How do Real Madrid rebuild?

[WR10]

Modric, Kroos, Sergio Ramos, Marcelo and Benzema - the only spine of the team - are on their way out. They look like a mid table team without those 5 in the team.

Modric and Kroos as a pivot two have been world class for 4 years and elevate the team to a whole new level of stability and creativity. Without Ronaldo they have been hanging on by a thread because of the 5 mentioned.

What’s in the pipeline for them? They have no star players, no up and coming spine to the team.

With a financially barren football world, I can’t see Real going on a Galactico steroid injection any time soon.

What happens next?

 

[Murray3007]

Modric, Kroos, Sergio Ramos, Marcelo and Benzema - the only spine of the team - are on their way out. They look like a mid table team without those 5 in the team.

Modric and Kroos as a pivot two have been world class for 4 years and elevate the team to a whole new level of stability and creativity. Without Ronaldo they have been hanging on by a thread because of the 5 mentioned.

What’s in the pipeline for them? They have no star players, no up and coming spine to the team.

With a financially barren football world, I can’t see Real going on a Galactico steroid injection any time soon.

What happens next?

hopefully by giving us a stupid fee for Pogba in Jan, then coming back for Martial with another stupid fee in the summer. on a serious note I don't think its with Zidane, its same as Barca there recruitment has been rather poor lately, on the plus side it might be a time when another team in Spain comes and becomes a bit of a force, has there ever been a time in Spain when both Barca and Madrid look so poor?

 

[11101]

100m for Pogba would be a good start.


I actually see a struggle ahead for them. Team setup and tactics are much more important now, I'm not sure simply assembling the biggest bunch of superstars you can afford will cut it anymore.

 

[Morty_]

No, we aren`t interested in Pogba anymore, deal with it.
The midfield isn`t the main point of concern anyway, other positions needs strengthening more, and besides, Kroos is 3-4 years younger than the rest on that list so he should last a good while longer.

There really is no immediate replacement for Ramos, thats a big one, who will lead the defense when he is gone? I have no clue, we really need to invest wisely in a new CB, and i do mean very wisely, are there any CBs out there that kinda fits his profile?

Side-backs are good, Mendy and Carvajal are some of the best around, Vazquez can step in at RB, though we need a back-up at LB, Marcelo just cant do it anymore.

Casemiro is a great DM, but needs a back-up, as for CM, think its best to wait and see how well Martin performs, he would slot in there.

The greatest need is for attackers, Rodrygo shows promise, but Vinicius i start to question, his decision-making and finishing hasnt improved much, and with Hazard staying injuried all the time, we need a new LW i think, we also need a new striker as Benzema is aging.

 

[giorno]

We sign Mbappé and Camavinga next summer, Halaand in 2022 and De Ligt in 2023

There. Rebuild done

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

All it needs is Mbappe and the rest will follow

 

[devlinadl]

Plus Alaba on a free in the summer.

 

[WR10]

We sign Mbappé and Camavinga next summer, Halaand in 2022 and De Ligt in 2023

There. Rebuild done

Who’s actually controlling the game for you in midfield? Sounds like 300m down the drain without Modric and Kroos addressed

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

Kroos still has some time on his side imo

 

[Acheron]

We buy Mbappe and Haaland in the next two summers.

 

[Morty_]

Who’s actually controlling the game for you in midfield? Sounds like 300m down the drain without Modric and Kroos addressed

Again, how often does it needs to be said that Kroos isn`t as old as the rest of them? He`ll do for another 3 seasons, probably.

 

[carvajal]

If I had a choice, I would sell Casemiro and buy Kimmich, and I would do it because I trust Casemiro less and less and because I can't think of another player capable of replacing Kroos. In my opinion, with Ramos, the only irreplaceable in the team.

The dreamed midfield is Camavinga, Valverde and Odegaard, but assuming that not everything is going to be so easy(Camavinga is with Barnett now and Odegaard although still soon, has been average) or will work so well, we should look for a new Modric, knowing that we will not find a new Modric. In other words, my priority would be a top midfielder.
Pogba is fine, but perhaps he collides (or so the press / fan thinks) with the growth of Odegaard / Valverde.
I would buy Haaland and not Mbappé. If we sign Mbappé I would go crazy but right now his signing does not excite me, I see everything too artificial, I do not enjoy so much when I see him.

I would buy a new central back, but only if Zidane leaves, if not for what? Varane is going to play whatever he does and Ramos will renew shortly.

Isco out. I would give Asensio one more year, due to his injury. If Hazard is still injured/irrelevant, it would be good to sell him.

