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Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)
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Other big clubs like Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern, Juventus may have some period of bad time but never like the slump we have now. Its been 8 years since SAF retired.
Our club has been so badly mismanaged by Glazer and Ed. These feckers have been very lucky with their investment during SAF time. Without SAF, I don't think they can be successful with thier heavy debts leveraged buyout.
The last 8 years show that they know nothing about running a football club. They strike a lottery with SAF.
Our club has been so badly mismanaged by Glazer and Ed. These feckers have been very lucky with their investment during SAF time. Without SAF, I don't think they can be successful with thier heavy debts leveraged buyout.
The last 8 years show that they know nothing about running a football club. They strike a lottery with SAF.
I have no idea how to Sack the owners & I dont really see it happening because I doubt they even watch us.
However, it's time we as a fanbase focus to target Woodward for a sack because I think that's much much more possible and quite easy to do.
This will cause that gap between the glazers and Woodward and atleast a new roll of the dice.
Stop the Glazers out in my opinion (unless there's a guaranteed way it's going to work) & target Woodward like clubs like Barcelona & Madrid target these leader scums.
However, it's time we as a fanbase focus to target Woodward for a sack because I think that's much much more possible and quite easy to do.
This will cause that gap between the glazers and Woodward and atleast a new roll of the dice.
Stop the Glazers out in my opinion (unless there's a guaranteed way it's going to work) & target Woodward like clubs like Barcelona & Madrid target these leader scums.
We pulled off a bit of a miracle last a season finishing 3rd, in the same way Mou did with his 2nd place.
Last season could just have easily been disastrous. Our form certainly wasnt indicative of a corner turned just a talented patchy squad who occasionally click and also splutter just as frequently.
Just like with Mou its criminal that we havent strengthened even if they were stop gap measures.
That performance yesterday wont define our season however it shows that we are going to be given a horrid time by many teams unless something new is figured out.
But fundamentally too many compromises being made all over the pitch:
- Pogba does NOT suit that dlp position bit how else do we get him and Bruno on the pitch. Now Donny is also not a dlp. So 3 players indeally for one position (this sounds like England with Lamps/Gerrard/Scholes except with less flexibility, and we also signed all 3!)
- we need either a very strong defensive midfield and top top attacking wingbacks OR a classic dm/dlp/box2box or 10 and strong wings. We have neither
- defense was poor and still need a monster CB
- wingers are poor. Rashford cant play the position post injury, Greenwood a striker, and James not top level
Its actually terrifying how unbalanced our team is. We have strikers playing wing, b2b playing dm, AMs playing dlp, wing backs who arent amazing attackers and cb's who are weak 1on1.
No way we can get consistent results doing this.
Our inability to assemble a balanced squad and equally move players on is entirely down to extremely poor management. And its been 8 years of such. As has been said before its totally reactive and not proactive. Its because they lack the skill and expertise.... we should have let weak players leave and not renewed long expensive contracts and replaced them with the assets we needed. All meat and no fat.
Last season could just have easily been disastrous. Our form certainly wasnt indicative of a corner turned just a talented patchy squad who occasionally click and also splutter just as frequently.
Just like with Mou its criminal that we havent strengthened even if they were stop gap measures.
That performance yesterday wont define our season however it shows that we are going to be given a horrid time by many teams unless something new is figured out.
But fundamentally too many compromises being made all over the pitch:
- Pogba does NOT suit that dlp position bit how else do we get him and Bruno on the pitch. Now Donny is also not a dlp. So 3 players indeally for one position (this sounds like England with Lamps/Gerrard/Scholes except with less flexibility, and we also signed all 3!)
- we need either a very strong defensive midfield and top top attacking wingbacks OR a classic dm/dlp/box2box or 10 and strong wings. We have neither
- defense was poor and still need a monster CB
- wingers are poor. Rashford cant play the position post injury, Greenwood a striker, and James not top level
Its actually terrifying how unbalanced our team is. We have strikers playing wing, b2b playing dm, AMs playing dlp, wing backs who arent amazing attackers and cb's who are weak 1on1.
