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It will be Mourinhos greatest ever football achievement if he gets these serial bottlers over the finishing line to win an actual trophy.
FairSAF won it 5 times in his 30 year career at United. For a manager that cleaned up domestically, the easiest trophy to win barely got won by him. It's evident that he didn't really care about it. He mainly used it for his youngster and squad/fringe players to get game time.
I did, when I am fishing for bites putting a x tends to rile them up a bit more. It's patronising
Haha fair, I was just looking for bits and got a few. Did you not see them win the LC in 2009 btw?Im pretty sure I didn't do that. What I did do was laugh at people claiming the charity shield as a trophy, not the league cup.
I haven't seen my team lift a trophy in decades, it would mean a lot.
Trust me we're not psychologically scarred from losing by 5 goals when we were playing with 10 men for over an hour and still tried to come at you.Yep. And they'd be psychologically scarred from the 1 - 6 thrashing last time out.
Thought he’d line up strong given Brentford have already knocked out 4 prem teams and have the longest unbeaten run in all divisions.Mourinho is embarrassing his own legacy further in my opinion. Sending out his strongest team in the LC against Brentford and playing fairly negative football, having 2% more possession with your strongest team in a Semi final against a Championship team.
The LC is the Micky Mouse cup of English top flight and everyone knows it and he tries his hardest in it so that he can say he won a trophy everywhere he went. It's a trophy below his legacy level and shouldn't give him the ability to brag about winning it with Tottenham, but we all know he is going to milk it to pretend he is still the special one.
That was 2007/8, now 14 years ago!Haha fair, I was just looking for bits and got a few. Did you not see them win the LC in 2009 btw?
Is that the one where some little bitch dropped like he'd been shot after somebody brushed him?Yep. And they'd be psychologically scarred from the 1 - 6 thrashing last time out.
Righto - he is such a violent player too he was trying to perform a bit of skill and slipped no question it was a red but it wasn't intentional. These things can happen you know and to compare him to Suarez just shows what a tool you are.No, it was intentional. His foot does not match his pace or the situation, it's a concerted effort to lift his foot and put it into his shin for no apparent reason. It's the sort of nasty foul Suarez would get away with every week.
Nobody would argue against that. Utd are the biggest club in England and one of the biggest in the world.United are a much bigger club than Spurs with higher standards and expectations. It's false to compere both on the same set of standards. I don't think Spurs fans will argue about this either.
Both wrong.That was 2007, now 14 years ago!
I don’t want to be relying on Spurs for that.I seem to be relatively alone in being fairly pleased Spurs won - purely as if we feck it against City we need someone to do them in the final.
My thoughts as well mateI seem to be relatively alone in being fairly pleased Spurs won - purely as if we feck it against City we need someone to do them in the final.
I seem to be relatively alone in being fairly pleased Spurs won - purely as if we feck it against City we need someone to do them in the final.
For Tottenham, the Carabao Cup genuinely is the World Cup... so why not.Nah, we will have a howler, loads of chances, terrible finishing, Mourinho 1-0, he'll celebrate like he won the world cup.
Even though Juande Ramos did the same with a weaker team in a tougher league before?It will be Mourinhos greatest ever football achievement if he gets these serial bottlers over the finishing line to win an actual trophy.
Mourinho is embarrassing his own legacy further in my opinion. Sending out his strongest team in the LC against Brentford and playing fairly negative football, having 2% more possession with your strongest team in a Semi final against a Championship team.
As I said he changed his opinion on it around the Chelsea era (2005). I'm pretty sure you can find a quote on how the league cup was becoming more competitive than ever at that time and he said it's a trophy we want to win. The fact that he won the majority of his league cup wins from 2006 onwards is proof of him taking it a bit more seriously, especially when the club reached the quarter final stage.SAF won it 5 times in his 30 year career at United. For a manager that cleaned up domestically, the easiest trophy to win barely got won by him. It's evident that he didn't really care about it. He mainly used it for his youngster and squad/fringe players to get game time.
Nah ... that would be the Champion's League final of 18 months ago.For Tottenham, the Carabao Cup genuinely is the World Cup...
How old are you may I ask? I thought you were about 30 ish, don't know why I assumed that haha.That was 2007/8, now 14 years ago!
Sadly I'm 44How old are you may I ask? I thought you were about 30 ish, don't know why I assumed that haha.