 

[Blackwidow]

Kroos still has some time on his side imo

I always had the impression that he will not play until 35.

 

[Oly Francis]

The dreamed midfield is Camavinga, Valverde and Odegaard, but assuming that not everything is going to be so easy(Camavinga is with Barnett now and Odegaard although still soon, has been average) or will work so well, we should look for a new Modric, knowing that we will not find a new Modric. In other words, my priority would be a top midfielder.
Pogba is fine, but perhaps he collides (or so the press / fan thinks) with the growth of Odegaard / Valverde.
I would buy Haaland and not Mbappé. If we sign Mbappé I would go crazy but right now his signing does not excite me, I see everything too artificial, I do not enjoy so much when I see him.

Are you trying to reach the quarter finals of Europa league? Real Madrid should shoot for players like KdB, Kante, Fabinho, Milinkovic-Savic (in his good days), Kimmich (even if I doubt he'll ever leave Bayern). With a midfield like that there's no way you achieve something decent in the next 2 or 3 years, if you ever do. it's not really a club where you can move all in on young players hoping it'll work out.

 

[Acrobat7]

If I had a choice, I would sell Casemiro and buy Kimmich...

If i had a choice i would be dating Adriana Lima

 

[fps]

Tricky. It’s not like there is another Ronaldo out there. They will sign Mbappe who will probably become he best striker in the world, very functional player.

 

[Lay]

Is Odegaard impressing this season?

 

[Oly Francis]

Is Odegaard impressing this season?

Not really no. On top of that, he falls in the long tradition of n°10 in Spain that manage to be efficient in average teams and fail to find a spot in top teams. It's very hard to find a real role for this kind of profiles in modern teams.

 

[carvajal]

Are you trying to reach the quarter finals of Europa league? Real Madrid should shoot for players like KdB, Kante, Fabinho, Milinkovic-Savic (in his good days), Kimmich (even if I doubt he'll ever leave Bayern). With a midfield like that there's no way you achieve something decent in the next 2 or 3 years, if you ever do. it's not really a club where you can move all in on young players hoping it'll work out.

You are right, logically I would like de Bruyne, and not bet everything on Odegaard, regardless of his talent, however Madrid can no longer afford those markets, at least until the Bernabéu is over / The super league begins. Years ago they bet on a project and one way or another it must have a culmination. The same was done with Varane, Marcelo, Carvajal or Casemiro.

If i had a choice i would be dating Adriana Lima

 

[Oly Francis]

You are right, logically I would like de Bruyne, and not bet everything on Odegaard, regardless of his talent, however Madrid can no longer afford those markets, at least until the Bernabéu is over / The super league begins. Years ago they bet on a project and one way or another it must have a culmination. The same was done with Varane, Marcelo, Carvajal or Casemiro.

You could have though, considering the amount of money you spent on Hazard (because of his inconsistancy), Rodry, Vinicius, Jovic, Militao etc. It was just poor signings. We did the same at PSG, instead of buying 2 good players we spent a lot on Paredes, Gueye, Danilo, Kehrer, Diallo and a couple of other average players that will probably never be top level.

 

[Ferguson’s Hairdryer]

Ramos = they might try to prise away VVD, failing that Laporte. Failing that one of highly rated young CB’s from Germany or France.

CM. Pogba is the most obvious name. As is DVB as they already agreed to sign him. Verratti from PSG is also someone they’d go for.

Forward. One or two from: Salah, Dybala, Lautaro Martinez, Martial, Mbappe, Neymar

 

[Morty_]

Ramos = they might try to prise away VVD, failing that Laporte. Failing that one of highly rated young CB’s from Germany or France.

CM. Pogba is the most obvious name. As is DVB as they already agreed to sign him. Verratti from PSG is also someone they’d go for.

Forward. One or two from: Salah, Dybala, Lautaro Martinez, Martial, Mbappe, Neymar

No, it damn well isn`t.
What, is everyone around here still living in 2018 or something?
We aren`t interested, end of story.

 

[Gonçalo Motta]

They need to phase out dead weight / players in decline / players that aren't good enough.

Priority should be to sell Hazard, Asensio, Isco, Marcelo, Lucas Vásquez, Modric and loan out Vinícius Jr. Vinícius is a decent player and has some potential but the kid is stagnating and has no end product.
Both Benzema and Ramos are still useful but they need a consistent striker like Haaland.

If they successfully phase out those players they can make room for Haaland and Mbappe and that should fix their scoring problems.

Then they should aim to get Pogba and Camavinga and that's pretty much all they need for now.

