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It will be Mourinhos greatest ever football achievement if he gets these serial bottlers over the finishing line to win an actual trophy.
 

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SAF won it 5 times in his 30 year career at United. For a manager that cleaned up domestically, the easiest trophy to win barely got won by him. It's evident that he didn't really care about it. He mainly used it for his youngster and squad/fringe players to get game time.



I did, when I am fishing for bites putting a x tends to rile them up a bit more. It's patronising :D
Fair :D
 

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Im pretty sure I didn't do that. What I did do was laugh at people claiming the charity shield as a trophy, not the league cup.

I haven't seen my team lift a trophy in decades, it would mean a lot.
Haha fair, I was just looking for bits and got a few. Did you not see them win the LC in 2009 btw?
 

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Mourinho is embarrassing his own legacy further in my opinion. Sending out his strongest team in the LC against Brentford and playing fairly negative football, having 2% more possession with your strongest team in a Semi final against a Championship team.

The LC is the Micky Mouse cup of English top flight and everyone knows it and he tries his hardest in it so that he can say he won a trophy everywhere he went. It's a trophy below his legacy level and shouldn't give him the ability to brag about winning it with Tottenham, but we all know he is going to milk it to pretend he is still the special one.
Thought he’d line up strong given Brentford have already knocked out 4 prem teams and have the longest unbeaten run in all divisions.

Quite sure Ole would would have done the same.
 

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United are a much bigger club than Spurs with higher standards and expectations. It's false to compere both on the same set of standards. I don't think Spurs fans will argue about this either.
 

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No, it was intentional. His foot does not match his pace or the situation, it's a concerted effort to lift his foot and put it into his shin for no apparent reason. It's the sort of nasty foul Suarez would get away with every week.
Righto - he is such a violent player too :rolleyes: he was trying to perform a bit of skill and slipped no question it was a red but it wasn't intentional. These things can happen you know and to compare him to Suarez just shows what a tool you are.
 

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United are a much bigger club than Spurs with higher standards and expectations. It's false to compere both on the same set of standards. I don't think Spurs fans will argue about this either.
Nobody would argue against that. Utd are the biggest club in England and one of the biggest in the world.
 

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That was 2007, now 14 years ago!
Both wrong. :lol:

I've been impressed with how Spurs have played v Man. City in recent years. Rode their luck at times but feels since their CL win they've got the mental edge in this matchup now.

Of course if Man. City bring their form from Sunday into this competition they win it but suspect they'll come unstuck and won't win it this year.

Man. United-Spurs would be very interesting final I think giving OGS chance to become trophy winning Man. United manager and get one over Mourinho in process so think that would be far more interesting final.
 

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I seem to be relatively alone in being fairly pleased Spurs won - purely as if we feck it against City we need someone to do them in the final.
 

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It will be Mourinhos greatest ever football achievement if he gets these serial bottlers over the finishing line to win an actual trophy.
Even though Juande Ramos did the same with a weaker team in a tougher league before?
 

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Mourinho is embarrassing his own legacy further in my opinion. Sending out his strongest team in the LC against Brentford and playing fairly negative football, having 2% more possession with your strongest team in a Semi final against a Championship team.
:lol:
What next? Pep should be embarrassed and retire because he won this trophy 3 times in a row?
 

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SAF won it 5 times in his 30 year career at United. For a manager that cleaned up domestically, the easiest trophy to win barely got won by him. It's evident that he didn't really care about it. He mainly used it for his youngster and squad/fringe players to get game time.
As I said he changed his opinion on it around the Chelsea era (2005). I'm pretty sure you can find a quote on how the league cup was becoming more competitive than ever at that time and he said it's a trophy we want to win. The fact that he won the majority of his league cup wins from 2006 onwards is proof of him taking it a bit more seriously, especially when the club reached the quarter final stage.

Can be a big trophy for Ole too as well as Spurs, both to kickstart new eras.
 

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As I said he changed his opinion on it around the Chelsea era (2005). I'm pretty sure you can find a quote on how the league cup was becoming more competitive than ever at that time and he said it's a trophy we want to win. The fact that he won the majority of his league cup wins from 2006 onwards is proof of him taking it a bit more seriously, especially when the club reached the quarter final stage.

Can be a big trophy for Ole too as well as Spurs, both to kickstart new eras.
Winning any trophy is good but you need to kick on and win something else otherwise it gets a bit lost in seasons you remember. Man. City are at the stage now as a club where "just" winning league cup isn't enough as they did last season. They've had 5-6 better seasons than that in last decade.

Mourinho in fairness always won another trophy in the three seasons after won LC. He might have to do that again as not certain at all Spurs finish top 4 given how close it all is.

Best example from Man. United past would be 05/06. league cup win but early exits in FA cup and CL. And not really in a title race.

Spurs fans aren't taking league cup but 5th in league and last 16 exit from europa......are they?
 

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Winning any trophy is good but you need to kick on and win something else otherwise it gets a bit lost in seasons you remember. Man. City are at the stage now as a club where "just" winning league cup isn't enough as they did last season. They've had 5-6 better seasons than that in last decade.

Mourinho in fairness always won another trophy in the three seasons after won LC. He might have to do that again as not certain at all Spurs finish top 4 given how close it all is.

Best example from Man. United past would be 05/06. league cup win but early exits in FA cup and CL. And not really in a title race.

Spurs fans aren't taking league cup but 5th in league and last 16 exit from europa......are they?
No we must get top 4 as minimum, with or without a cup. In my opinion anyway. Top 4 and a cup would be an incredible season for us.
 