No way we can get consistent results doing this.
Our inability to assemble a balanced squad and equally move players on is entirely down to extremely poor management. And its been 8 years of such. As has been said before its totally reactive and not proactive. Its because they lack the skill and expertise.... we should have let weak players leave and not renewed long expensive contracts and replaced them with the assets we needed. All meat and no fat.
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I agree with all of this, except for maybe CB where we can get by with our 2 + Smalling.
The biggest factor we're missing post-SAF is the ability to build a team - he would not have allowed half of the signings over the last 7 years to take place. As you say, way too many square pegs in round holes.
Rashford and Greenwood are both primarily strikers, neither can really dribble. VDB looks like another AM - we already have two in Bruno and Pogba. Who sanctioned that?
I'm not sure where football got so complicated at United but with SAF it was simple - pacy, skilful wide players, a strong and technical midfield, good full backs - all of which we lack. Things like pressing have become a bigger deal but what we really lack is the ability of managers like SAF and Klopp to build a balanced team.
We were far 2nd rate to Liverpool till 1990 but were lucky to have IPO, Class of ‘92 and Fergie at the start of the 90s and bootstrapped up from there. Barca and Real did the same.
1990 was also the end of socialism and now with 15 years of unfettered capitalism, when inequality increased to current points, a football club became an interesting thing for big capital to play with for its own non-monetary (not directly at least) purposes.
The Glazers made a leveraged buyout in the mid 2000s, the same time that the sovereign wealth funds came in.
This really big money, the money that doesn’t care about the club being profitable viewed success as instantly purchasable and therefore opaque to fans who want to see a process where one initiative leads to success down the road.
You can’t blame the Glazers for not investing enough to win a title, they are people who have no money of their own who seek to run their own expenses from dividends skimmed from Man Utd. How can a running business compete with sovereign wealth funds who don’t care about profit? No way they can make money if they spend enough to beat City/Chelsea.
They don’t spend enough to come 1st and win a title but spend enough to come 3/4, which is the sweet spot in the profitability curve.
Arsenal started doing that in the mid-2000s too and Henry left once he knew there was no ambition. Rooney (and probably Cristiano) realized it a little later with us too. and tried to leave us (CR7 left) for the same reasons.
Inequality has brought us to where we are and we are left with where all we can hope for is that the next big fund buys us and gives us toys. There is no process left, just unexpected gifts from unimaginable power.
We are kids whose parents are stingy, are of modest means, peering into the window of a house where other kids are being given lavish presents by unimaginably rich, for us, parents.
1990 was also the end of socialism and now with 15 years of unfettered capitalism, when inequality increased to current points, a football club became an interesting thing for big capital to play with for its own non-monetary (not directly at least) purposes.
The Glazers made a leveraged buyout in the mid 2000s, the same time that the sovereign wealth funds came in.
This really big money, the money that doesn’t care about the club being profitable viewed success as instantly purchasable and therefore opaque to fans who want to see a process where one initiative leads to success down the road.
You can’t blame the Glazers for not investing enough to win a title, they are people who have no money of their own who seek to run their own expenses from dividends skimmed from Man Utd. How can a running business compete with sovereign wealth funds who don’t care about profit? No way they can make money if they spend enough to beat City/Chelsea.
They don’t spend enough to come 1st and win a title but spend enough to come 3/4, which is the sweet spot in the profitability curve.
Arsenal started doing that in the mid-2000s too and Henry left once he knew there was no ambition. Rooney (and probably Cristiano) realized it a little later with us too. and tried to leave us (CR7 left) for the same reasons.
Inequality has brought us to where we are and we are left with where all we can hope for is that the next big fund buys us and gives us toys. There is no process left, just unexpected gifts from unimaginable power.
We are kids whose parents are stingy, are of modest means, peering into the window of a house where other kids are being given lavish presents by unimaginably rich, for us, parents.
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Exactly. Those scumbags are here just for the money, so don't give them money anymore and they'll definitely leave.
Imo the story about no one would purchase Utd except Arabic or Russian billionaires is actually a myth. It's true if the price is 3bn but what if for much less? Imo there'd be a lot than those.
