It's over lads, Dortmund are pulling out all the stops. Have you seen their new guest fitness coach?
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you think Fans will just drop it after having been teased all summer?
If we slap a bid down, Sancho will have to make it clear he wants the move.
Thereby forgoing all loyalty bonuses etc.
dortmund can then blame it on the player insisting on leaving.
Everyone wins. They get the money they need. We get the player that wants to come back to Manchester.
I think I agree with this. We know he wants to come back to the UK, not go to Spain for example, and who else is in for him here at these prices, now or next season? Especially with Covid.
£90 million is a profit of around £82 million on what they paid. Would they really turn that down with the market going the way it is?
Greenwood just handed in a transfer request. Swap deal for Sancho.
Before you believe that as the truth just google her name
she's a track runner not a fitness coachWho is paying more?
They have been backed into a corner'Take it or leave it'.
Dortmund wont know what hit them
Isn't there something we can scrape from Nostradamus about this Sancho window?
This year? No one. Next season possibly a lot.
Sure Chelsea bought Havertz for that and Sancho was a much better player In the same league as him.
Sancho is worth a shit ton. Dortmund don't want to sell. They are right to not budge on fee. If we didn't like it we should have walked away.
Dortmund have said quite categorically they want to keep Sancho for another season and will only accept 108m (GBP) for him - in cash. However, if United come in with an offer of say GBP 75m plus 15m add-ons, who's to say that Dortmund are likely to get that sort of money next year when they will want to sell and Sancho will want to leave - even more than he does now. If anything football clubs' finances - including United's of course - will be in worse shape following another six to eight months of dwindling revenues due to the virus. This must surely be an offer they will have to consider very carefully and may be the only glimmer of hope in this protracted saga.
The full 19-20 financial report of BVB is out. I wanna say their cash reserve is fecking bad
People keep blindly making this statement.
I’ll ask again, where are these clubs generating that much incremental profit in next 12 months for fee and wages required to fund this deal?
for the last time, if you are a seller, your asset is only worth what the market will pay for it.
And no matter what they say, BVB want to sell , and don’t want to risk next summer in these times. It’s basic free market economics
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Yeah but it's not low balling if it's still more than anybody else is offering and more than what they will get next year. It's simply what we can afford to pay.
They can say no of course. But it's still the most money they will get for the player.
To me if we officially make a bid next week, it's a done dealio. We wouldn't even be thinking of doing such a thing without hearing all the right noises.
The train is speeding up.
The train is speeding up.
Honestly that Transfer show is awful. Two absolute clowns who do their best to out guess each other with no actual "inside knowledge".
Very apt that you are first to utter these words.... Getting so close now!!
Ole at the wheel
tell me how good will it feel
if we get him, I’ll campaign with mods that you get new tag line of : Sancho choo choo chief.
I understand she is the World's hottest athlete.Before you believe that as the truth just google her name
Holy Schmidt!
By god she looks very fit.
I mean literally everyone related to Dortmund - all their tier 1 reporters, their sporting director, manager, teammates etc have firmly said that Sancho is staying ever since August 10th. There is literally no news coming from that side for ages, because its been all done and dusted. The only squeaks that come out are almost mocking the United fans and saying we can't accept that a deal isn't happening this summer (clearly true).
I'd love it if it were true, but there's not a chance IMO. The only reason we are here is because we're all transfer Muppets assuming we'll do something, anything as we haven't til now, and won't give up hope until Woodward/Ole specifically say "We will not sign Jadon Sancho", or the transfer window actually closes. Since nobody ever says the first point and everyone always ignores that news, its deadline day that will kill it for this year.
Only way it happens is Sancho kicks up a fuss to leave after we bid their asking price. If he doesn't, even meeting their asking price won't make them sell because they won't feel the need to. Its the same view we had with Pogba or De Gea. At some points, its not selling under any circumstance. At others, it was if you met this huge fee, only then would we sell, no negotiations. Both players stayed. Thats whats happening with Sancho. Its not like he has a release clause that we just activate without Dortmund having a say, he's their player and the key player for them. They don't want to and don't have to sell him if they don't want to.