Their defense would still be a bit shaky but at least they would have more than enough firepower to outscore any team.

With that said, pretty sure they won't have enough money to buy everything they need in one window. But I dunno how RM's finances are right now so who knows.

Its hard to fill a gap of the size of Ronaldo and deal with a declining core and based on what I seen so far, Zidane doesn't seem to be the right person to rebuild a squad.

 

[Chief123]

It does beg the question about whether Spanish league football is on its way down?

They no longer have the superstars that Barca and Madrid and even Atletico to an extent used to have. They will always have the historic lure for players but ultimately finances will talk. Right now the premier league has the most money, the best managers and most of the highest paid players in the world. Spanish football isn’t even shown in the U.K. anymore. I’d imagine TV revenues aren’t what they used to be.

I do sometimes worry about whether the Premier league could lose this edge that we have one day and end up in the state the Spanish league is heading.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

We sign Mbappé and Camavinga next summer, Halaand in 2022 and De Ligt in 2023

There. Rebuild done

Haaland is coming to man utd. Camavinga will be our Pogba replacement.

The rest you can have it.

 

[giorno]

Ok seriously, the priorities right now are a world class forward, a LB to compete with Mendy(why the feck did we not wait to sell Reguilon ) a dynamic midfielder to compete with Fede Valverde, a reliable backup for Casemiro and a reliable backup at CB, as well as contract extensions to Ramos and Lucas V and getting rid of Bale, Marcelo , Odriozola(WHY), Mayoral(doable), Mariano(again, why?), Jovic(ugh, not happening any time soon. Loan is the only option), Vallejo(doable), Ceballos(doable), Isco(too late, but still doable), and Hazard(Not.Happening.)

As for Modric, depends on his wage demands. On low wages we can keep him, otherwise, not worth it

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

No, we aren`t interested in Pogba anymore, deal with it.

the poster was joking mate

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

It looks like Jovic & Hazard were failure investment. And they should have never sold Kovacic I guess now they want a new midfielder to compete with Valverde and backup Casemiro which to me would have been ideal to cover those two.

 

[carvajal]

Ok seriously, the priorities right now are a world class forward, a LB to compete with Mendy(why the feck did we not wait to sell Reguilon ) a dynamic midfielder to compete with Fede Valverde, a reliable backup for Casemiro and a reliable backup at CB, as well as contract extensions to Ramos and Lucas V and getting rid of Bale, Marcelo , Odriozola(WHY), Mayoral(doable), Mariano(again, why?), Jovic(ugh, not happening any time soon. Loan is the only option), Vallejo(doable), Ceballos(doable), Isco(too late, but still doable), and Hazard(Not.Happening.)

As for Modric, depends on his wage demands. On low wages we can keep him, otherwise, not worth it

Despite all the shit that he gets, actually I think he deserves an extension.
I wouldn't have thought the same a couple of years ago.
I guess the kid from Valdebebas, Gutiérrez, could be a good option for the left back, if he finally gets some minutes

 

[charlenefan]

It does beg the question about whether Spanish league football is on its way down?

They no longer have the superstars that Barca and Madrid and even Atletico to an extent used to have. They will always have the historic lure for players but ultimately finances will talk. Right now the premier league has the most money, the best managers and most of the highest paid players in the world. Spanish football isn’t even shown in the U.K. anymore. I’d imagine TV revenues aren’t what they used to be.

I do sometimes worry about whether the Premier league could lose this edge that we have one day and end up in the state the Spanish league is heading.

No question about it La Liga is done for this cycle. Make no mistake about it Ronaldo and Messi made La Liga what it was without them the period of dominance both Real and Barca had wouldn't of happened. Both sides are going to have to sit and wait it out now

The PL had its time at the summit between 2005-2012 when its sides were regularly contesting UCL finals and winning it but again these things come in cycles and it might be now that the PL is now about to take over again

 

[duffer]

Jovic looked so good before he went there. What happened?

 

[Nani Nana]

Jovic looked so good before he went there. What happened?

Never got a decent run in starting eleven. Also a bit raw to play alone up front. Zidane unwilling to change systems and switch to 2-man attack.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

The issue about rebuilding Real Madrid is that, they don’t often stick with their young players they invested. They often give up on them without giving them long years chances, so having this discussion is bit complex since you don’t know whether they are seriously going to stick with players like Militao, Odegaard, Vinicius & Rodrygo. You just have the vibes that they will give up on them or making them as squad backup player and sign Mbappe, Sancho, Haaland, Camavinga, De Ligt, Konate and etc for regular players.