Let me explain. The current price quoted for Utd is that high mainly because of the share price. But share price would change? Hell yes, we've seen so many companies went from billions to millions sometime just overnight.
First thing, how Utd generate money? Mainly:
1. TV moneys: as the PL sell the league as a whole then divide among the clubs based on their positions. Actually if Utd fans stop watching Utd, it does not only affect Utd but equally all the other 19 clubs. So this is not as important as it sounds.
2. Commecials, sponsorship and advertisements. This is what separate Utd from the rest and where we fans could hit them hard. Just stop buying commercials, products associated or advertised with Utd names, stop reading Utd news and articles, stop giving the clicks on social media and this will dry up like a rock falling from a cliff.
3. Matchday money: it's Covid so not anytime soon. And this actually now take a small percentage in the total revenues.
Now hypothetically we manage to cut them from the 2) money. Utd would report a huge revenues lost this year. And the years after. Would the Glazers leave? Not yet I think. They'll take out loans again. But as we already have a huge debts and our revenues are falling horribly and the fans turned on the owners, I'd seriously doubt banks would give them new loans. They're not stupid, they only loan you money if they think you would pay them full.
Then the stock prices would drop like a falling star. Now what choices left for those cnuts? Clearly the club won't be able to give them money anymore. And if the club goes bankrupt, they would lose all their investments. Only choice left is to sell the club asap. But for a much much less than the £3bn. Investors are not stupid.
In the end of the day. What Utd is actually? A business that valued at £3bn? Hell no. Our assets are just the stadium, a trainning ground, our players and our brand. Our brand is basically our fanbase and how much money our partners would make using it. Utd is nothing without the fans. As any other sport club.
It's actually not hard as it sound. As long as we can united. Just stop giving them money and they'll leave. Of course it'll hurt Utd as much as it hurt them. But what victory can be achieved without some loss? We will never come back to what we should as long as those parasites are here. I'd rather seeing us getting relegated then a new owner and start all over again than the current ongoing shit show. Same shit, every years.
I've made up my mind. This is what I would do until those scumbags are gone. Stop moaning and do something. It's our own fault for letting such disgrace happen to our club.
Time to act, guys.
How do 4 and 5 affect things ? For 3, it's easy, there are lots of rivers around. Personally I've never done 1 and 2 and never will in my entire life.
I think we make far too many excuses for Pogba when he is just failing to do basic things. I know he is starting deeper but he is not limited to that deep role he has the license to go forward and doesn't have as many defensive duties as a normal Dlp. He just has to take responsibility as grown man because even if you play him in that 10 role he is still inconsistent.
I agree with all the other aspects of your post especially the point on wingers/inside forwards. Rashford and Greenwood aren't ideal for those roles because they are inconsistent dribblers and mostly lack invention which is also made worse by having archaic fullbacks which allows teams to congest central areas.
Without a threat from out wide this will be theme for rest of the season and soon negativity will set in. If Ole doesn't get Sancho he has to sign a left back and change formation to a 4-4-2 diamond or the box in midfield that Atletico use.
----------------De Gea---------------
AWB*--Bailly---Maguire--Shaw*
------------Fred--------Matic---------
----Pogba-------------------Bruno----
--------Martial-------Greenwood*--
Ideally we would need better fullbacks and Greenwood starts ahead of Rashford until the latter is back to full fitness but I think we would get more from Pogba and Bruno if they are both pushed up. We just don't have the wingers to play a 4-2-3-1 and the DM to play a 4-3-3.
We generate huge money on sponsorship and advertisement. Afaik the volume of our social media and internet interaction contributes heavily to that. No one would pay Utd to advertise their products if none is talking about Utd. Or the money would be much less. If we don't read the news about Utd journalists eventually would stop writing about us. Same principles with famous people I think.
The thing that really gets me is the forward planning. Or lack there of.
It feels like we go into every transfer window like a lost little child, completely unprepared and having done no ground work towards making any deal.
