Always with the false dichotomy.
2021 American Civil War
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Metaphorically, right ?To anyone confused, I kicked The Docs arse and Olly recorded it and put it on YouTube.
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Don't tell him but Snowjoe had a good point about socialism being seen as the antithesis of the american dream due to the wealth distribution principals. It could be as simple as that.
On a serious note, I really do wonder. Again and again you hear republicans mention the radical left or socialism. And I would really like to ask them what exactly are these radical or socialist ideas that they oppose so much.
Both take Monzo.
I'd say what we have is as safe if not safer. If I want to go to the bank and speak to a real person for some reason, I still use my card and pin. And maybe answer a security question.
Beginning to come out now:
This needs a 9/11 style investigation into the police force and intelligence community.
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This needs a 9/11 style investigation into the police force and intelligence community.
Secret Service needs a complete purge from the magats .
I would agree with that, leaving aside Trumpism and the nonsense that surrounds him, to me there is something wrong with people not bothering to turn up and vote in person. Yes I know there are valid reasons for postal votes; disability, working away from home at election time, etc. lots of other legitimate reasons. But if I was someone who had voted in person and then saw my candidate beaten predominantly by votes from people who could not be bothered to get off their back-sides and go to the polling station, I think I would be upset too.
I am not talking about fraud or attempted manipulation of votes, I just feel attending the polling station is a public demonstration of support for your country, regardless of who you choose to vote for and everyone should be obliged to turn up to vote in person if they possibly can.
Global pandemics is the one your conveniently left out.
Yeah, if only there was reason to avoid mass gatherings, like , who knows , a ravaging pandemic maybe?
So what, votes by mail should be worth 3/5 a walk in vote to you? That number has a familiar ring to it and fits your mentality. Lets all go stand in line for 4 hours, missing work, so we can prove how patriotic we are. What a load of shit.
In the middle of a global pandemic, I think it's fair to respect the votes of people who thought it prudent to avoid polling stations and the hordes of gun waving mouth breathers who refuse to wear masks.
Go Benghazi all over their GOP asses.
Not just Secret Service. America's entire security apparatus...from police to military seems infested with this plague.
Do you think that it could be a turning point when it comes firearms laws? Those right wingers may have shot themselves in the foot with this because I wouldn't be surprised if some of their favorite liberties disappear in the coming months.
A lot of stuff is at the state level so probably not much. Some states could go from shall issue to may issue for carry permits, some might remove open carry but overall I don't see a lot happening in that space.
Yes but I mentioned it because its relatively centralised and has the most dangerous impact from a single madman there .
What a cnut. Always has been.
Is it centralized though? I though most SecServ (I just can't use SS, even if it looking scarily apropos) was scattered around the country?
I meant it has a centralized hierarchical structure, unlike the various police departments.
Standard practise when involved in a shooting I expect, or is it for something else?
Not a chance. They weren’t doing open carry, which is about the only thing they did right. There won’t be any added impetus from this to fight the NRA. Maybe the gravy seals won’t be allowed around state houses like they were in Michigan, but that’s about it.
This sort of popular worry is what spurs on ammo and gun purchases after mass shootings or a Dem being elected, but it never comes to fruition.
There are withdrawal limits from cash machines. In the UK unless you're with one or two banks it's punitive as hell, I'm limited to 600eur a day in Spain or 500gbp. When I was renting I used to have to go in to get the landlords cash and needed two forms of ID.
Quality control
No that is a convenient excuse, people will queue for food, for shopping, with proper spacing, and of course for vaccinations!
See above, queues can formed with proper spacing that do not present problems, just inconvenience
No, they should be worth nothing. if missing the personal turnout to vote is done merely for inconvenience, which is what you seem to be implying. Its not a load of shit, its 'sloth' you are advocating.
For citizens, being able to vote freely and in person is the basic requirement for any democracy, its a duty in many countries and thousands have died around the world to achieve that privilege. Missing work ... don't make me laugh!
A couple dozen five year olds were massacred in cold blood a few years ago, yet nothing happened. Public sentiment for common sense gun reform was at a high, maybe all time. Unfortunately there was nothing that happened in this insurrection that would remotely move the needle of public sentiment as much.
As someone above said, it might change the gun laws allowed near governmental buildings, but that’s about it unfortunately. If anything, it may increase open carry rights as the insurrection will only embolden the cosplaytriot politicians on the right to use it as a call for their ilk to want to open carry more.
Will you just feck off?
It's not a joke
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't live in the states. Our elections are held on weekdays. It is not a national holiday. Employers are not required to give you paid time off to go vote. Polls are only open for 12 hours (usually 7-7). Lets say a single parent has to get their kids to school, work a 9 hour day, pick up their kids and get dinner ready. Can you find a 4 hour block of time in that schedule to stand in line? For you to call that person slothful is outrageous.
This is just not true, at least in a country with 160ish million voters. While there’s always shenanigans in every voting cycle, there’s no large scale voting scam due to postal voting. There were some here, but they numbered in the teens nationwide.
It’s rightwing unfounded scare tactics that foment this ignorance.
Plus some states (ie Colorado) only have mail in voting and have had less than a handful of fraud instances. Nice to see the USA can export pretty much anything worldwide, even our bullshit.
I'm speaking in regards to election in my country. Not the US
well than apologies for my follow on post. Still applies for the US though.
Yes just like referring to some ones views as ' a load of shit'... if you dish it out be prepared to take it!
It’s wouldn’t be rocket surgery to get something like this up & running successfully.
Not sure where you live, but you make your populace sound like babbling idiots for not being able to get something like this up & running with little issue.
Yet others will have the grocery items delivered. Effectively shopping remotely, a bit like mail in voting.
You really have no knowledge of voting reality, do you?
Fixed that for you.
Chuck Schumer speaking and getting abused by Trumpers on CNN. No idea why he is doing it in the middle of the City.
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I had it as such, but ‘voting’ in to keep more on point.
Your correction is valid & welcomed.