The only thing that I know Valverde & Mendy will be in their rebuilding project plan, and that’s it. So it’s basically saying they might need another 8 more new outfield players.

 

[DannyCAFC]

Mendy has pretty much already replaced Marcelo who's not been the same player the last couple of years.

Ramos they will miss the leadership and goals but in terms of actual defensive ability he's replaceable. They spent a lot of money on Eder Militao but remains to be seen if he'll step up. They still have one of the best CB's in the world in Varane though so not all doom and gloom.

Modric and Kroos are of course going to be hard to replace but they potentially have some options in the squad already. Valverde is really highly rated and has played a lot of minutes in the last 18 months. Casemiro will still be a fixture and is arguably the best DM in the world. They have Odegaard back who was excellent at Sociedad last year so hopefully he can kick on in Madrid.

Benzema will be hard to replace too - especially as Jovic hasn't developed. Probably a position they might splash the cash in down the line (Haaland maybe if City/Juve don't get him first). They do have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo though in the wide forward positions who look like potential stars down the line so should be plenty of firepower overall.

It will be a transition but they still have enough quality in the squad to retain their place as one of the best teams in the world I think. Certainly their approach to spending on young talent has left them in a better position overall than Barca I think, who basically look like they need Fati and Pedri to carry the mantle once Messi goes.

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

It does beg the question about whether Spanish league football is on its way down?

They no longer have the superstars that Barca and Madrid and even Atletico to an extent used to have. They will always have the historic lure for players but ultimately finances will talk. Right now the premier league has the most money, the best managers and most of the highest paid players in the world. Spanish football isn’t even shown in the U.K. anymore. I’d imagine TV revenues aren’t what they used to be.

I do sometimes worry about whether the Premier league could lose this edge that we have one day and end up in the state the Spanish league is heading.

Would've been hard to go upwards from Messi and Ronaldo

 

[POF]

No, it damn well isn`t.
What, is everyone around here still living in 2018 or something?
We aren`t interested, end of story.

Did you not see how he played at Sheffield Utd? Real would be lucky to have him. He'd easily turn them around single handedly.

Only question is whether they can afford the fee. They really should get a £150m bid in quick just in case Juve come in for him too.

 

[Dare to Zlatan]

I think another big spend up on huge talent will happen, but maybe not until summer 22. The likes of haaland, Camavinga, will all be brought in alongside an Mbappe or someone of that calibre.

 

[United Junkie]

Mendy has pretty much already replaced Marcelo who's not been the same player the last couple of years.

Ramos they will miss the leadership and goals but in terms of actual defensive ability he's replaceable. They spent a lot of money on Eder Militao but remains to be seen if he'll step up. They still have one of the best CB's in the world in Varane though so not all doom and gloom.

Modric and Kroos are of course going to be hard to replace but they potentially have some options in the squad already. Valverde is really highly rated and has played a lot of minutes in the last 18 months. Casemiro will still be a fixture and is arguably the best DM in the world. They have Odegaard back who was excellent at Sociedad last year so hopefully he can kick on in Madrid.

Benzema will be hard to replace too - especially as Jovic hasn't developed. Probably a position they might splash the cash in down the line (Haaland maybe if City/Juve don't get him first). They do have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo though in the wide forward positions who look like potential stars down the line so should be plenty of firepower overall.

It will be a transition but they still have enough quality in the squad to retain their place as one of the best teams in the world I think. Certainly their approach to spending on young talent has left them in a better position overall than Barca I think, who basically look like they need Fati and Pedri to carry the mantle once Messi goes.

Oooo...yeahhhh, ummm...I'm gonna have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.

But in all serious the kid is good but a huge liability when papa Ramos isn't around too lead him. He's definitely a good defender but not up there with the best(yet).

 

[AneRu]

I think another big spend up on huge talent will happen, but maybe not until summer 22. The likes of haaland, Camavinga, will all be brought in alongside an Mbappe or someone of that calibre.

I know they are Real Madrid and all but that's easily €300m or more. Undoable in this climate and with their huge stadium project in mind. One at a time maybe but certainly not in one go, they would drown in debt.

 

[Dare to Zlatan]

I know they are Real Madrid and all but that's easily €300m or more. Undoable in this climate and with their huge stadium project in mind. One at a time maybe but certainly not in one go, they would drown in debt.

Whilst normally I would agree, but we live in a world now where players and agents are earning extraordinary sums of money, and it’s got to a pay where no club can realistically afford to pay a fee as well as the salaries. What I’m getting at is you will likely see more free transfers, mbappes runs out in 2022....