Ed shouldn’t be working heard during transfer windows. The deal should be done. When it closes is when Ed should really be earning his money ensuring that when the next window opens, we have signed players promptly. This whole cat and mouse game with clubs every season has to stop. He’s getting destroyed and out played at every corner.
It feels like we go into every transfer window like a lost little child, completely unprepared and having done no ground work towards making any deal.
Ed shouldn’t be working heard during transfer windows. The deal should be done. When it closes is when Ed should really be earning his money ensuring that when the next window opens, we have signed players promptly. This whole cat and mouse game with clubs every season has to stop. He’s getting destroyed and out played at every corner.
But this is fading. If we dont qualify for the CL, it is gonna hit us badl. Not that the Glazers will care abiut it as long as they get their dividends. I have had enough of so many years of incompetence
I see but in order for that to have a serious impact, we'd need to do it for months and years. I don't see how this is feasible for this forum
it reeks of a man who is not willing to admit his weaknesses (ie. how to close transfers) and address them for the best of the company he works for.
Repeatedly we see clubs who have just as much money as us, pay less for players, get transfers done quickly and efficiently (eg. Marina Granovskaia at Chelsea) yet year after year the club do not address this huge flaw in the system.
Frustrating and until either Ed goes / Glazers go or they get a DOF in who can close deals we're just going to have to get used to this fact
Its not so much an excuse for Pogba more that he is not good at it. Dlp's need to drop deep sometimes right back to the defensive line. First rule though is to maintain possession. Now Pogba is as you say inconsistent as a 10 but he is allowed to be. He cant do that as a regista. He also lacks the instincts for the position. He is better as an AM or box2box. Yesterday saw Mctominay involved too much in build up and and think there was a reason for that....
Liverpool got Hicks n Gillette out. This kind of attitude means you deserve the parasites.
We can do things to force them out. Fans have to unite and stop this 'top red I'm not upsetting anyone BS'
Scousers got their wish and now look at them.
This is simple enough for a supposed world class player to do, he is just overindulged. Simple 5 yard passes shouldn't be something we say a player of Pogba's ilk cannot do, he is just reckless and lacks the mental discipline to maintain focus because technically he has the skillset for the role.
A quick fix while we are waiting might be to play players in the position that suits them best. Why is Pogba being used as a defensive midfielder? He’s just one of many in recent years and it’s generally the players who kop the flak. I’m fully expecting Juan Mata to be in goal against Luton.
Some might even say we're Jewish kids at Christmas.
Bang on
I've got no time for the defeatist attitude of some of the fans on here; they're actually now part of the problem.
Pogba isn’t a no10 either though. He’s horrible at playing with his back to goal or on the half turn.
A number of us expected the Bruno signing to lead to a midfield three with Pogba left and Bruno right of a sitting DM. Instead we are playing Bruno ahead of the deep two.
Bruno played well yesterday when he dropped back so hopefully we can change the balance in there and get two of Pogba, Bruno and VDB alongside a sitting midfielder.
Bruno also technically has the skillset for the role. But when he dropped deep yesterday to help out he was awful.
Pogba is a problem player for the very reason that he is a jack of all trades attacking midfielder who likes to have the freedom to roam and contribute in a mercurial way. He has the opposite mindset of a disciplined midfielder who sits and controls things.
Whatever the number, Pogba likes to be the most advanced player in a midfield 3 with a roaming role towards the left.
The Problem with a sitting DM and two advanced midfielders is that it can get overrun defensively and lack control offensively. The DM would essentially have to be a one man army. That player may exist but we definitely don't have him in our squad.
What is required is a figurehead(s) to a campaign to get the Adams family out with their cronies. But it's not enough money is reqd to fund a sustained media campaign & serious money at that.
The knobs needs to be undermined thinks of investigative journalism ie panorama but with money backing it. We lack coordinated effort #tag this & that is only a small part. The image of the club it's directorate & owners needs to be tarnished. Eventually this will impact the brand & margins = net capital reduced. This is a long term game.
Now one will buy us at 3bn or even 2bn why because there are better options ie NUFC (still think something underhand at PL HQ to stop it ie red dippers & others).
