Half of the fan base don't have believe Ole can take us to the next level, so it wouldn't surprise me if half of the squad think the same.
Sport Witness: Man United row between Bruno Fernandes and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer dismissed as 'lies'
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There is obviously far more to this than it just being made up bullshit.
Substituting Bruno at half time for tactical reasons was fecking stupid. He’s been our one player that actually looks likely to create something.
Solskjaer is either very fecking stupid, or he substituted him after a blazing row. I know which one is more plausible.
Substituting Bruno at half time for tactical reasons was fecking stupid. He’s been our one player that actually looks likely to create something.
Solskjaer is either very fecking stupid, or he substituted him after a blazing row. I know which one is more plausible.
Relatively ineffective?
Are you drunk?
Even when he is misplacing passes he still creates multiple chances a game. He is our most effective player every game.
Which one
I actually dont think Ole has done much wrong, I just dont think he is getting the most from the team. For that reason I'd get someone else in.
But not Poch. Unless we want to remain average.
But not Poch. Unless we want to remain average.
Its funny our fans using this unsubstantiated article to take another dig at the manager. God forbid any of our managers ever pass through this site- all illusions of support will be shattered.
Yeah, Poch did an average job with Tottenham.
Half? Utter delusion.
It’s hard to tell whether Ole is doing a good job given results improved immensely when he first took over and immensely last season once he got players fit and was backed in January.
However, I just feel that we just never ever play well. We always look clueless and disjointed. Players like Fernandes have dipped in form over the past few weeks and months as they look clueless. Would not surprise me if the players don’t trust Ole given they never seem to have a clue what they’re doing half the time. We rely massively on individual moments and set-pieces, at the moment mostly penalties actually.
However, I just feel that we just never ever play well. We always look clueless and disjointed. Players like Fernandes have dipped in form over the past few weeks and months as they look clueless. Would not surprise me if the players don’t trust Ole given they never seem to have a clue what they’re doing half the time. We rely massively on individual moments and set-pieces, at the moment mostly penalties actually.
Can't tell if that's sarcasm.
Happy to let you work it out
So expectations are static then? Is this how you process the world? Either way I didn’t expect United to finish 33 points off the top and to be as hard to watch as they were.
For transparency, if the end goal of this exercise is to convince me Ole is a good manager, then this exercise is doomed to fail.
Oh it is. Oh so they were better than average?
Well they became an established top 4 side for multiple seasons, went all the way to the Champions League final and massively improved their win % during his time there, relative to his predecessors. He ended seasons with 71 points, 76 points, etc. I was quite impressed with 86 points when they came 2nd to Chelsea.
So yeah, I mean, if that's an average job at Tottenham then fair play I guess
At least I know the expectations. Win nothing(except 1 Mickey Mouse cup). Become established top 4(when others teams were at there weakest). And then lose the dressing room and fall way off.Well they became an established top 4 side for multiple seasons, went all the way to the Champions League final and massively improved their win % during his time there, relative to his predecessors. He ended seasons with 71 points, 76 points, etc. I was quite impressed with 86 points when they came 2nd to Chelsea.
So yeah, I mean, if that's an average job at Tottenham then fair play I guess
He'll fit right in with our recent history.
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Who the fook is that guy?
For Spurs what he acheived was greater than winning say, an FA Cup. Moreover I'm a bit confused when you talk about "when other teams were at their weakest". I mean, United and City spent a truck load of cash in comparison to Spurs when they brought in Pep and Jose at this time. Conte was also backed in the year he won the league. Where are you picking this point up from? I'm curious because during this period teams above him were just spending shit loads more $$ at their squad.
Does it really matter who’s in charge? It’ll be the same story all over again, we’ll fail to operate efficiently in the transfer market and the wheels will come off. Imagine Liverpool spending all summer trying to sign VVD and then still failing. How would such a scenario have affected Klopp’s time at Liverpool? Could be the difference between a CL and league title, and nothing.
We want a coach that can get more out of the players, AND that can operate with an incompetent boardroom/senior management structure. There are certainly managers out there that could coach these players better than Ole, but competing at the highest level with Woodward and the Glazers running the show? Good luck. I’m sure the elite coaches in the world will be lining up to have their careers and reputations ruined by Ed Woodward.
Literally been the longest and worst international break. So much bullshit being spread right now, just need to get the football going again, put that loss behind us and move on with life now.
Isn't that exactly what happened?
The teams were in the process of building. He had an open goal so to speak. And still finished behind new manager Conte and spent nothing Leicester. And behind our very own so called 'awful' Mourinho.
