[davidmichael]

It’s hard to explain but the fact I’m disappointed we only got a draw away at Liverpool makes me happy if anyone gets that ? If someone offered me a point before the game I’d have taken it but we should have got all 3 points and would have if not for Allison in goal.

 

[OLLY ORANGE]

Supprising team selection and formation. Hate seeing Pogba on the right even though he didnt do bad today. Rashford and Martial poor quality again and just didnt put a shift in today. Thought we hung on for 25 mins and dissapointed Ole didn't plug the gap or man mark Tiago whilst they were on the front foot. Gradually got back into the game as liverpool's press dropped off. Thought we were going to snatch it with the two efforts towards the end which would have been a big psychological blow for liverpool's title challenge.
Feels like we missed a trick and should of got a better result with that Liverpool make shift defence and their misfiring front three.
Thought Shaw and Fabino was the stand out performers.

 

[reelworld]

Did we really match them? I seriously doubt they are scared of us after that match. We played like we're their b*tches truthfully.

they were lucky to get a point. Have all the ball, but created very little. United had 2 chances that should be a goal. They had none

 

[ash_86]

Felt Pogba and Bruno switched themselves to tonight. Bruno was labored in procession and was giving away the ball and pogba was quick efficient and put in a shift. Game was tight and we could've nicked it. Good point this.

 

[van Nistelrooy]

Cavani would have obviously been caught. There’s no way he’s got the pace to finish that off. Was the right choice by Rashford as he must have expected to be able to burn Fabinho - can’t believe how quick he was to recover.

Obviously? Obviously?

How much would you be willing to sell your crystal ball for?

Cavani doesn't have the speed of Rashford by any means, but he isn't slow. With the right weighted ball through from Rashford, he would have only needed to sprint 5 yards or so more, with Fabinho backpeddling. Even if Cavani had taken a couple of touches to shift it on to his right foot, Fabinho would have been at risk of clipping his heels and giving away a penalty.

Rashford was greedy and chose a far more difficult option with Robertson and Fabinho on him. Another example of his poor decision making.

 

[Jonno]

Did we really match them? I seriously doubt they are scared of us after that match. We played like we're their b*tches truthfully.

We more than matched them. We were unlucky not to win the game. They could have played for another 3 hours without scoring. 1 long range save all game for DDG.

 

[Bulldog United]

The firmino shot he could have played in Robertson to be fair, but other than that we were comfortable

Yeah I agree. In the first half hour they looked like they might open us up, but I don't remember De Gea having to make any kind of difficult save.

Something seems off in the Liverpool camp. Hopefully there's some kind of civil war going on behind closed doors.

It's clear to me City are the justifiable title favourites and our biggest threat.

 

[Judas]

It’s hard to explain but the fact I’m disappointed we only got a draw away at Liverpool makes me happy if anyone gets that ? If someone offered me a point before the game I’d have taken it but we should have got all 3 points and would have if not for Allison in goal.

It's progress. It's how we used to feel. I was never happy with a draw there back when we were good. Always wanted to win.

I know I'm going to wake up pissed off we didn't win.

 

[Stevieboy]

Is it a better result for them than us? especially with all their players out, yes, if you’d asked most Utd fans would they of been happy with a point? I think most would say yes... but I’m just narked we didn’t take advantage of the fact that they were there for the taking.
But I suppose a point at Anfield, were Liverpool haven’t lost in God knows how in how long is a point gained I guess.....

 

[tjb]

Bruno is supposed to be part of the midfield, unfortunately he was awful

Agree mcfred are too limited on the ball thiugh

Bruno plays in a role where he is high up the pitch. He roams across the midfield and play in between the lines. Bruno wasn't awful, he just didn't have the time and space to operate, in addition to not being as accurate as usual. But the fact remains, the players supposed to make those passes forward, Mctominay and Fred or win back possession, were only capable of positioning themselves in front of the ball, a trend we have seen in every big game. People put it as Ole simply choosing to play defensively, it's not that, it's us having midfielders who do not have the capacity to actually do their job outside of harrying and putting their body in front of the defence. Liverpool had 18 shots, we had 7 with 66 percent of possession. That isn't the fault of Rashford or Bruno, that is on Mctominay and Fred. The issue we have is that they are expected to perform like this and are therefore given a pass for it

 

[ROFLUTION]

Did we really match them? I seriously doubt they are scared of us after that match. We played like we're their b*tches truthfully.