This is what we are dealing with. Huge fan base but with no influence because we are not coordinated. We need well connected people who are willing to execute a plan & well waste money on principle.
I look at all these threads on here & think it's all well & good debating our performance our youth etc etc but the one focus of every fan should be to get rid of the hierarchy. Sadly we lack any coordination & because of that nothing will ever happen.
The knobs needs to be undermined thinks of investigative journalism ie panorama but with money backing it. We lack coordinated effort #tag this & that is only a small part. The image of the club it's directorate & owners needs to be tarnished. Eventually this will impact the brand & margins = net capital reduced. This is a long term game.
Now one will buy us at 3bn or even 2bn why because there are better options ie NUFC (still think something underhand at PL HQ to stop it ie red dippers & others).
This is what we are dealing with. Huge fan base but with no influence because we are not coordinated. We need well connected people who are willing to execute a plan & well waste money on principle.
I look at all these threads on here & think it's all well & good debating our performance our youth etc etc but the one focus of every fan should be to get rid of the hierarchy. Sadly we lack any coordination & because of that nothing will ever happen.
It’s the City midfield essentially.
Fernandinho - Matic/Fred
Silva - Pogba
De Bruyne - Bruno
Now Matic is less mobile than Fernandinho despite being a couple of years younger. Fred has similar qualities to Fernandinho in terms of work rate and ball recovery but lacks the positional discipline and passing ability.
But overall I think our three could be drilled enough to negate any defensive failings. Silva and De Bruyne are mainly good because they work so hard not because they are great tacklers.
I think Ole has done a decent job especially 2nd half of last season but he seems incapable of coaching an effective high press.
I also can’t help but think we played better before Pogba came back into the team. Two from Fred, Matic and McTominay gave a solid midfield for the front four to play in front of. If you do bring Pogba in to replace a more hardworking midfielder I think you have to compensate by dropping Bruno into the midfield three to balance out the less defensive player.
American owners are the worst, they are capitalists and to them, the club is just a tool to make money. That's great for them but it's terrible for the club and fans. If I have no attachment to Man Utd, that's how I would run my business as well. We always make fun of the Russians, Chinese, Arabs but they make the best owners. Even Leicester who is owned by a Thai seems more well-managed than us.
Someone needs to come up with a case study on how Liverpool fans got them out and we need to make a blueprint of it and follow suit. We are probably the best football fans any owner could have asked for. If this was at Barca, Real Madrid, Juve or any big clubs, there would be riots.
We have none... well we do, just that it's financial. That's it.
Top 4 is the standard, CL qualified and taking part in it are huge financially. That's the problem though, the first/main motivation is money, with football (hopefully) at best second priority. Football should be the main factor with money supporting it... or money being used as a strong driving force of motivation to be the best in football.
Seriously, does Ed really care to be the best football team, no way... his only interest is to be among the top, minimum CL qualified is the criteria, that way it'll generate the best money sustenance, by optimum, with the club remain within as top club presumably.
Whoever is advising Ed in football matters are doing bad jobs. And whoever Ed appointed to be in charge of those making deals, negotiations and scouting are so bad in their jobs. Chain in commands have weak links at the end.
Forward planning comes from below, usually the ambitious manager.. if they are ambitious and the planning type, really good if they know what they're doing. Not making things up as they go along. Unless it's a special manager, even then a good manager will be held back by the lack of financial support and incompetency from the top.
How on Earth do we do that. I am sure with the fanbase we have it really is possible. All we need is coordination. Any platforms out there where this is being discussed seriously? Active protests during matchdays could help a lot as well.
The thing with Pogba is that even when you give him what he supposedly wants in terms of position he will play well for a few games and when he is targeted he just doesn't have the fighting spirit to soldier on. Ole made him the most advanced midfielder when he came in then teams figured us out, we lost Herrera and reverted to type.
Pogba is why I was apprehensive of us signing a No.10 in the summer of 2019. At least as the most advanced midfielder you get to utilize his creativity and not suffer too much from his lack of discipline but you need two water carriers behind him.
