Have to be honest he was awful today, I can see the qualities in him but this wasnt his night at all.
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Konate was the player who headed it twice and was starting for the first time in a long time. Even Martin Keown was crediting Upamecano after a few long diagonals from Konate..
He's not bad on the ball, its more that Upamacano stands out when hes coming forward like that. Kounde is what you'd expect from a CB on the ball nothing extra. Better in the air than Upamacano though
Upamecano was terrible today. His partner Konate was far better.
Upacalamity today..
I'd have to take your word for it because honestly I've only seen him play 5-6 times, and in terms of defensive mistakes he's right with them and mind you playing in a worse league. If not for his low quoted release clause I wouldn't consider him for a second. Much better off building from the ground up.
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He might be good going foward with the ball but thats useless if he wont go back and defend
He was very impressive in the first half, comfortably their best player. Of course it has to be noted that he was allowed to roam and attack so much because they were playing three at the back, and I wondered at the time how he'd go in a back four.
Second half he struggled a bit and then the entire team lost it's head. Not sure how much to put on him and how much was team failure.
Second half he struggled a bit and then the entire team lost it's head. Not sure how much to put on him and how much was team failure.
Its not so much a mobility issue, its that he didnt have cover for trying to play on the front foot and closing down Fernandes who had a moment of genius with the quick throughball. RB defend with a press which is front foot defending and when you press you leave gaps. This was another part of that where Upamacano tried to put pressure on Fernandes instead of letting our best player have time and space on the ball and allow him to do whatever he wanted with his pass. If Shaw and AWB were playing for Upamacano's team you would expect them to help cover when the CB is out of position. Its normal defending and you see it from Liverpool or whoever else. On this occasion RB couldnt cope and cover and our front players blitzed them in that move. Thats why you have players with the quality of Fernandes in the hole and mobile attackers like we have with Rashford and Martial
On the first goal Greenwood timed his run very well and finished 11/10 like normal
For me the main mistake was Rashford's 2nd where he gets dribbled past. He committed in a situation where he looked to be the last man. That was too reckless. Its different when your defence is set up around you and theres time and space for your team to cover your position. That one was just reckless defending. He's caught on the backfoot when Fred wins the ball and it trickles to Rashford and then he tries to adjust his feet and Rashford dances past him. That was the concerning one imo. If Lindelof or Magure did that I'd be pissed, like when they make the other poor mistakes they do make
Which of those leagues had 2 teams in the semi finals of the champions league and also the winners?
It wasnt the premier league
Unfortunately for him, Rashford made him look like a baboon. I think he's been wildly overhyped, and we have Tuanzebe who can comfortable compare.
But he still has alot to prove he is worthy of our shirt and a massive transfer fee.
Though we could buy him and have Maguire, Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Upamacano as our four and make sure we sell everyone else.
But he still has alot to prove he is worthy of our shirt and a massive transfer fee.
Though we could buy him and have Maguire, Lindelof, Tuanzebe and Upamacano as our four and make sure we sell everyone else.
Shades of Lukaku against Chelsea.
Given his low release clause he's still one to keep an eye on, especially if Tuanzebe shows last season's injuries weren't a one off
Rashford just wiped 20 mill of his purchase price
Only one game though.
Only one game though.
So now that all of us who wanted him and barely seen him play have now watched Rashford just totally destroy him do we still want him!??? Ha ha what a crazy game this is,
This was a complete joke, I was actually laughing at the replay when I saw it. Shocking
Better competition at the top but we have much better depth just off the eye test but I take your point.
100%. Axle is our guy. As is the young cb in line after him, Tenden Mengi. No need to be spending more on CB, except when we are ready to let Jones go elsewhere - definitely need to pay him off
He's quite experienced for 22 years old player, but still 22 years old is not that much time to learn everything about decision making.
If Rojo and Jones will go, I still see him in United in 2-3 years time. He could fit in Premier League perfectly.
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Made Shaw look like Mo FarahThis was a complete joke, I was actually laughing at the replay when I saw it. Shocking
Just goes to show that people tend to go mad over any player not at United. Having said that, he's still a young lad and has huge potential. One game shouldn't change that.
Agree with that, I think the cafe rubbing in salt to this guy and their manager is just a symptom of all the doom and gloom towards our own players and a little tongue in cheek.
Bad night at the office but rashford at full flow is a nightmare.
Isnt that just based on familiarity? I mean sure to us we're aware of more quality in the premier league because we watch it all the time. If we watched the Bundasliga all the time we'd be just as aware of all the quality there too
The season is young so the position in the league kind of reflect on one month’s form. Premier league team number 15 just beat Bundesligas number 1 team with 5-0.
Anyway, I would say both are very good leagues where the top teams can expect to loose against bottom half teams, but in the end PL is one level better.
At one point he ran with the ball forward, misplaced a pass and walked back because he didn't have the strength to even jog. There were some serious mobility issues on display from what I saw. A mistake that by all accounts should have led to a goal if the CL hadn't seemingly changed the handball rule when the ball is on the ground.
Comfortably the worst defensive performance I've seen this season. On par with Rudiger for Germany during the last NT break.
I see Liverpool defenders slowly move back when they're caught out. Their teammates cover them and nobody bats an eyelid
Quite easily. Different builds, different squad numbers, starting position on pitch, boots, Upamecano has a beard.
Konate is a colossus. I expect us to go for Upa, but I think buying his partner would be a more shrewd piece of business.
He was awful
I counted at least 3 goals he was at fault for. proper brainless performance and Ole said "we'll have a closer look at him" in this game. Ole probably said "what's he like lads?" and they were like
I hope this was a one off but he needs to impress me after this
I counted at least 3 goals he was at fault for. proper brainless performance and Ole said "we'll have a closer look at him" in this game. Ole probably said "what's he like lads?" and they were like
I hope this was a one off but he needs to impress me after this
We'll pay 80 million so
To be fair I think the way we’ve set up our defensive system since the international break would make Upamecano look like the greatest defender in history. He had a poor game but the Liepzig tactics did neither Upamecano or Konate any favours.
"Hello, is this housekeeping?
Yes? Good.
Can you send a team of cleaners to Old Trafford please.
Someone has absolutely shat the bed here tonight.
Thank you. "
Yes? Good.
Can you send a team of cleaners to Old Trafford please.
Someone has absolutely shat the bed here tonight.
Thank you. "
I am fully up for slaughtering him. As a former CB myself this was unacceptable. If I came into the changing room, being at fault for 3 goals, I would apologise to my teammates.
Imagine if he'd signed for United in the summer and turned in that performance for us, he'd get slaughtered in here and written off. Personally prefer Konate, but he's no where near as hyped, he is a more rounded player for me.
I've always preferred Konate, myself.
Very good first half but... rashford destroyed him in 15 min.
So if you played against Messi and he scored 3 quality goals you'd apologize to your changing room. Yeah sure you would
Our attacking players did some great things. Why is it impossible for them to get a bit of credit?
This is spot on mate..
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