Of course we did. We had bigger chances, and they created almost nothing over the course of 90 minutes. If the match was to have a winner it shouldve been us. Pool were great at ball retention but not much else.

 

[Majima]

First few pages on rawk are usually their truest raw feelings. Many thought we had the better chances and they were lucky to get a point.

They were there for the taking, with a makeshift defence, and we never troubled them at all really. Our build up play was embarrassing. We starved our own main players of any support, instead of making them worry about us instead. The one time we went for them at the very end, they were immediately on the ropes, but it was too little too late by then.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Yeah I agree. In the first half hour they looked like they might open us up, but I don't remember De Gea having to make any kind of difficult save.

Something seems off in the Liverpool camp. Hopefully there's some kind of civil war going on behind closed doors.

It's clear to me City are the justifiable title favourites and our biggest threat.

They’re the best side with the best squad depth.

Just hoping that they have too many games in hand and struggle but I think I’m grasping.

Once they take the lead in the league I assume the narrative of this season ‘being a weird one’ ends.

 

[Bulldog United]

He was 50 yards from goal with 3 defenders on his tail.

A nothing event, infact the ref had blown before the pass was made and thats why our defenders didn't even try to get the ball.

Exactly it's embarrassing they even mentioned, let alone trying to make a big deal out of it. Liverpool gonna be Liverpool though.

 

[Cantona in disguise]

Did we really match them? I seriously doubt they are scared of us after that match. We played like we're their b*tches truthfully.

Sorry but that's utter rubbish. Yes the first half hour we were poor. The second half we were at least equal to them and should have forced a winner.

Rashford and Bruno didn't turn up today. If they had It could have been a different outcome.

 

[VivaRonaldo85]

Would have taken a point before the game but feel disappointed after it. Both defences were well on top. Shaw and Lindelof particularly solid for us and Fabinho is as good if not better than their normal centre halves.

Firmino missed a big chance for liverpool first half and Pogba missed united’s golden chance - when the ball landed to him there on his right foot I was absolutely convinced he’d bury that and in squirming sourness’s face too.

No disaster today but I do feel slightly like we’ve missed a good opportunity as we played the occasion rather than the team in front of us. Good day for City too annoyingly.

 

[Majima]

Check your head mate.

We just played a team unbeaten at home in something like 70 games. We hardly let them have a sniff.

We have always played tight at Anfield, likely always will.

I don't care about past history. Yes we played tight but at what cost, they had a makeshift defence and we never gave them any trouble whatsoever. We allowed Henderson and Thiago all the time in the world who ran rings around us all match. We had 30% possession, 50% less passes than them. They were vulnerable today, yet we absolutely bottled it.

 

[Bulldog United]

They’re the best side with the best squad depth.

Just hoping that they have too many games in hand and struggle but I think I’m grasping.

Once they take the lead in the league I assume the narrative of this season ‘being a weird one’ ends.

Games in hand + the Champions League gives me some hope they could end up with a fixture pileup. I think given the choice, Pep would sacrifice the league for the chance to win the CL. That's the best I can do right now.

At least it's simple for us - we 100% sacrifice the Emmerdale Cup to win the Premier League.

 

[Jaqen H'ghar]

Those with their knives out, calling our performance or the manager cowardly, would probably have been complaining more if we had gone gung-ho and lost. It would have been bottlers, naive, lack of tactical nous, etc. Some people are hard to please.

Also, I'll go against the popular consensus and say that our attack wasn't bad. None of them had a great game, but they did their defensive duties and came closer to scoring than Liverpool did.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Games in hand + the Champions League gives me some hope they could end up with a fixture pileup. I think given the choice, Pep would sacrifice the league for the chance to win the CL. That's the best I can do right now.