This is Woody we are talking about. Literally no one knows how that mind works.
The biggest threat to Sancho from another club would be Chelsea in my eyes. They aren’t short of money at all. The only thing that holds them back is the flimsy FFP rules about spending within your revenue limits. Can certainly see them being interested next season where they’re accumulated spending over the last 5 years would be truncated by one year. It’s a good job we’re signing Sancho this summer in any case!
I'm not sure united do business based on itks on twitter.
Yeah I'm not basing my post on those idiots, I've not gone totally insane, but the general noise that a bid is coming from us.
According to BILD that isn't true.
They say that Dortmund have always been open to instalments, the vast majority of transfers are settled in instalments.
Apparently they proposed €70 initial settlement, followed by a 2021 instalment of €30 and a 2022 instalment of €20.
From the sounds of it, according to todays British papers, United are more or less agreeing to the first two instalments, but rejecting the third.
Greenwood to Dortmund then
It's definitely true coming from The Mirror
Never seen a saga turn to shit so quickly since STAR WARS.
Kaveh citing a fanciful idea from Luckhurst. Two bullshit artists
She's nicer than my wife. She drinks that yellow stuff in tins.
I don't have a dog in the fight about what Dortmund will or will not do. But this is really a fundamental misunderstanding of economic theory and the distinction between prices and value.
Markets set prices via supply and demand. But goods can have fundamental values that differ from current prices. This distinction is central to most investing as well as many other economic decisions. Why do you buy a stock at X price? Many times at least, because you think the price doesn't accurately reflect the value of a share in that company, based on your assessment of its earnings and other factors. Similarly, just because the current highest market bid for my house is X does not mean that I should rationally want to sell that house for X. I have reasons to keep the house and one of the reasons may be that I think its has more value than the highest current bid and that in the future the market price will rise.
As far as the market next summer, nobody really knows what it will be like but there are clearly plausible reasons why BvB might think it could be better.
So in terms of a light update we have a "feeling" from reputable-ish reporters: James Ducker, Laurie Whitwell, Sam Luckhurst & James Cooper that there will be a bid for Sancho of sorts made in toward the final week of the window.
My 2 cents is:
-Dortmund want EUR108m (reported everywhere),
- We know we won't write a cheque for this much (As per James Cooper), but:
- we hold out hope that 1) the offer we do give is one that Dortmund can flip to make it look good, or 2) the official bid will allow Sancho to push from his side to Dortmund to accept, in which case they can save face with the whole "he wanted to go" line + they a decent enough £.
^^ Once this supposed bid is put forward, I'd imagine events thereafter to unfold very quickly, either with Sancho as a United player, or us moving to Sarr or similar. Reckon next week is the week for bigger updates.
My 2 cents is:
-Dortmund want EUR108m (reported everywhere),
- We know we won't write a cheque for this much (As per James Cooper), but:
- we hold out hope that 1) the offer we do give is one that Dortmund can flip to make it look good, or 2) the official bid will allow Sancho to push from his side to Dortmund to accept, in which case they can save face with the whole "he wanted to go" line + they a decent enough £.
^^ Once this supposed bid is put forward, I'd imagine events thereafter to unfold very quickly, either with Sancho as a United player, or us moving to Sarr or similar. Reckon next week is the week for bigger updates.
I think it's safe to say next week is Sancho week.
Possibly the week after, at a push maybe.
Possibly the week after, at a push maybe.
One thing that’s absolutely clear is that we’re still after him. Which is clearly good news. So just fecking enjoy it you miserable lot (minus the muppets of course, you crack on boys)
And Dortmund's new guest fitness coach. There's a video of her putting Hummels through the paces and him almost crying about it.Before you believe that as the truth just google her name
You think Dortmund are gonna sell if they've no time left to sign a replacement?? No
Reyna is probably his replacement .
Fair enough. I'm not aware of him
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