Now that we have signed two No.10s or advanced midfielders I think that boat has sailed. Our other option is to sign a Makalele type and push Pogba up a bit in a 4-3-3 but given that we don't have any wingers of quality I think we should attempt a 4-2-2-2 with two of Pogba, VDB and Bruno playing as the two behind two splitting strikers buttressed by two holding midfielders to shore things up. Sign Telles and suddenly our fullback options arent as poor as they are now for such a narrow formation.
The problem in business is that you can't be financially successful if you are technically poor. The brand can only take you so far without the product and this failure dampens the fans' enthusiasm, often leads to fan revolt and sponsors will be apprehensive to associate with a club at war with its fans.
Another thing is we pay outrageous amounts in wages and fees for poor players. It's a travesty that players like Lingard, Jones and Mata take home around £400k per week. That is not a sign of a god financial plan. We have neither a good financial or football (technical) plan, all things point to the upper management being out of its depth - a failure of leadership.
Firstly it starts with Woodward not recognizing his own weaknesses or allowing his ego to blind him from seeing them. This is this eighth summer and we are making the same mistakes we were making in 2013. A good leader surrounds himself with people who mask his own weaknesses and doesn't let his ego get in the way.
United have declined because of a failure in recruitment but he as the CEO hasn't taken any steps to rectify this. He has just cobbled up a group of the same scouts that have been failing us into some sort of transfer committee and presented that as reforms when more was needed.
The Glazers themselves are to blame. It's their money at stake, their asset being badly run and they have the access to some of the best brains in the game to get ideas and recommendations. We view them as some sort of evil geniuses but they suck at implementing the first rule of capitalism - efficiency. Our transfers fees and wage bill don't align with a club set up to run for profit at all because we waste about £50m a year paying wages to average talent that are not advancing the team on the pitch.
If they were any good at what they are supposed to do they would demand more of Woodward and force him to bring in football people that can run a wealthier version of Dortmund at 60% of the current wage bill not wasting hundreds of millions on players like Pogba and Maguire and still stuck in the fight for top four.
Agree.Exactly. Those scumbags are here just for the money, so don't give them money anymore and they'll definitely leave.
Imo the story about no one would purchase Utd except Arabic or Russian billionaires is actually a myth. It's true if the price is 3bn but what if for much less? Imo there'd be a lot than those.
Let me explain. The current price quoted for Utd is that high mainly because of the share price. But share price would change? Hell yes, we've seen so many companies went from billions to millions sometime just overnight.
First thing, how Utd generate money? Mainly:
1. TV moneys: as the PL sell the league as a whole then divide among the clubs based on their positions. Actually if Utd fans stop watching Utd, it does not only affect Utd but equally all the other 19 clubs. So this is not as important as it sounds.
2. Commecials, sponsorship and advertisements. This is what separate Utd from the rest and where we fans could hit them hard. Just stop buying commercials, products associated or advertised with Utd names, stop reading Utd news and articles, stop giving the clicks on social media and this will dry up like a rock falling from a cliff.
3. Matchday money: it's Covid so not anytime soon. And this actually now take a small percentage in the total revenues.
Now hypothetically we manage to cut them from the 2) money. Utd would report a huge revenues lost this year. And the years after. Would the Glazers leave? Not yet I think. They'll take out loans again. But as we already have a huge debts and our revenues are falling horribly and the fans turned on the owners, I'd seriously doubt banks would give them new loans. They're not stupid, they only loan you money if they think you would pay them full.
Then the stock prices would drop like a falling star. Now what choices left for those cnuts? Clearly the club won't be able to give them money anymore. And if the club goes bankrupt, they would lose all their investments. Only choice left is to sell the club asap. But for a much much less than the £3bn. Investors are not stupid.
In the end of the day. What Utd is actually? A business that valued at £3bn? Hell no. Our assets are just the stadium, a trainning ground, our players and our brand. Our brand is basically our fanbase and how much money our partners would make using it. Utd is nothing without the fans. As any other sport club.