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What next? Pep should be embarrassed and retire because he won this trophy 3 times in a row?
Yes he should be embarrassed. City brought him in because of his CL and league title pedigree not his domestic cup pedigree. They brought him in to win the CL and keep winning league titles not the bloody LC.


As I said he changed his opinion on it around the Chelsea era (2005). I'm pretty sure you can find a quote on how the league cup was becoming more competitive than ever at that time and he said it's a trophy we want to win. The fact that he won the majority of his league cup wins from 2006 onwards is proof of him taking it a bit more seriously, especially when the club reached the quarter final stage.

Can be a big trophy for Ole too as well as Spurs, both to kickstart new eras.
Or maybe the fact we had a much stronger overall squad. We also had good up and coming young players that were given their chance in the cup more than the league, such as Rafael, Fabio, Cleverly, Welbeck. Good young players and a bigger and stronger squad depth wise meant we could go further without flexing too much.
 

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Yes he should be embarrassed. City brought him in because of his CL and league title pedigree not his domestic cup pedigree. They brought him in to win the CL and keep winning league titles not the bloody LC.
Hope Ole does not "embarrass" himself and rightfully sends the U-23 team or is it U-18 for tomorrow's game?
 

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After Liverpool's defeat yesterday, I'd play the B-team tomorrow. No way I'd do anything else. City will do the same now.
 

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No we must get top 4 as minimum, with or without a cup. In my opinion anyway. Top 4 and a cup would be an incredible season for us.
Yep, that's fair enough. Certainly best season from Spurs for a long time and keeps Kane happy for another year.

Really fancy you in europa tbh given how you counter attack, will check the odds as league cup was pretty low even at QF stage so didn't bother.
 

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After Liverpool's defeat yesterday, I'd play the B-team tomorrow. No way I'd do anything else. City will do the same now.
Neither team will do that. If you need to throw a game, might as well do it on Saturday.
 

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Just hope it won't be a 50/50 team tiring important staters but doomed to lose. Either fully rest, fine by me, or go for it full strength, also fine.
 

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Neither team will do that. If you need to throw a game, might as well do it on Saturday.
Neither will care about the Cup games. The League games are imperative wins for both now. It won't be the first X!. Neither tomorrow nor on Saturday. Full-pelt on Tuesday.
 

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What next? Pep should be embarrassed and retire because he won this trophy 3 times in a row?
Not embarrassed but I doubt he really cares about it. I doubt any coach is 'embarrassed' about winning even the Intertoto or Club World Cup! The whole point of the league cup was originally to give teams knocked out of the FA cup a chance to win something and also for teams in the PL with no hope of EL qualification a fighting chance to get into Europe. There are now more 'good' teams (or rather teams with money) but it's never been a major honour and this season the only real spiciness is provided by the fact we will play City in the semi and then, should we win, Mourinho rather than the actual trophy itself.

English football has too many fixtures - PL, FA, CL/EL & Internationals are more than enough. League Cup should be kept but turned into something like the Olympics where you can only field a select number of senior players. I'd personally find that a lot more exciting, seeing players like Laird, Garner, Fish etc. and it would be great for football clubs to put players in the shop window, develop youth and get senior players match fit.
 

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Neither will care about the Cup games. The League games are imperative wins for both now. It won't be the first X!. Neither tomorrow nor on Saturday. Full-pelt on Tuesday.
Both will have at least 6 or 7 first choice regulars, probably more.
 

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After Liverpool's defeat yesterday, I'd play the B-team tomorrow. No way I'd do anything else. City will do the same now.


Doubtful. Stakes are too high. After all, the winner of carabao goes straight to UEFA conference league!
 

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The Carabao Cup is only as exciting as who you are playing against. I remember a few years back when we played City in the semi-finals and Tevez scored the winner against us in the first leg it was the absolute worst feeling. I kept telling myself "it's just the Carling Cup". But it didn't matter. We lost to City and Tevez was their hero on the day. Then we played the second leg and came back and won and it felt amazing. We went on to win the tournament that year and I can't even remember who we played in the final. But that come back win over City is what it was all about. So here we are again, in another semi-final against City with Mourinho's Spurs waiting in the finals. Make fun of this cup all you want but you will be hard pressed to find a better feeling than beating City and then getting revenge on Tottenham for the beating they gave us earlier this season...
 

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I didn't even watch the game. I went to bed early but I'm not surprised Spurs won in regulation time. Almost certain they would win the final now, Mourinho lives and breathes Cup final and he always win the league cup in his second season at any club for some reason. Can't call for our game. We seem to have City's number in recent years, but the league Cup is City's bitch and if they played like they did against Chelsea, we don't stand a chance. We
 

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Neither will care about the Cup games. The League games are imperative wins for both now. It won't be the first X!. Neither tomorrow nor on Saturday. Full-pelt on Tuesday.
No chance! Ole and Pep will both go full out to win the Caribou**

** the piss poor cup that supposedly nobody cares about
 

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Nah ... that would be the Champion's League final of 18 months ago.
I don't think anyone is falling for that coming from you.

Wait. Oh snap, I didn't know that, so they did in fact get all the way to the final and lose? Impressive. Ah, right that's probably also why PSG lured your former manager away after he expressed his desires to leave to step up and succeed, while you currently have Mourinho winning his biggest title against Brentford pretending it's the world cup 98. The final isn't even played and you all act like you wont bottle it. The ball is round and all that but come on, when knocked over a bottle can only roll sideways. Getting to the final means nothing if you lose when you get there. Going to the beach is pointless if you leave without a tan. Going to prom - leaving without the girl. Leaving your ex - coming back to her. It all means nothing if you end up in the same place as always and you will, Mourinho will cash his check go to the beach, the prom and back to his ex before he wins a trophy at Spurs.