At least it's simple for us - we 100% sacrifice the Emmerdale Cup to win the Premier League.

I hope we do, as much as I’d love to win the eastenders cup, a league title challenge comes first.

 

[Suedesi]

They really weren't.

I don't watch Liverpool often, but they were piss poor compared to a few seasons ago. Front three was toothless, the fullbacks didn't create much all game, their press was tame and Shakira started the game. Oh and Henderson/Fabinho as CB. A team with more belief and a bit more quality would have put them to the sword.

 

[tjb]

Watch how our fans go to the Bruno and Rashford threads to be negative then praise Fred and Mctominay on their threads. Stop praising mediocrity when it's the reason we find it hard to win these games. Salah, Mane and Firmino simply had to be around the box to get opportunities. Bruno, Rashford, Martial and Pogba were forced to run from deep, with really intricate passes, difficult long balls and fantastic touches in difficult situations to even get a sniff of their goal. Even in a counter attacking situation, our passing from midfield was sparse and poor.

 

[Chicharo]

Fulham Wednesday.

Yeah, my mistake. Well, maybe we could try that one as well, or start him than sub him. But he definitely needs some rest

 

[crossy1686]

I don't watch Liverpool often, but they were piss poor compared to a few seasons ago. Front three was toothless, the fullbacks didn't create much all game, their press was tame and Shakira started the game. Oh and Henderson/Fabinho as CB. A team with more belief and a bit more quality would have put them to the sword.

They've been outperforming their mean for 18 months, this is how they should be based on all the stats, they simply cannot continue to be as lucky as they have been in previous seasons, it was unsustainable. This is still a team that won a CL and a PL however so they're not all of a sudden Fulham because they're not unbeatable any more.

Also, this bollocks about CB's needs to feck off. Midfielders can play CB, it's not that difficult for them, that's why Barcelona, Spain, and City have been doing it for years. Feck, even United have done it in the past with Carrick and Fletcher in there. You know why? Because the shitter you are on a technical level, the further back you go. You hear all the time about defenders that started out as strikers at youth level but got pushed further and further back once they reached a level where people were better than them. David May was a striker at school...

If being a defender is so hard then why do you never hear about people not being good enough to play defence so end up being a centre forward or centre mid instead?

 

[ColvaleGoa]

End of the, a good result.

But boy , does my heart drops s bit everytime we try and play out of the back.

Rashford needs to find his killer instinct. Well onwards and upwards. Let's smash Fulham who are in a good knick at the moment,,!

 

[Dash247]

Pogba and Shaw were great today. I'll take that point away at Anfiled. Overall I am happy we are still at the top of the table.

 

[Majima]

Whole back four were superb, as were the midfield. Hard for the forwards with so little of the ball, every mistake magnified. Overall an excellent team performance against a team that hadn’t lost at home in 3.5 years. Barring two excellent saves from their keeper, we’d have taken all 3 points.

Tactics spot on, excellent team performance. I’ve learned not to listen to the moaners.

I'm dumbfounded. I thought you was a decent unbiased poster. How can you possibly say the tactics were spot on? I agree the back four was solid, everything else ahead though was a complete and utter car crash of a performance.

Liverpool were there for the taking with their makeshift defence, and we never troubled them at all really. We allowed Henderson and Thiago all the time in the world who ran rings around us all match. I think we had something like 50~% passing accuracy in the first half from 30~% possession. 0 shots on target too.

Pogba and Bruno were way too far apart throughout, it's no wonder we couldn't create anything. I don't think they played more than 5 passes to each-other between them. The strikers had scraps to work with, Bruno and Pogba got no help and were swarmed every time they got the ball.

We starved our own main players of any support, instead of making them worry about us instead.

Yet you seriously believe our tactics today were spot on?

 

[Sweet Square]

Very solid result. You traditionally don't win the league by winning the big games, so a draw which keeps us top is decent enough.

On the positive side the defensive is starting to really take shape(Hopefully).

 

[Moonwalker]

If being a defender is so hard then why do you never hear about people not being good enough to play defence so end up being a centre forward or centre mid instead?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Sutton

 

[Feed Me]

It was good when Greenwood came on in the 87th minute.

