Then he loses every single point for thinking pogba won the 2016 world cup
Should we consider selling Pogba?
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Touche.
he has his reasons for defending him judging by his posting history. won't go into it here though.
but what he said about his time at juve isn't strictly true and was one of my concerns when people used to keep bumping pogba's threads here saying we should buy him back. his 'education' was largely a bunch of highlight reel moments where others like vidal, pirlo and marchisio did all the heavy lifting in the midfield and you can see it in the way he plays even now. his lack of awareness in our own half especially while facing our defence is the biggest sign of this and at this stage it's not going to get any better.
Because I can?
Sell, sell, sell before it's too late. Or we will get stuck with "MU version of Ozil". I'm sure he will want 4-5 year contract. Pogba is going to be 28 in March. How many "good" years he has left - 2 or 3? At 4-5 good games per season we will get midfield version of Sanchez.
Was reading regarding friendlies and I know that ESPNUK is not greatest football source but this was from short description of France-Finland:
"Deschamps replaced Olivier Giroud with Anthony Martial in the 57th minute and the hugely disappointing Paul Pogba with Ngolo Kante, but the changes had little effect."
Was reading regarding friendlies and I know that ESPNUK is not greatest football source but this was from short description of France-Finland:
"Deschamps replaced Olivier Giroud with Anthony Martial in the 57th minute and the hugely disappointing Paul Pogba with Ngolo Kante, but the changes had little effect."
Caught the game yesterday, whilst he doesn't hog the ball for France, he had a poor game yesterday. He could have had two yellow cards within the 1st half for fouls.
Overhit/under-hit some passes you'd expect him to do better on.
The worst part of it, was hearing the commentators insinuate that he isn't playing at United because of issues with the manager. What a load of BS, if he is not starting at United it's because his form doesn't warrant it. If anything Ole has been very lenient with him.
And dear Dechamps should maybe explain to the public how Pogba's current position shouldn't be on the bench, given his form.
Overhit/under-hit some passes you'd expect him to do better on.
The worst part of it, was hearing the commentators insinuate that he isn't playing at United because of issues with the manager. What a load of BS, if he is not starting at United it's because his form doesn't warrant it. If anything Ole has been very lenient with him.
And dear Dechamps should maybe explain to the public how Pogba's current position shouldn't be on the bench, given his form.
The guy who wrote that doesn't watch us I guess.
Pogba out Grealish in. No qualms. Best for all parties. I'd wish him success at his new club
Get him out to feck. Swap for Cristiano. We'll get more out of a 36 year old than out of Pogba. Complete and utter garbage, he is.
I just want a consistent player who doesn't have as many off days. I don't expect Pogba to have a good game anymore, which is equally depressing and far from good enough. It's in everyones best interest at this point to go different ways I think.
Not a top player 
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.To bring the best out of him, we just need to sign Vidal and Pirlo. It's such a simple solution if you think about it.
You can't accommodate for someone losing the ball regularly in their own third, failed passes, or dribbling down dead ends. At some point, it has to be the player's responsibility. They are in the most privileged position. They play bad, they don't get sacked, the amble around they can blame everyone else except themselves and still cash a cheque. People are far too easy on players, temperamental, unreliable, and expensive that kid people into thinking they are better than they are. Not just Pogba it's so many modern players now.
Get rid, he isn't special or above the club, let him go.
But but but but but I thought he was a monster playing for France?! Talented player but in reality, he isn't that good.
Touché.
The fact that he played for France like he did with Utd tells me something is wrong with him (mentally or physically ?). I watched the game, he really was as bad as at Utd this season
I knew someone was going to do thát.
If we can't find a buyer I would let his contract expire. He doesn't deserve another massive contract.
Right now I feel safer when VDB is subbed on not Pogba.
Right now I feel safer when VDB is subbed on not Pogba.
He had Covid a month or two ago, there's a possibility that it might still be affecting him - a colleague of mine is still suffering after effects from an infection 4-5 months ago and she is a personal fitness trainer, who is in excellent shape.
Very difficult to know from afar, but his performances are well under par at the moment.
it’s sad to see that he didn’t deliver as expected. He had 1 good season and that was it. When i see him play, i don’t see the star everyone talks about. He keeps the ball at his feet too much, he doesn’t pass well (at least recently), he doesn’t score, he doesn’t defend...
He’s almost 28. Should be peaking now. Let him go in january and let’s see more of the young van de beek
And Marchisio.
No - we shouldn't consider Selling him. We should sell him!
Pogba for ronaldo direct swap, let's do it !
Keep. He's a unique talent.
He needs to be part of the team going forward, but he must be allowed freedom and licence to roam forward. No point keeping a Ferrari and using it to pick up the kids from school.
Pogba and Fernandes should be rotated throughout the campaign to keep both fresh and hungry.
Buy a right winger and rotate the two midfield stars and our squad would be so much more balanced.
He needs to be part of the team going forward, but he must be allowed freedom and licence to roam forward. No point keeping a Ferrari and using it to pick up the kids from school.
Pogba and Fernandes should be rotated throughout the campaign to keep both fresh and hungry.
Buy a right winger and rotate the two midfield stars and our squad would be so much more balanced.
