Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)

[Caliban]

Probably I have been Ole out since the shambolic end of his first season and never changed my view as it's so obvious he shouldn't be anywhere near this role that is baffling how people still think he is the right man for the job Would gladly take another 1-6 if it it means Ole getting sacked.

Ole will not be sacked yet, is my bet. Even if.. neither the media or fans are the one to decide his faith

Still you want your team to be crushed, again, again .. only to prove your own point

And you laugh when "your" team looses.

You night as well burn your United shirt, if you have one

Dove OUT !

 

[Mainoldo]

There's a lot of managers I can think of that would probably get more out of this squad.

Let me do it. Could do with a pay rise and I’m 100 percent guaranteed I can hire the right back room staff to atleast make me wing it better than Ole.

Obviously I’ll have my Red Cafe Donny’s cheering me on right

 

[MrSingh2002]

The poor fella doesn't know how to win besides counter attacking.

He needs to go back to football school. Can't be a one trick pony at this level.

 

[wolvored]

Still plenty of uncounted mail in votes who typically swing Ole out.

Are you Ole in or out Raoul

 

[Bird Nerd]

He needs to go. Especially after today! Epic epic fail.

 

[padzilla]

It’s insanity that we haven’t got rid of Ole yet.

 

[Robbie Boy]

I never thought he was good enough for the top honours however I though he was doing a fairly decent job with recruitment and reshaping the squad so I was happy to back him last season. However I think now he has taken this team as far as he can. He has no idea what his best team is, the best formation, the best tactics. We go from playing counter attack one game to high pressing the next. It's clearly evident now that he's been relying on individual brilliance and penalties to win games. It's simply not good enough.

Pochettino is still a big question mark for me, however he's definitely more proven than Ole and has been able to implement a consistent style of play at both Southampton and Tottenham, and over achieved at both on a limited budget. I personally think it's time.

Yeah that's all fair. To be honest, if it wasn't for our run post-Covid, I wouldn't have wanted him near us this season. I think that run is slightly exaggerated when you really analyse it: There were plenty complaining back then that our set up was poor and there was a-lot of luck/penalties involved in those results.

For me, he was only ever a 'fire fighter' who was to come in and pick up the shit left by Jose. He done that and we should have parted ways with him at the end of that season. All the talk was about getting a DoF in and I was excited to see a new manager come in with a new structure in place. Being honest, I was disappointed when he got the full time gig but it is what it is. Last season was generally a shit show bar that run post-Feburary. I was willing to back him this season but under the criteria that we showed lots of improvements in different areas. He's failed for me so far and we're into November.

He can't keep being praised for good results and totally exonerated for bad ones. It's absolutely crazy. As is the nonsense that he wasn't backed etc. He has a very low ceiling as a manager, and he's reached that ceiling. Scholes on BT tonight wouldn't say a bad word against him but his assertion that "this team will eventually come good because they have good players" says it all. He isn't going to criticise his mate, but the fact that he can't even say it's Ole's management that will get us to bounce back, says it all. We'll win some games due to our talented, expensively assembled squad but that's it, relying on individuals as opposed to good coaching.

 

[PoTMS]

Having an issue with people wishing their own team to lose isnt top red you mentalist.

Having an issue with people wanting what's best for Manchester United long-term over a fairly insignificant result that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things in the league is. I don't begrudge people who subscribe to that way of thinking. It's not like they're rubbing their hands in glee waiting for United to lose, in fact it is fecking painful it has to be this way.

We aren't winning the league as it is with Ole in charge, nor are we making top 4 again with all the teams around us looking much better than last season, but who knows pulling the trigger and getting in a different manager who actually has a clue, we might charge up the table.

 

[Still ill]

Ta ra, Ole.

 

[dove]

Ole will not be sacked yet, is my bet. Even if.. neither the media or fans are the one to decide his faith

Still you want your team to be crushed, again, again .. only to prove your own point

And you laugh when "your" team looses.

You night as well burn your United shirt, if you have one

Dove OUT !

Not to prove my point, it's for the better of the team.

 

[Raoul]

Are you Ole in or out Raoul

I'm amenable to seeing Ole move up to a DoF role then hire Poch to manage.

 

[K Stand Knut]

I hate saying this but I don’t see him seeing the weekend out, mainly because I don’t see any way that we win on Saturday.