He won 0 cups. Except the one MM 1 i mentioned.
In that time Pep & Klopp came in and went on to win things.
Poch took a team that hadnt fallen below top 6 in the 5 years prior to him joining, and took them up a couple of places. In part due to the forced inclusion of Kane and the scouting of Alli.
He then lost it all and nosedived.
We want a winner. Not Poch.
The international break did come at the absolute worst time for us. The flip side of this, however, is that if we don't end up putting out a good performance in our next match, and I mean an actual good performance, not scraping a win like we did against Brighton, then things might end up spiraling even more.
Well a better coach is still a better coach. It helps.
Ole isn't the biggest issue, we all know what that is. However, that doesn't mean he isn't an issue and the sooner he's changed the better. Always a legend but he's not and never will be great manager/coach material.
The media will take any speck of a story and spin it into something to make money. Ever since Ferguson was gone they’ve had a field day with us. The fact a manager can get us third place and be in danger of losing his job after a couple of bad games is weird. Clearly the mentality of the team is weak at the moment and if you ask me it had to do with “Sancho done deal! Sancho not happening! Sancho done deal!”
Part of me wonders if the squad was excited to have him on board and it falling through bummed them out. But to be honest that shouldn’t happen to a top tier side
A lot of people taking a rumour with both hands and running with it.
All these stories have been made up out of the half time dressing room row where Fernandes apparently tore Maguire a new one and also said “the tactics aren’t working”. Obviously that wasn’t aimed at Solskjær, he was venting if there is any truth in the story that is.
The creative freedom some of these journalists are allowed is unreal.
To what end? Helps us finish third behind Liverpool and City? I suppose it helps the Glazers by taking attention away from them. How long until the fans start calling for the next manager to be sacked as well? This game will go on forever. I’ve long since settled in to the likelihood we’re not winning anything significant for another two decades at least, so I’m mostly looking forward to seeing the next guy fail and watching the meltdown that ensues from it.
On game day, if the team is better coached, you have more chance of winning. And if you win enough of those games, you win things. Irrelevant to what is happening in the transfer market.
This squad can win things.
I find it ironic your name is "bs call out". You have no clue what Pep had to spend relative to Poch and then you have the audacity to point to him as a winner as a result. It's quite laughable really, when Pep walks in and spunks close to 1bn on his team and you think its reasonable expect Poch to compete on the same levels. Conte again, walked in and spent a fair bit more.
Klopp sure but he's a special case. That doesn't mean you're not a winner if you don't win the leage with a 23m net spend. And as I said I give zero fecks about cups with his Tottenham run because his achievements from the league standpoint relative to his spending and squad was remarkable. He can easily win cups at a top club. Whereas Juande Ramos who won an FA cup with Spurs and feck all in the league, I'd have serious doubts about.
He finished behind clubs that broadly outspent him. And he was 2nd to Leicester in an anomaly season where the entire league was behind. People have legitimate concerns about Poch, but the "blargh he has no cups" excuse is just dim.
And then you top it off by saying he nosedived. Big feck, Klopp, Pep, Conte - they all nosedived too toward the end, that doesn't make them incapable managers.
Great, another Ole outer
International break gossip columns are always fun...
What’s wrong with that?
We've been a free hit for the Media since Fergie left.
Worse part is a big chunk of the fanbase latch on to this nonsense and talk about it like it's TRUE. Pathetic.
No wonder everyone laughing at us at the moment.
The Strong finish to the season seems so far away now,
Worse part is a big chunk of the fanbase latch on to this nonsense and talk about it like it's TRUE. Pathetic.
No wonder everyone laughing at us at the moment.
The Strong finish to the season seems so far away now,
Has he hell as like.
You think a player publicly losing faith in his own manager is acceptable?
Who are we going to blame for signing Bruno now?
Some of our fanbase is in a tough position at the moment. They'd love to blame Woodward for signing a primadonna/mercenary/insubordinate player but at the same time Bruno's been the best thing to happen to the club since Ole took over.
Some of our fanbase is in a tough position at the moment. They'd love to blame Woodward for signing a primadonna/mercenary/insubordinate player but at the same time Bruno's been the best thing to happen to the club since Ole took over.
A loss before the international break is always calamitous, but 6-1 was bound to bring out every vulture in the land.
Getting destroyed at home by a Jose team, a disappointing transfer window and now all these sort of leaks spreading little over a month into the new season...
Even by our standards, it's been pretty exhausting already
Even by our standards, it's been pretty exhausting already