Sometimes that doesn't matter. There are players with less talent who have greater impact. Liverpool shotted Coutinho despite him being by far their most talented player, POTY etc and they got better. I feel Pogba would be the same. Juventus sold him and they were fine. He is more suited to a team like Madrid who like Galaticos but we require a different profile of player.
Also his offensive productivity is not good enough to get a free role. He himself is inconsistent in his own game and that does not justify this "free role" everyone claims. Does his national team give him complete freedom? probably not. In the world cup they tied him down to a sitting role and didn't have him advanced like they would Zidane because he isn't of that level attacking wise.
Pogba is clearly a world class player.
I'd maintain my point that any world class player would struggle for consistency within this team, especially when there's doesn't seen to be medium to long term planning.
Give it 6 months and the pressure will increase on Fernandes.
I'd maintain my point that any world class player would struggle for consistency within this team, especially when there's doesn't seen to be medium to long term planning.
Give it 6 months and the pressure will increase on Fernandes.
Hard to believe he's going to turn 28 this season. He's wasted so much time here...
As for selling him I think the money wouldn't be particularly useful. We need to use him to do a swap deal, I think he's worth more to us in that way.
As for selling him I think the money wouldn't be particularly useful. We need to use him to do a swap deal, I think he's worth more to us in that way.
It will if he has to carry the team on his own. That is why he has been bought so that Pogba does not have to take on all the pressure. But Pogba has not stepped up. Fernandes loses possession too and mostly his passing is wayward too. But Pogba loses the ball not because he is trying a forward pass but trying to play all by himself and losing possession in dangerous areas.
There is indeed. He will now probably be benched vs Portugal which is basically a confirmation that he hasn't recovered fully yet
Both Ronaldo and Zlatan had COVID and their performance wasn't affected at all after they recovered.
If he was that bad he wouldnt be playing football. He tested positive in August
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He is not world class, never was, never will be.
I just know from viewing that his fitness levels aren't what they were, not for Utd and definitely not for France. Make of that what you will, all I'm saying it's possible he's still affected by it in some way. You can play football without being at 100%, many footballers do
Covid affects different people in different ways. As I posted earlier, I have a friend who is a personal fitness trainer (very fit indeed) who is still suffering from the after effects of Covid in Spring, whilst I have a work colleague who had it over summer and is fully recovered.
I don't claim to know if PP's performance is affected by Covid or not, I'm just raising it as one of many possible contributing factors, as he doesn't look fit and sharp at the moment.
I've always been a Pogba fan, albeit recognising his moments of poor concentration and some poor decisions have cost us. On balance I've though his account has been in credit, but with the way he is shaping up at the moment, he's a bit of a liability.
I'm with you, kouroux. There is something wrong and it is a possibility that he is still affected by Covid. It may be something else, but we cannot know from our position as spectators.
Indeed. It's one thing for a player to be making mistakes all over the pitch and pissing off fans and another to see him struggle physically. Whatever the reason, he's not fit.
If he's not fit then he should be rested
I’d say he was a touch short of genuine world class but i see what you’re saying. You say ‘this team’ in a disparaging sort of way but how come other players of supposedly less talent - Shaw, AWB, Bruno, Fred for example - are playing better than Pogba in ‘this team’ ?
As a team we’ve been inconsistent hence the up and down season but none are near Pogba‘s level of inconsistency. If he’s world class he needs to take this team by the bollocks and lead by example. How Gerrard did in his prime in a Liverpool team that I don’t think were any better than we are now, how Bale did in a typical under achieving Tottenham team. These players proved their worth, Pogba doesn’t seem able to.
Theres a reason the likes of Park and Fletcher were the first names on a Ferguson team sheet in big games, much the same way as it is now with the McFred combo - they are trustworthy. Pogba is not.
He was average pre-Covid too. Let’s not keep making excuses for him.
He was potentially World Class, won the WC then never kicked on. It’s sad but we have to move on. He’s not going to be the player we thought he’d end up being.
He was potentially World Class, won the WC then never kicked on. It’s sad but we have to move on. He’s not going to be the player we thought he’d end up being.
He's a huge talent but isn't the right fit for us
Thiago would have been a far more effective player for us and I'd like to see a smart player in that style brought in
Grealish is fantastic - a leader of his team and perhaps the kind of character we need though he is more box to box
I think we miss a really talented playmaker or alternatively a top DM so 2 can play off him
Pogba to me hasn't played like a player who is desperate to succeed at United..... I think we might get 60m-70m for him
who knows what the transfer window is like next year though. If Real shed Bale and after a frugal 2020 Summer window they might be interested
PSG would surely be interested in Pogba
Juve will try to low ball us I sense
Thiago would have been a far more effective player for us and I'd like to see a smart player in that style brought in
Grealish is fantastic - a leader of his team and perhaps the kind of character we need though he is more box to box
I think we miss a really talented playmaker or alternatively a top DM so 2 can play off him
Pogba to me hasn't played like a player who is desperate to succeed at United..... I think we might get 60m-70m for him
who knows what the transfer window is like next year though. If Real shed Bale and after a frugal 2020 Summer window they might be interested
PSG would surely be interested in Pogba
Juve will try to low ball us I sense