Premier league matches to be shown on PPV basis via BT and Sky

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I live in Germany and I get every PL game there is. I pay 9,99€ a month for Sky Ticket Sport.
 

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You can subscribe to Netflix and Disney Plus combined for less than these greedy cnuts are charging for one 90 minute match.
 

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This is going to go one of two ways. They'll back down or its going to lay a precedence which will backfire spectacularly when the likes of Manchester United see the revenue their games make compared to all other games and tell the rest of the PL to jam it up their arse.

United games will literally fund 60% of this fecking thing. Woodward knows it too.
 

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Will be about 20 euro per game then in Ireland. No way am i doing this. If it were a fiver a game, to watch United, then yes.

Our match against Newcastle is the first to do it this way.
The way Utd are playing at the moment it's hard to watch them even when it's free...
 

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This is going to go one of two ways. They'll back down or its going to lay a precedence which will backfire spectacularly when the likes of Manchester United see the revenue their games make compared to all other games and tell the rest of the PL to jam it up their arse.

United games will literally fund 60% of this fecking thing. Woodward knows it too.
Luckily we're only going to be on Box Office once this month apparently. If this happens again in November we'll see, but the backlash has been massive.
 

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All those advocating streams as if they’re great now, I certainly will be using them for plenty of games, but I’m so sick of them. You have to find a good one, which is a pain in the ass with all the annoying pop ups, and they still go down a lot during games. I’m tired enough to have started paying for Sky Sports through Now TV, but I already loathe to pay that much for less than half the games.

There’s no way football is worth the cost of both Sky and BT to me, nevermind these on top. It’s probably just about worth £25 a month for everything.
I even had problems with Amazon Prime when they were showing games last Christmas. I took the free month and it buffered constantly, which is why cannot be bothered with streaming.
 

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Mass saturation of IPTV through forums like this is exactly why busts happen. Quit playing the plug & settle yourself.

Far too many novices jumping on it, not calling you a novice just saying people should be more mindful who they bring in.
The issue I have with IPTV is it’s an inferior product vs when HD card sharing used to work. Maybe it’s improving though?

someone also mentioned decoding European premium channels...didn’t realise that was possible but presumably that full HD.
 

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What's apparent is there's a massive disconnect between the PL and fans. The PL think they're selling an additional product so it should bring in additional revenue. What they've not grasped is that there's a limit to what fans will pay to watch their sport at home as a total package.

Going to a game is a totally different experience you can't just expect to redeem those lost funds through TV viewership.
 

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From November the price in Norway will increase from 50£/month to 70£/month, which is disgusting when you consider we are still stuck with only one 3PM kick off. They also lumped in the Norwegian league in there to somehow sweeten the deal, but no one gives a feck abut that shite
 

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If there was no pandemic, no televised 3pm etc and then suddenly they started doing a PPV service for those 3pm games, would people be as outraged?
Yes because they want fecking £15 to watch a fecking game of football!! £15 ON TOP of the £100 a month people are already paying just to watch fecking football.

yes, I’m outraged and would have been even without the pandemic. I will never, never pay to watch a single game of football. you can not even begin to compare it to a match day ticket.

the fact they’ve introduced this when fans can’t get to stadiums, can’t get to pubs and will feel more forced to ppv individual games does make it worse and makes it seem like they’re taking the piss when people are already struggling. How long before the super Sunday matches return to 3pm Saturday KO so they can ppv it? Then sky can feck off too as they’d be even more pointless

My interest has been waning anyway and this is the final nail in the coffin. football, a sport for the working class is pricing the working class out of the game now, even at home. They can feck off
 

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Think I’ll just watch Bundesliga from now on. I refuse to pay £14.95 per match to watch the rubbish that is churned out by most Premier League clubs most weekends. Can always watch highlights on Beeb on Saturday night.
 

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£15 per game :lol: Absolutely mental and anyone who pays that is stupid. Would definitely consider if it was £15/month for every game but £15 per game is just ridiculous.
 

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I imagine so, or else they will keep it and just raise to price of PPV once the pandemic is over.