Winning any trophy is good but you need to kick on and win something else otherwise it gets a bit lost in seasons you remember. Man. City are at the stage now as a club where "just" winning league cup isn't enough as they did last season. They've had 5-6 better seasons than that in last decade.As I said he changed his opinion on it around the Chelsea era (2005). I'm pretty sure you can find a quote on how the league cup was becoming more competitive than ever at that time and he said it's a trophy we want to win. The fact that he won the majority of his league cup wins from 2006 onwards is proof of him taking it a bit more seriously, especially when the club reached the quarter final stage.
Can be a big trophy for Ole too as well as Spurs, both to kickstart new eras.
No we must get top 4 as minimum, with or without a cup. In my opinion anyway. Top 4 and a cup would be an incredible season for us.Winning any trophy is good but you need to kick on and win something else otherwise it gets a bit lost in seasons you remember. Man. City are at the stage now as a club where "just" winning league cup isn't enough as they did last season. They've had 5-6 better seasons than that in last decade.
Mourinho in fairness always won another trophy in the three seasons after won LC. He might have to do that again as not certain at all Spurs finish top 4 given how close it all is.
Best example from Man. United past would be 05/06. league cup win but early exits in FA cup and CL. And not really in a title race.
Spurs fans aren't taking league cup but 5th in league and last 16 exit from europa......are they?
Yes he should be embarrassed. City brought him in because of his CL and league title pedigree not his domestic cup pedigree. They brought him in to win the CL and keep winning league titles not the bloody LC.
What next? Pep should be embarrassed and retire because he won this trophy 3 times in a row?
Or maybe the fact we had a much stronger overall squad. We also had good up and coming young players that were given their chance in the cup more than the league, such as Rafael, Fabio, Cleverly, Welbeck. Good young players and a bigger and stronger squad depth wise meant we could go further without flexing too much.As I said he changed his opinion on it around the Chelsea era (2005). I'm pretty sure you can find a quote on how the league cup was becoming more competitive than ever at that time and he said it's a trophy we want to win. The fact that he won the majority of his league cup wins from 2006 onwards is proof of him taking it a bit more seriously, especially when the club reached the quarter final stage.
Can be a big trophy for Ole too as well as Spurs, both to kickstart new eras.
Hope Ole does not "embarrass" himself and rightfully sends the U-23 team or is it U-18 for tomorrow's game?Yes he should be embarrassed. City brought him in because of his CL and league title pedigree not his domestic cup pedigree. They brought him in to win the CL and keep winning league titles not the bloody LC.
Yep, that's fair enough. Certainly best season from Spurs for a long time and keeps Kane happy for another year.No we must get top 4 as minimum, with or without a cup. In my opinion anyway. Top 4 and a cup would be an incredible season for us.
Neither team will do that. If you need to throw a game, might as well do it on Saturday.After Liverpool's defeat yesterday, I'd play the B-team tomorrow. No way I'd do anything else. City will do the same now.
Neither will care about the Cup games. The League games are imperative wins for both now. It won't be the first X!. Neither tomorrow nor on Saturday. Full-pelt on Tuesday.Neither team will do that. If you need to throw a game, might as well do it on Saturday.
Not embarrassed but I doubt he really cares about it. I doubt any coach is 'embarrassed' about winning even the Intertoto or Club World Cup! The whole point of the league cup was originally to give teams knocked out of the FA cup a chance to win something and also for teams in the PL with no hope of EL qualification a fighting chance to get into Europe. There are now more 'good' teams (or rather teams with money) but it's never been a major honour and this season the only real spiciness is provided by the fact we will play City in the semi and then, should we win, Mourinho rather than the actual trophy itself.
What next? Pep should be embarrassed and retire because he won this trophy 3 times in a row?
Both will have at least 6 or 7 first choice regulars, probably more.Neither will care about the Cup games. The League games are imperative wins for both now. It won't be the first X!. Neither tomorrow nor on Saturday. Full-pelt on Tuesday.
More, Ole will pick his best 11 and Pep will tooBoth will have at least 6 or 7 first choice regulars, probably more.
After Liverpool's defeat yesterday, I'd play the B-team tomorrow. No way I'd do anything else. City will do the same now.
No chance! Ole and Pep will both go full out to win the Caribou**Neither will care about the Cup games. The League games are imperative wins for both now. It won't be the first X!. Neither tomorrow nor on Saturday. Full-pelt on Tuesday.
I don't think anyone is falling for that coming from you.Nah ... that would be the Champion's League final of 18 months ago.