Be gutted but he hasn’t helped himself at all in recent weeks, arguably this season at all.

Not sure how the club will react to it all. They could amble along because they can afford 2 years out of the CL. If they have any kind of ambition, I think he’s gone no matter what. Luckily they don’t so not sure what they do.

Media appears to be turning and more and more fans on him.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Which ends up making the club's atmosphere toxic.

It ends up widening the divisions on here as it's frustrating trying to reason with some.

 

[Volumiza]

I genuinely believe our squad is much better now than it was pre Ole. However, he clearly is not the man to coach them! We’ve looked clueless how to break teams down for a very long time!

I agree with all of that. I actually think we’ve got a decent squad and we’ve seen how good we can be but as you said, we just can’t break teams down and what’s more worrying is that we’ve been struggling with that for ages and there seems to be zero progress in how we deal with it.

 

[K Stand Knut]

Can't see us winning against Everton or WBA

Really???!? Thought I was negative but blimey!

 

[Judas]

Really???!? Thought I was negative but blimey!

Home to a team who will no doubt sit back and ask us to attack? Sounds like an obvious dropping of points to me!

 

[crossy1686]

Really???!? Thought I was negative but blimey!

They've been super shit, we'll salvage a draw against Everton and WBA will turn us over. It's their cup final. Performance to kick start their season, hang their hat on etc.

 

[Random Task]

I'm amenable to seeing Ole move up to a DoF role then hire Poch to manage.

If I had my way, that's exactly what I would go for.

Ole has eye for talent, his typcally upbeat manner would make he great to work with for any manager, and he'll always have the clubs' best interests at heart.

And Poch has earned a chance to mange a big club.

 

[Raoul]

If I had my way, that's exactly what I would go for.

Ole has eye for talent, his typcally upbeat manner would make he great to work with for any manager, and he'll always have the clubs' best interests at heart.

And Poch has earned a chance to mange a big club.

Couldn't agree more. Stylistically, they are also quite similar in terms of utilyzing more of an attack minded style, which makes me suspect this could actually work.

 

[edgecutter]

If I had my way, that's exactly what I would go for.

Ole has eye for talent, his typcally upbeat manner would make he great to work with for any manager, and he'll always have the clubs' best interests at heart.

And Poch has earned a chance to mange a big club.

Gotta disagree. James and Maguire look nowhere near good enough. AWB was not worth 50 million and it doesn't look like he wanted VDB.

 

[K Stand Knut]

Home to a team who will no doubt sit back and ask us to attack? Sounds like an obvious dropping of points to me!

Actually,yeah. WTF was I thinking!

 

[Nico87]

If I had my way, that's exactly what I would go for.

Ole has eye for talent, his typcally upbeat manner would make he great to work with for any manager, and he'll always have the clubs' best interests at heart.

And Poch has earned a chance to mange a big club.

I hope certain posters stumble in here to have a laugh at the clubs expense and read that!

 

[el3mel]

Home to a team who will no doubt sit back and ask us to attack? Sounds like an obvious dropping of points to me!

WBA are one of worst teams in the league. There're some matches that's impossible even for United to not win. This is one of them.

I believe...

 

[OrcaFat]

If I had my way, that's exactly what I would go for.

Ole has eye for talent, his typcally upbeat manner would make he great to work with for any manager, and he'll always have the clubs' best interests at heart.

And Poch has earned a chance to mange a big club.

I don’t think Ole would take it. He’s proud. Being sacked now will crush him. He’ll go back to Norway to live out his days as a Norwegian league winning hermit.

 

[PoTMS]

WBA are one of worst teams in the league. There're some matches that's impossible even for United to not win. This is one of them.

I believe...

We lost to West Brom at home the season they got relegated thereby conceding the title to City. There's no telling how good Manchester United can make shit teams look.

 

[wolvored]

I'm amenable to seeing Ole move up to a DoF role then hire Poch to manage.

I suggested Ole for DOF last season before the lockdown. Overall we have the strongest squad we have had since Fergie, it just isnt coached right. Ole can oversee transfers in and out. Would be a good way to end his management and moving him 'upstairs' would be good for him as well not to be thrown out of the club he does love.

 

[MrSingh2002]

In before the lock.

Never did get locked this one....

I felt strongly enough to make the call 13 months ago. Nothings changed.