I am not trying to wind people up. I read this somewhere years ago, perhaps even on this forum. People were asking why dont they show every game on tv or even on sky go or now tv. The reason was you would have empty stadiums for teams who are not popular.

Man city cannot even fill their stadium and they are a top six club.
Then they’d have to lower match day tickets which in turn will lower players wages, fees and the big cats big wages. Billions in transfers and fees each season is an absolute joke and is rinsing the the normal man to do so
 

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The thing I’ve noticed is Leicester v Aston Villa and Leicester v Arsenal are PPV, but Crystal Palace v Brighton and Wolves v Newcastle are on Sky.

I know which ones I’d rather be watching, it will get more prevalent as the time goes by.
 

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The issue I have with IPTV is it’s an inferior product vs when HD card sharing used to work. Maybe it’s improving though?

someone also mentioned decoding European premium channels...didn’t realise that was possible but presumably that full HD.
Its improving all the time. A few years ago you had to really know what you were doing, streams crashed all the time and when they worked you could barely make out which player was which.

Now almost anybody can put it on a big TV and watch in perfect clarity.

Give it a few more years and there will be no difference between IPTV and Sky HD in ease or quality.


It took the music industry nearly 20 years to stop fighting the likes of Napster and embrace the future of Spotify. How long will it take football?
 

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The thing I’ve noticed is Leicester v Aston Villa and Leicester v Arsenal are PPV, but Crystal Palace v Brighton and Wolves v Newcastle are on Sky.

I know which ones I’d rather be watching, it will get more prevalent as the time goes by.
If they keep doing that people will just cancel their subscription completely.
 

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Individual clubs should be able to stream games through their chosen platform to fans for a fee, just like game day.

Fan channel 'personalities' can do commentary.

These should be able to be viewed at the same time as any televised matches.

Fans should be able to support their club just like buying matchday tickets. This could save small clubs.

I'd watch MU on MUTV for a small fee every game with fans or ex players doing commentary. Season ticket holders getting free access.
I massively struggle to watch MUTV, the in house rubbish is so bias it's difficult to watch. Having neutral pundits and commentators is far better.
 

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If they keep doing that people will just cancel their subscription completely.
My sky is on a contract at the moment as I phoned and got a reduced deal, soon as that contract is up I’m cancelling. feck this, already showing better games on ppv than what you pay subscription for. Luckily I get Bt free.

growing up as a kid watching FA cup, champions league, in fact all kinds of sport on terrestrial tv got me so interested and in love with the sport, and in turn made me sporty/fit/ athletic. What chance have kids got these days, they already relied on their parents to pay extortionate fees for sky and Bt to be able to watch any of these sports and gain some interest in them and it won’t be long before a cup final is £20+ ppv the way it’s going. I hope the sport crash and burns, feck it
 

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The way forward these days is to share subscriptions

I share NowTV Sky Sports season pass and a Wowcher deal for BT Sport with the old man and my brother, it works out at £10.90 a month each for full Hd Sky Sports and Hd BT Sports which I think most would agree for a stable service (not illegal) is a very decent price.

If there was a game I wanted to watch along with my brother and dad that wasn’t on TV but was on PPV then I’d happily pay the £15 splitting it 3 ways

But definitely not on my own
 

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My sky is on a contract at the moment as I phoned and got a reduced deal, soon as that contract is up I’m cancelling. feck this, already showing better games on ppv than what you pay subscription for. Luckily I get Bt free.

growing up as a kid watching FA cup, champions league, in fact all kinds of sport on terrestrial tv got me so interested and in love with the sport, and in turn made me sporty/fit/ athletic. What chance have kids got these days, they already relied on their parents to pay extortionate fees for sky and Bt to be able to watch any of these sports and gain some interest in them and it won’t be long before a cup final is £20+ ppv the way it’s going. I hope the sport crash and burns, feck it
When they decided to split the PL package was the first kick in the teeth for fans, then ITV losing the CL was final nail. I have MUTV as well as Sky on a running contract and BT. I really only have MUTV for the women's games. The picture is atrocious at the moment. It is supposed to be HD but it looks like someone is filming it on their phone. I loved watching La Liga on Sky, until they managed to lose that to yet another subscription channel. I might seriously cancel MUTV and get La Liga Channel and still save money.
 

