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Where has this idea come from that Williams is a right back? Every game I watched him in at youth level he was a marauding left back!
Depends on when you watched him at the youth level. He was a right back, but the team shifted him to left back when it became clear that Laird was the superior player on the right. So both sides are right in a way - he largely came up through the ranks as a RB, but as you noted he hasn't played on the right in a little while. That doesn't mean he suddenly lost his ability to cover the right flank as AWB backup, in case Sergio is brought in.
 

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Because when some people find out that he's right footed, they like to make it up that he's an RB. But he's not.
In the modern games right footed fullbacks should be right backs. The fullback needs to overlap and provide width, he can't do that if he has to cut back in on his stronger foot.
Imagine Marcelo and Carvajal swapping flanks, it'd be terrible.
 

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I think Romero should have enough experience of the transfer games by now to know this is just Madrid using United to invite a bid from another club.

This is why I can’t consider him as reliable as others
 

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Depends on when you watched him at the youth level. He was a right back, but the team shifted him to left back when it became clear that Laird was the superior player on the right. So both sides are right in a way - he largely came up through the ranks as a RB, but as you noted he hasn't played on the right in a little while. That doesn't mean he suddenly lost his ability to cover the right flank as AWB backup, in case Sergio is brought in.
Using logic, shouldn’t that make Laird the backup RB? By all accounts, he’s the better player.
 

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I think Romero should have enough experience of the transfer games by now to know this is just Madrid using United to invite a bid from another club.

This is why I can’t consider him as reliable as others
What are you basing this on then?
 

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Does the fact Madrid put Reguilon in the market means Marcelo will be first choice for them ? I was thinking that instead of going for Reguillon, United should go for Marcelo actually
 

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In the modern games right footed fullbacks should be right backs. The fullback needs to overlap and provide width, he can't do that if he has to cut back in on his stronger foot.
Imagine Marcelo and Carvajal swapping flanks, it'd be terrible.
I think we should try him out there for an extended period of time because he could be very good there and offer something vastly different than AWB. However, throughout his academy years and 19/20, he played as a left back almost every time if I'm not wrong. So he's definitely not a right back as of now.
 

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What are you basing this on then?
Common sense. It’s all you need. It’s obvious.

Not one source close to United is touching it for a start.

Quote me later if you want, trust me, the player will move, but not to United
 

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I'm speculating but it feels like we're only taking him because its convenient.

I don't get the impression we've actively targeted him, and if the phone didn't ring on our end, I wonder if we would have chased him.
 

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Does the fact Madrid put Reguilon in the market means Marcelo will be first choice for them ? I was thinking that instead of going for Reguillon, United should go for Marcelo actually
Wasn't it Ferland Mendy who pushed Reguilon out of the team?
 

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I'm speculating but it feels like we're only taking him because its convenient.

I don't get the impression we've actively targeted him, and if the phone didn't ring on our end, I wonder if we would have chased him.
It’s probably one of those where he’s on the list of LB targets but it wasn’t a priority this summer. Real offered him up, he’s good so we probably thought “ok let’s do it now”. If anything I prefer that scenario because that means we DO have money readily available for the right players at a whim.
 

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Depends on when you watched him at the youth level. He was a right back, but the team shifted him to left back when it became clear that Laird was the superior player on the right. So both sides are right in a way - he largely came up through the ranks as a RB, but as you noted he hasn't played on the right in a little while. That doesn't mean he suddenly lost his ability to cover the right flank as AWB backup, in case Sergio is brought in.
Both sides aren’t right because that isn’t what happened. Saying he largely came through as a RB is just categorically wrong, as he didn’t.
 

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Common sense. It’s all you need. It’s obvious.

Not one source close to United is touching it for a start.

Quote me later if you want, trust me, the player will move, but not to United
I will trust a well trusted journo over a pessimistic hunch. We’ll see.
 

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I keep hearing this, what does it mean?
The selling club (us) must inform Real if we plan to sell him and at what price. (Assuming there is an offer on the table).
If they decide to match the offer, then they can sign him themselves.
 

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Common sense. It’s all you need. It’s obvious.

Not one source close to United is touching it for a start.

Quote me later if you want, trust me, the player will move, but not to United
United "sources" never get there first. They only ever report once it's pretty much 100% nailed on.

Just like Van Der Beek, nothing was said until the dutch reporter popped up and amazingly they all had the inside story from that point.

United are clearly going about their work quietly on our side, it's the foreign reporters who are getting leaks from the selling side.
 

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Honestly tired of the bullshit the media makes up.

Seems like every player we're in for its spurs who come in at the end. :rolleyes:

Reguillon is also the last player a manager like mourinho would sign.
Levy trying to.give the impression that he s not a miser :)
 

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United "sources" never get there first. They only ever report once it's pretty much 100% nailed on.

Just like Van Der Beek, nothing was said until the dutch reporter popped up and amazingly they all had the inside story from that point.

