw has had the last 6 years
He's been rated highly on Spain and Spanish football fans seem to think he'd have Shaw on the bench in short order but I'll the top reds poo poo the idea just because he's a 'shiny object' from abroad like they did with Bruno
assists are a very blunt tool. What about the assist to the assist?
It’s not the ideal way to judge a fullback, attacking or otherwise.
Yeah I am not expecting Trent or Robertson like numbers from this guy,just someone who can offer more in the final third than Shaw and put in some decent crosses which he can
People wanting Trent or Robertson numbers are crazy. It’s only them two who are pulling those assists. Just look at Evra he didn’t get anywhere near those numbers yet I’d take him ahead of Robertson all day. We need a fullback, who can defend, control the ball, pass the ball when under pressure and a cross that beats the first man. The problem with AWB is teams block everyone else and let him have the ball on purpose. He has no clue what to do.
To be fair, this has been the problem with most of our fullbacks for the last xxx years. And the team/coaches/managers seem unable to integrate the fullbacks in the buildup and in the attacking third. Could just look at Bayern, Liverpool and City and you will have 3 different alternatives to how they can operate. Then again, one would actually need fullbacks that can control the ball, pass and cross, which we do not have. Reguilon is better on the ball than our current fullbacks, but he is not a worldbeater either. Good at timing runs though.
Because the opinions of spanish fans is all that matters when comparing Reguilon to Shaw and not those who've watched Shaw and are confident in him.Had the same amount of goal contributions last season than Shaw has had the last 6 years
He's been rated highly on Spain and Spanish football fans seem to think he'd have Shaw on the bench in short order but I'll the top reds poo poo the idea just because he's a 'shiny object' from abroad like they did with Bruno
Him being a new "toy" is what inciting all these over the top statements from Caftards such as him being better than Shaw despite the majority of this place having only known him for about 2 months or so.
People resort to over hyping him especially his attacking play to justify their inner muppets. Truth of the matter he isn't half as good as he's being hyped by over exited muppet. I'd personally want him here but I'm not expecting him to be some upgrade on Shaw but rather because I feel we can't solely rely on Shaw due to his fitness issues.
We will likely play that line up often if we sign Regulion but AWB will play a wingback, not the CB. It is actually a great line up, could be our strongest.
Shaw Maguire Lindeloff
Regulion Pogba VDB AWB
Bruno
Martial Greenwood (or Rashford)
This is 3-4-1-2 but you can play 3-5-2 with Bruno in less of an advanced role but you get the point.
Aye. The way they play means their wingbacks are given more opportunities to create than any other player on the pitch. It also means their centre forward doesn't score an awful lot (don't believe he even made the top 20 in the PL last aeason), while their midfielders are valued more for their work rate than their ability on the ball. If we take the 2018/19 season as an example, a season where Pogba was fit for the majority of the year and managed to pick up 9 assists, no Liverpool midfielder makes it into the top 50. In fact, rather ironically, Shaw got more assists than any midfielder of theirs.
There's more than one way to play the game. The strengths and weakness' of each system needs to be taken into account when making these comparisons.
Quoting myself here but dayum just the thought of the kind of creativity we can have with Bruno, Pogba, VDB and Regulion in our midfield...dayum dayum dayum.
And our defense stays solid here. 3 at the back along with AWB at right wingback.
Last night I looked this was going to be a matter of hours till we get him?
Have we hit a "unlikely turn" as the Candena Ser guy mentioned?
Have we hit a "unlikely turn" as the Candena Ser guy mentioned?
We need to improve the starting 11 first, improving the squad when we have no RW, no reliable partner for Maguire and only past his best Matic as a CDM, buying Reguilon when we have Williams will matter feck all to how we fare this season.25M for a player that will improve the squad? yeah he's worth the hassle
Relax mate it is still early in the day. Also when the Spanish say in a matter of hours, they usually mean in a matter of days. Their interpretation of this is different from the British
Disagree. Seeing how impotent we looked with a right-footed left back towards the end of last season, having a solid back-up to Shaw would be a big help. Especially with his injury history.
Is it the most pressing issue? Perhaps not. But it is still a good improvement to the squad at a reasonable price, and it doesn't mean we won't get a RW or CDM as well.
He once scored a hat-trick and a heavily deflected free-kick in a 5-3 win in Segunda B whilst on loan at Logrones...
Interestingly wearing no.11 and playing LW by the looks of things, which seems to suggest he should be a lot more adept at attacking than Luke Shaw is. I appreciate Shaw's defensive abilities and he does cause a nuisance going forward, but sometimes it's a nuisance for our attack by getting in the way of the LF or putting in a useless cross after standing on the ball for 5 seconds. Would definitely welcome a more adept attacking LB option, and if can get himself fit on a regular basis then Shaw he would still be a great option for tougher fixtures and an alternative at LCB.
Interestingly wearing no.11 and playing LW by the looks of things, which seems to suggest he should be a lot more adept at attacking than Luke Shaw is. I appreciate Shaw's defensive abilities and he does cause a nuisance going forward, but sometimes it's a nuisance for our attack by getting in the way of the LF or putting in a useless cross after standing on the ball for 5 seconds. Would definitely welcome a more adept attacking LB option, and if can get himself fit on a regular basis then Shaw he would still be a great option for tougher fixtures and an alternative at LCB.
Who can we feasibly buy that is much better than Shaw? there isn't a great depth of left backs out there.
Shaw on his day is a great LB and is really important to our play, hence why we fell off so much last season when he got injured.
Williams isn't in the same level as Shaw with the ball. Reguilon will help Shaw be able to rest/rotate more often, and if he gets injured the quality doesn't drop. That helps the team way more.
Yeah hence the 48 hours we hear constantly from foreign journos. It'll be done ready for Saturday's game barring medical or contract issues.
We have no one in our team who can put in a good cross, Reguilon can. He will be a good option for matches when we play 3-5-2 with Shaw as a CB as well, and also for when Shaw eventually gets injured. Think it's a really smart buy if it goes through. Williams is not good enough to play left back for the first team at the moment.
You cannot look a gift horse in the mouth, and sometimes, fate puts a player available that you hadn't even considered as priority, but you just have to take advantage of the opportunity.
To have both Shaw and Reguilon will be a massive thumbs up.
He would improve the first 11. Did you see how many times teams would just pack the middle and let us pass it out to our full-backs and thereby stifle all of our creativity.
With Rashford always central, he would just own that side with his pace and dribbling. Defensively a suspect though.
Thanks for posting the video. That bodes well for the attacking aspect of his game. I rate Shaw as a LB (apart from the end product) but fret when he's injured. I'd love this guy as a backup or more attacking option to alternate for matches against easier opposition.
James has to be backup for LW.
Other than that, nice
Our starting 11 is good, not perfect but good. That quality will mean nothing without depth at fullback and the attack. All players play better when they're fresh. Our current situation will lead to Shaw getting injured quickly, Martial pulling a muscle quickly and Rashford possibly getting more serious back injuries. All can be avoided/mitigated with standard depth, which is what we did with VdB in midfield to spell Pogba and Bruno. Quality backup that will actually be used to both rotate and compete with the starters.
Reguilon can come in and become a starter here because of a better fitness record and more attacking talent than Shaw. Shaw might even be moved to CB in that scenario, who knows. Think he'd do alright there tbh.
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