TheGodsInRed
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Half of the fan base don't have believe Ole can take us to the next level, so it wouldn't surprise me if half of the squad think the same.
Relatively ineffective?Bruno had a good 10 games or so, then been relatively ineffective. He needs to wind his neck in if he thinks he can start this shit.
We let these cnut players keep dictating things it will be Ole gone, then the next guy and so on...
Which oneThere is obviously far more to this than it just being made up bullshit.
Substituting Bruno at half time for tactical reasons was fecking stupid. He’s been our one player that actually looks likely to create something.
Solskjaer is either very fecking stupid, or he substituted him after a blazing row. I know which one is more plausible.
Yeah, Poch did an average job with Tottenham.I actually dont think Ole has done much wrong, I just dont think he is getting the most from the team. For that reason I'd get someone else in.
But not Poch. Unless we want to remain average.
Half? Utter delusion.Half of the fan base don't have believe Ole can take us to the next level, so it wouldn't surprise me if half of the squad think the same.
Can't tell if that's sarcasm.Yeah, Poch did an average job with Tottenham.
Happy to let you work it outCan't tell if that's sarcasm.
So expectations are static then? Is this how you process the world? Either way I didn’t expect United to finish 33 points off the top and to be as hard to watch as they were.You didn't actually answer the question. His was "What was your expectation of last season?" As in what were you expecting BEFORE the season began?
Not "What have you arbitrarily and retrospectively decided was not good enough about last season"
Oh it is. Oh so they were better than average?Happy to let you work it out
Well they became an established top 4 side for multiple seasons, went all the way to the Champions League final and massively improved their win % during his time there, relative to his predecessors. He ended seasons with 71 points, 76 points, etc. I was quite impressed with 86 points when they came 2nd to Chelsea.Oh it is. Oh so they were better than average?
At least I know the expectations. Win nothing(except 1 Mickey Mouse cup). Become established top 4(when others teams were at there weakest). And then lose the dressing room and fall way off.Well they became an established top 4 side for multiple seasons, went all the way to the Champions League final and massively improved their win % during his time there, relative to his predecessors. He ended seasons with 71 points, 76 points, etc. I was quite impressed with 86 points when they came 2nd to Chelsea.
So yeah, I mean, if that's an average job at Tottenham then fair play I guess
For Spurs what he acheived was greater than winning say, an FA Cup. Moreover I'm a bit confused when you talk about "when other teams were at their weakest". I mean, United and City spent a truck load of cash in comparison to Spurs when they brought in Pep and Jose at this time. Conte was also backed in the year he won the league. Where are you picking this point up from? I'm curious because during this period teams above him were just spending shit loads more $$ at their squad.At least I know the expectations. Win nothing(except 1 Mickey Mouse cup). Become established top 4(when others teams were at there weakest). And then lose the dressing room and fall way off.
He'll fit right in with our recent history.
Does it really matter who’s in charge? It’ll be the same story all over again, we’ll fail to operate efficiently in the transfer market and the wheels will come off. Imagine Liverpool spending all summer trying to sign VVD and then still failing. How would such a scenario have affected Klopp’s time at Liverpool? Could be the difference between a CL and league title, and nothing.I actually dont think Ole has done much wrong, I just dont think he is getting the most from the team. For that reason I'd get someone else in.
But not Poch. Unless we want to remain average.
Isn't that exactly what happened?Imagine Liverpool spending all summer trying to sign VVD and then still failing
The teams were in the process of building. He had an open goal so to speak. And still finished behind new manager Conte and spent nothing Leicester. And behind our very own so called 'awful' Mourinho.For Spurs what he acheived was greater than winning say, an FA Cup. Moreover I'm a bit confused when you talk about "when other teams were at their weakest". I mean, United and City spent a truck load of cash in comparison to Spurs when they brought in Pep and Jose at this time. Conte was also backed in the year he won the league. Where are you picking this point up from? I'm curious because during this period teams above him were just spending shit loads more $$ at their squad.
The international break did come at the absolute worst time for us. The flip side of this, however, is that if we don't end up putting out a good performance in our next match, and I mean an actual good performance, not scraping a win like we did against Brighton, then things might end up spiraling even more.Literally been the longest and worst international break. So much bullshit being spread right now, just need to get the football going again, put that loss behind us and move on with life now.
Well a better coach is still a better coach. It helps.Does it really matter who’s in charge? It’ll be the same story all over again, we’ll fail to operate efficiently in the transfer market and the wheels will come off. Imagine Liverpool spending all summer trying to sign VVD and then still failing. How would such a scenario have affected Klopp’s time at Liverpool? Could be the difference between a CL and league title, and nothing.
We want a coach that can get more out of the players, AND that can operate with an incompetent boardroom/senior management structure. There are certainly managers out there that could coach these players better than Ole, but competing at the highest level with Woodward and the Glazers running the show? Good luck. I’m sure the elite coaches in the world will be lining up to have their careers and reputations ruined by Ed Woodward.
The media will take any speck of a story and spin it into something to make money. Ever since Ferguson was gone they’ve had a field day with us. The fact a manager can get us third place and be in danger of losing his job after a couple of bad games is weird. Clearly the mentality of the team is weak at the moment and if you ask me it had to do with “Sancho done deal! Sancho not happening! Sancho done deal!”What in the world is going on with all these rumors? Sounds like the media is trying to take OGS down - or worse yet, someone in the club's management is preparing the grounds for his dismissal. I hope this is not the case.
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To what end? Helps us finish third behind Liverpool and City? I suppose it helps the Glazers by taking attention away from them. How long until the fans start calling for the next manager to be sacked as well? This game will go on forever. I’ve long since settled in to the likelihood we’re not winning anything significant for another two decades at least, so I’m mostly looking forward to seeing the next guy fail and watching the meltdown that ensues from it.Well a better coach is still a better coach. It helps.
On game day, if the team is better coached, you have more chance of winning. And if you win enough of those games, you win things. Irrelevant to what is happening in the transfer market.To what end? Helps us finish third behind Liverpool and City? I suppose it helps the Glazers by taking attention away from them. How long until the fans start calling for the next manager to be sacked as well? This game will go on forever. I’ve long since settled in to the likelihood we’re not winning anything significant for another two decades at least, so I’m mostly looking forward to seeing the next guy fail and watching the meltdown that ensues from it.
I find it ironic your name is "bs call out". You have no clue what Pep had to spend relative to Poch and then you have the audacity to point to him as a winner as a result. It's quite laughable really, when Pep walks in and spunks close to 1bn on his team and you think its reasonable expect Poch to compete on the same levels. Conte again, walked in and spent a fair bit more.The teams were in the process of building. He had an open goal so to speak. And still finished behind new manager Conte and spent nothing Leicester. And behind our very own so called 'awful' Mourinho.
He won 0 cups. Except the one MM 1 i mentioned.
In that time Pep & Klopp came in and went on to win things.
Poch took a team that hadnt fallen below top 6 in the 5 years prior to him joining, and took them up a couple of places. In part due to the forced inclusion of Kane and the scouting of Alli.
He then lost it all and nosedived.
We want a winner. Not Poch.
What’s wrong with that?Great, another Ole outer
You think a player publicly losing faith in his own manager is acceptable?What’s wrong with that?