United are clearly going about their work quietly on our side, it's the foreign reporters who are getting leaks from the selling side.
Yeah you only need to look at the deals for Bailly, Martial, Bruno to see proof of that in the last five years
 

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Does the fact Madrid put Reguilon in the market means Marcelo will be first choice for them ? I was thinking that instead of going for Reguillon, United should go for Marcelo actually
They spent quite a bit on France's starting LB, Ferland Mendy, just last summer and he's been their first choice since last season.

He had a quality debut season and helped turn what was one of the weakest backlines in recent Real history the season prior into a title winning one so he won't be getting dropped by Zidane anytime soon.

Marcelo goes without saying is a club legend and a Zidane favorite so he'll be in the picture until he has little left. Hence why they're shopping Reguilon who wants first team action instead of being stuck on the bench after proving himself with Sevilla.

If Marcelo ever did want to leave, he'd likely either go back to Brazil or try to join up with his mate Ronaldo in Turin as it's been rumored he's had interest in recently.
 

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The selling club (us) must inform Real if we plan to sell him and at what price. (Assuming there is an offer on the table).
If they decide to match the offer, then they can sign him themselves.
I see. Thanks for the explanation. Well we can give them that.
 

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Where has this idea come from that Williams is a right back? Every game I watched him in at youth level he was a marauding left back!
Williams played LB at youth level because United had no fit left-footed players for that position.

Make-do for U-23s doesn't cut it when one aspires to win PL.
 

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Saha and Tevez weren't panic buys. Saha especially we scouted for years before we signed him
Of course not, but why do we bother to buy an average talent like Reguilon seems to be when we have an almost 4 years younger imo same level of talent in Brandon? And i get it what you are saying re Dani Alves, probably Evra has even less, but by that same metric we already have the same level of full backs in Shaw and Williams who just finished his first season of senior football.
What a load of rubbish. There's absolutely nothing to suggest Brandon Williams is anywhere near the talent level of Reguilon. We were significantly poorer going forward and defensively when Shaw got injured - Williams wasn't an adequate replacement by any means.

Watched Reguilon play for Spain and he was one of the best players on a pitch full of top-class players. Everything indicates that Williams' ceiling is a player who will at best be our back up right-back (even that seems unlikely given AWB and Laird are superior) whereas Reguilon was voted the best left-back in La Liga last season and Madrid want a buy-back clause inserted in his contract. Different level altogether.

That's not to say Reguilon is one of the top 5 LB's in the world or is the best option out there. He's probably a level below that but that level is still miles ahead of Brandon Williams if we aren't being completely deluded right here.
 

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I haven't followed this at all, so.. one question.. why are Real willing to let this guy go?
Same reason they got rid of Hakimi despite him looking like one of the best young right backs. They have quality fullbacks already both starting and depth so just don't need him and probably won't bother disrupting the team by bringing him in. They sell a lot of the players they loan out if they're happy with their own options, regardless of who the players are.
 

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Where has this idea come from that Williams is a right back? Every game I watched him in at youth level he was a marauding left back!
Hes right footed, was on the left for youth teams because Laird was right back. Williams will be more natural on right.
 

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If Madrid want their buy back so bad, why not just lean the guy then. Expecting us to develop their player so they can come and take him 2 years later whether they need him or not(Morata) is ridiculous. Under no circumstances should be accept that buy back option. It's a lose lose for us. He either ends up crap and Madrid got some money off him while we wasted money on him or he turns out a top player and Madrid come to take him back and reap our reward.

People saying Madrid have Marcelo and Mendy for several years therefore they wouldn't come to reclaim him in case of a buy back, they'd still come after him if he turns into a top player so they can sell him for a profit like they did to Juventus with Morata.
 

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Come on, what it this. Shaw is not an extremely good footballer. He is not excellent and it will not prove it 100% injuries permitting, that’s your opinion - I’d say it’s highly unlikely. He’s been here for many years and he’s never cemented the left back-position, far too many injuries and lack of form, missing that ruthlessness after his big injury all those years ago. Shaw is a very good defender when focused, mediocre when going forward and far, far behind the best in the world - aka the extremely good and excellent ones.
Totally disagree apart from his injury record and patchy form. He is very talented and was perhaps our best player in the run in prior to injury, excelling in attack. The left side died once he got injured. He is the best fullback at our club by a mile and he needs support not replacing per se. What you say about his mindset after his horror break might also be true, but he seems over that and seems mentally ready and is performing as such. And personally I only care about the present and not the past. His 2017/18 form does not matter to me. He is 25 years old and looks ready to be a top top player... he has the tools. I would still make a signing though.

But we are allowed to disagree. Many think he is average, a few think he is useless, and even less think he is presently very good (injuries permitting and dependent on form). I am in the latter camp.
 
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Using logic, shouldn’t that make Laird the backup RB? By all accounts, he’s the better player.
The club seems to be grooming Laird for that role, but as of now Williams has gotten extended first team football and a new deal, while Laird has yet to make the jump up to the senior team. Using logic, therefore, Williams is currently able to backup either side of the fullback position, whereas Laird will (fingers crossed) hopefully play the role Williams did last year and push AWB for playing time.
 
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