It's actually not hard as it sound. As long as we can united. Just stop giving them money and they'll leave. Of course it'll hurt Utd as much as it hurt them. But what victory can be achieved without some loss? We will never come back to what we should as long as those parasites are here. I'd rather seeing us getting relegated then a new owner and start all over again than the current ongoing shit show. Same shit, every years.
I've made up my mind. This is what I would do until those scumbags are gone. Stop moaning and do something. It's our own fault for letting such disgrace happen to our club.
Time to act, guys.
No, they didn't. Liverpool's fed up creditors got them out. The fans just piled on to an already desperate situation and amusingly claimed credit.
Numbers 3 and 5 won't do anything. The second only works if the united name is attached.
It's even better then. They don't care about the club but they surely care about their money. If the club reports a huge loss it mean no dividens for them. And even no money to pay their debts and its interest. Imo two, three years of that and they'll sell the club.
I've limited my daily caf dose to around 15'. And I'm ready and will do so until they're gone. How long it is I don't know and don't care. It's not like I can't live without talking about Utd. Truth is I'd live a more productive, happier and better life I think.
Imo we should stop moaning about them if we can't even do that. I don't think it's a big ask or such difficult things to do. Imo if we, all the Utd fans could unite into a massive boycott campaign then they'd leave in two, max three years. Realistically I do not think many here or of our fans would care enough to join that, but at least I'm pretty sure I can do that. Feck those scumbags I've had enough.
I feel like we have this discussion every transfer window. There's literally nothing we can do unfortuantely.
The Glazers approach to spending only works when there's a truly world class manager at the helm. You cannot appoint Solskjaer who for all purposes is extremely average in his capabilities in management, put him in a situation of needing investment to succeed but begin to dither when it comes to improving the squad.
With our first loss at home there's a resembling element of the seasons infancy after Mourinho finished 2nd. Inadequate financial support from the owners which de-railed our season. There's echos in the mumblings from the media, fans and even Solskjaer has vocally emphasised the need for players. If anything you could say that his post match comments were slightly out of character given he's placing pressure on the owners.
I don't think the Glazers are as bad as people make out when it comes to spending, it's the footballing decisions that mess us up. The managers hired have been poor, we have no shorter than the worst director of decisions overseeing the club's development in Woodward yet somehow despite are gradual decline the owners seem very contempt to not in any way seem concerned outside of finishing top four.
As I've said all week it's an embarrassment to support this club given those circumstances.
With our first loss at home there's a resembling element of the seasons infancy after Mourinho finished 2nd. Inadequate financial support from the owners which de-railed our season. There's echos in the mumblings from the media, fans and even Solskjaer has vocally emphasised the need for players. If anything you could say that his post match comments were slightly out of character given he's placing pressure on the owners.
I don't think the Glazers are as bad as people make out when it comes to spending, it's the footballing decisions that mess us up. The managers hired have been poor, we have no shorter than the worst director of decisions overseeing the club's development in Woodward yet somehow despite are gradual decline the owners seem very contempt to not in any way seem concerned outside of finishing top four.
As I've said all week it's an embarrassment to support this club given those circumstances.
It will also mean that we are done as a club on a top level though. We are the new AC Milan
I haven’t paid any money into football that could get back to Glazers for 4 years. I even restrict my viewing to inconsistent streams for that reason.
I think fans should unite under a common purpose to get them out. But it would require someone like Gary Neville or of that stature with the club to make that happen.
Woodward is going nowhere whilst the Glazers are owners. And no one can afford to buy Utd based on what the owners value the club at (a bit like our transfer policy!). I can only see another attempt at leveraged buy out, which none of us want.
Utd will not be successful until the owners leave, and that isn't happening for a few years unless we get relegated.
Utd will not be successful until the owners leave, and that isn't happening for a few years unless we get relegated.
I’ve said it many times. They bought us as a soccer sports franchise, a the club runs on its own income and they take approx 25mil a quarter in dividends. The objective of recent transfer spending was champions league qualification and now we have it i doubt there will be a push for even more as that would cut their dividend or involve them injecting funds. Similar summer to after we came second with Jose