 

[Untd55]

I think some people's comments are like a broken record. After every single bad game, people are saying 'knee-jerk' or 'minuscule result'. So, when does this not become a knee-jerk or minuscule result in your terms? It seems no amount of terrible results or performances will ever be enough.

I don't think this pointed out enough but he has presided over the two worst starts to a Premier League campaign in our history. Not only that, but this one is even worse than the last; it's not like there has been any improvement, but we have actually got worse. We weren't even this bad in Mourinho's last and worst season. I don't get how people don't make more out of this.

Also, I do not get people saying they want him moved to DOF role. What evidence do we have that he knows how to sign players for a pressing team? Maguire, James, and Wan Bissaka are not suitable for those teams at all, so I don't get this idea of moving him to DOF. It just seems like a way to stop him getting sacked.

Also, don't people see an issue with the former (sacked) manager being in charge of his replacement?

 

[redspoony]

Hate to say it because I love him but if we lose Saturday he needs to go.

 

[padzilla]

If beating Everton and West Brom are all it takes for a United manager to justify his position then standards have completely evaporated.

 

[Smores]

I hate saying this but I don’t see him seeing the weekend out, mainly because I don’t see any way that we win on Saturday.

Be gutted but he hasn’t helped himself at all in recent weeks, arguably this season at all.

Not sure how the club will react to it all. They could amble along because they can afford 2 years out of the CL. If they have any kind of ambition, I think he’s gone no matter what. Luckily they don’t so not sure what they do.

Media appears to be turning and more and more fans on him.

I reckon we'll win but if we don't its going to be really hard for the club to continue to back him.

 

[Renegade]

I suggested Ole for DOF last season before the lockdown. Overall we have the strongest squad we have had since Fergie, it just isnt coached right. Ole can oversee transfers in and out. Would be a good way to end his management and moving him 'upstairs' would be good for him as well not to be thrown out of the club he does love.

He identified a slow CB at 80m to play a high line and a defensive RB at 50m to be a outlet on our right. Can we keep him far away from “upstairs” as possible. How about we hire qualified people for the roles at this club rather than being a charity to former players. I love the club too but I don’t deserve a contract at the club.

 

[dove]

If beating Everton and West Brom are all it takes for a United manager to justify his position then standards have completely evaporated.

What standards can we even talk about when we have Ole starting his 3rd season All standards we had are long gone.

 

[Stepney73]

I'm amenable to seeing Ole move up to a DoF role then hire Poch to manage.

no we have to stop this sentiment of ex players being given jobs they are unqualified for.

don’t forget he’s spent 90 million of the clubs money on that big useless lump(and made him captain)
AWB good but not 50 million by a long shot

Bruno good
VDB can see him being decent under a top coach.

 

[Idxomer]

Ta ra, Ole.

 

[DubaiReds]

Problems lie way above Ole. If he goes the problems will remain. The club needs a total restructuring.

 

[Pav1878]

He identified a slow CB at 80m to play a high line and a defensive RB at 50m to be a outlet on our right. Can we keep him far away from “upstairs” as possible. How about we hire qualified people for the roles at this club rather than being a charity to former players. I love the club too but I don’t deserve a contract at the club.

Could not agree more. Ole needs to be kept away from transfers too. Add James to that list please. Complete waste of space.

 

[K Stand Knut]

Keane called it a few weeks ago.

The players are doing what they did to Mourinho and throwing him under a bus that gathers pace every week.

Whilst, I will wholly accept that Ole isn’t help himself, the players need to take a long sharp look at themselves.

We’ll be having the same conversations in 2 years whoever comes in

 

[Raoul]

no we have to stop this sentiment of ex players being given jobs they are unqualified for.

don’t forget he’s spent 90 million of the clubs money on that big useless lump(and made him captain)
AWB good but not 50 million by a long shot

Bruno good
VDB can see him being decent under a top coach.

Plenty of clubs hire ex-players in key leadership roles. Bayern have been doing it with great success for decades. Ole may not be ideal for DoF, but it wouldn't be without precedent.

 

[Pav1878]

I suggested Ole for DOF last season before the lockdown. Overall we have the strongest squad we have had since Fergie, it just isnt coached right. Ole can oversee transfers in and out. Would be a good way to end his management and moving him 'upstairs' would be good for him as well not to be thrown out of the club he does love.

Such a terrible idea.