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The thing I’ve noticed is Leicester v Aston Villa and Leicester v Arsenal are PPV, but Crystal Palace v Brighton and Wolves v Newcastle are on Sky.

I know which ones I’d rather be watching, it will get more prevalent as the time goes by.
most likely. I remember when Bruno vs Tyson was the first pay per view boxing match on sky. They blamed it on the amount of money Don King wanted. Yet after that, most major boxing matches became pay per view
 

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The proof of this perception of outrage will be whether people pay it.
I certainly can categorically say I will never pay that kind of money for one game. Not a hope.
To watch it on the TV in my own house ?
feck right off.

For a big match I'd consider 3.99 maybe but never £15.
Its 90 minutes. Then inane drivel spouting from the mouths of shit pundits. No thanks.

Football is in trouble. Fifa and UEFA are as corrupt as ever and oil billions combined with broadcasters greed is taking this to a place where people will just say feck it and walk away so to speak.

It's meant to be the sport of the people but it's getting further away. It's sad.
 

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Knew something was going on, as suddenly there were loads of sat fixtures after the international break at 3pm without tv allocated.

I suppose it was optimistic thinking we'd continue getting the supreme value from the sky and bt passes with all games live!!

As i already pay £10 for wycombe aways, that's championship, but it was also that fee league one (and is league two as well), on one hand £15 makes sense for the premier.
But after giving it away for 6 months it's scandalous.
 

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The thing I’ve noticed is Leicester v Aston Villa and Leicester v Arsenal are PPV, but Crystal Palace v Brighton and Wolves v Newcastle are on Sky.

I know which ones I’d rather be watching, it will get more prevalent as the time goes by.
This is my concern. Put all the most wanted games on PPV whilst the lucky lot paying for a package get to watch Sheffield United vs Burnley.

I personally think it will backfire. I hope it does anyway. It doesn’t help the way United are run and playing but I have gone off football so much going into this new season. No fans, no atmosphere and all the Premier League bosses are so out of touch with normal fans. Greed will be their downfall eventually.
 

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most likely. I remember when Bruno vs Tyson was the first pay per view boxing match on sky. They blamed it on the amount of money Don King wanted. Yet after that, most major boxing matches became pay per view
I’ve just given up on boxing recently too, £20 to watch Dave Allen and Derick Chisora who have about 10 loses between them. It’s scandalous.
 

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I think it's scandalous. Someone thousands of miles away has better coverage of a league based in the country one lives.
Like me in Czech Republic. I pay 15eur per month and have all Serie A, La Liga, Premier league. In Premier league its like 8 rounds each weekend
 

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The Premier League tried PPV football back in the early 2000s with Prem Plus, and it bombed. You can't justify paying a sports package subscription and then pay extra on top, to the tune of £15 per game! It has even less chance of succeeding when there's a plethora of streams available all over the internet.

This would make more sense if Football League clubs could televise their games on Youtube or their official websites or something and charge a fee to watch (but not £15!) since their games are rarely, if ever, televised anyway. They are not getting either TV or gate receipt cash right now. The PL clubs don't really need this.
Lower leagues ARE showing all their games currently.
I follow is the platform in the lower leagues and is £10 a game, although clubs may well give them free to season ticket holders. This season it's every game, whereas last year it was only non sat 3pms unless you were abroad.

So the premier was always going to be more.
 

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So you have to pay for sky/bt/virgin at about £110 a month, tv licence as well and then to watch 38 United games is £570 for the season.


Total per season is approx £1700, fair enough you get other channels with the sub and TV licence but the additional £570 per household is mental.
Sky sports now tv for £20 a month, only get a £25 bt month pass if United are on that month, then supplement with the £15 a game for non televised ones. Will be two rounds free on amazon prime too (set up a dummy login for free prime).
Probs the cheapest way round it(bar streams!)
 

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If there was no pandemic, no televised 3pm etc and then suddenly they started doing a PPV service for those 3pm games, would people be as outraged?
That's the point. If they started with this it wouldn't get as much abuse, as you'd never had them anyway.

To do it after 6months is akin to some dodgy drug dealer hooking you then taking the freebies away.