 

[Toad]

It’s hard to explain but the fact I’m disappointed we only got a draw away at Liverpool makes me happy if anyone gets that ? If someone offered me a point before the game I’d have taken it but we should have got all 3 points and would have if not for Allison in goal.

That's football. Should have, could have, would have. We have had a few games like this, look at the Leeds game, we could have scored 10. It comes down to a few details in the match, Rashford setting up Cavani or Allisson in goal. It's probably one of those terms (disappointed) we need to put behind us because it does come from finishing and the final ball which we kind of lack with some players but I do understand what you are saying, it's nice to feel disappointed because we know we could/should have won but hopefully we work harder and start winning more when we deserve it. This probably makes less sense than yours to be fair

 

[stu_1992]

Big opportunity missed. I'll take a draw as it's usually a good result but in the context of the moment, I think we should be kicking ourselves over that.

I do not understand the decision to be ultra defensive and try to hit them on the counter in the first half. We all know their strength is their attack, their weakness is thier massively injury ravaged defense. Instead that tactic invited pressure on our defense, which itself is our weakest link. It also didn't help that we looked nervy as feck. Everything seemed super forced and rushed in the first half.

Thankfully we did settle down towards the end of the half and certainly in the second. We looked closer to the type of team I'd expect second half. Cavani should have been on at half time but I'm glad he came on eventually. Ultimately I think we did have thr best chances and it's frustrating to not have out at least 1 away. Especially as now the door is open for city and their 2 games in hand to be on top of the league.

 

[crossy1686]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Sutton

You can quote Dion Dublin as well if you like but there's always an exception to the rule!

 

[MancunianAngels]

Good point. Proven today we're in a title race for the first time in 8 years.

Performances and results against the bottom half will ultimately decide who wins the league.

 

[Moonwalker]

You can quote Dion Dublin as well if you like but there's always an exception to the rule!

I'm sorry, I thought I read 'never'.

 

[R'hllor]

Good point, performance piss poor, Sunday league stuff.

 

[MZX7]

Given the abysmal form of Rashford, Martial and Greenwood, we are lucky it was a goal less draw.

Bruno and Pogba could've nicked it for us.

Shaw, Pogba and Maguire were great. Bruno seemed frustrated. Cavani tried. Scott and Fred, blew hot, blew cold. Bissaka was alright.

Should've put up more of a fight in the first half, but will gladly take this point.

 

[Robertd0803]

Still frustrated but its a definite sign of progress that we are so frustrated with a draw considering in recent years we would have been delighted with a draw.

 

[Suedesi]

They've been outperforming their mean for 18 months, this is how they should be based on all the stats, they simply cannot continue to be as lucky as they have been in previous seasons, it was unsustainable. This is still a team that won a CL and a PL however so they're not all of a sudden Fulham because they're not unbeatable any more.

Also, this bollocks about CB's needs to feck off. Midfielders can play CB, it's not that difficult for them, that's why Barcelona, Spain, and City have been doing it for years. Feck, even United have done it in the past with Carrick and Fletcher in there. You know why? Because the shitter you are on a technical level, the further back you go. You hear all the time about defenders that started out as strikers at youth level but got pushed further and further back once they reached a level where people were better than them. David May was a striker at school...

If being a defender is so hard then why do you never hear about people not being good enough to play defence so end up being a centre forward or centre mid instead?

Liverpool are on a horrid patch, they haven't scored in the last 3 PL matches, drawn the last 4. Last season they had dropped maybe 2 points total at this point in the season. Those are the facts - whether it's "reverting to the mean or luck, or injuries or lacking hunger, or burnout, I don't know and I don't particularly care. You play the team in front of you and this Liverpool team were there for the taking.

Midfielders can play CB, that's true. O'Shea can play goalkeeper, it doesn't mean it's the optimal solution. If you can't see the obvious that Henderson and Fabinho are much worse than Van Dijk + Gomez/Matip no point in me trying to convince you otherwise.

 

[Okey]

Ok

Jaysus this is all seriously insightful stuff.

Ok. Thanks.