Had discussion in other thread saying he isn't one.
IMO he is ManUtd legend.
So how does CAF rate him.
@Damien can we have poll please.
IMO he is ManUtd legend.
So how does CAF rate him.
@Damien can we have poll please.
Is De Gea Man Utd Legend?
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He isn't a Man Utd legend. He's been phenomenal for us in some seasons, good in others , with some poor moments. I don't think that qualifies him to be a legend. Also, I think his performances recently taint the legacy somewhat.
Yes but feels like he peaked a little too early, especially for a goal keeper.
Not for me, i would pick Schmeichel and Van Der Sar over him all day long, true Manchester United goalkeeping legends.
Van Der Sar being the greatest Manchester United goalkeeper, Schmeichel whilst great, but was a bit eccentric at times like Mavarick in Top Gun, whilst Van Der Sar was like Iceman, calm/everything by the book/zero mistakes.
De Gea (at his best) was a good shot stopper, but was never someone you could fully trust on corners, almost never saves a penalty and always likes to punch the ball too much for my liking and there's always a mistake in him.
Van Der Sar being the greatest Manchester United goalkeeper, Schmeichel whilst great, but was a bit eccentric at times like Mavarick in Top Gun, whilst Van Der Sar was like Iceman, calm/everything by the book/zero mistakes.
De Gea (at his best) was a good shot stopper, but was never someone you could fully trust on corners, almost never saves a penalty and always likes to punch the ball too much for my liking and there's always a mistake in him.
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If we had won more in his time here he would absolutely be seen as a legend.
Unfair on him somewhat that for a large part of his stay here we haven’t been competitive.
Great keeper.
Unfair on him somewhat that for a large part of his stay here we haven’t been competitive.
Great keeper.
Wouldn’t say he’s anywhere near being a legend. Just a great keeper for us.
He'd only be a legend if we won multiple major trophies with him. We didn't. He's not.
His peak years coincided with our worst years.
If he’d been the monster he was between 2014-18 during a 4 year stretch in some of Fergie’s best teams he’d probably be considered a legend.
As it stands he’s not. And each season that passes at this lower level he’s been performing at hurts his status more.
If he’d been the monster he was between 2014-18 during a 4 year stretch in some of Fergie’s best teams he’d probably be considered a legend.
As it stands he’s not. And each season that passes at this lower level he’s been performing at hurts his status more.
Depends on your definition of a legend in my opinion.
He will go in to the pool of semi legend for me:
Legends - Class of 92, Ronaldo, Cantona, Rooney, Rio, Schmeichel, VDS, Vidic, Evra, Keane, Bruce etc (Not named them all)
Semi legends - De Gea, Valencia, Berba, Ibra, Van Persie, Ole? (Maybe in the full legend), Fletcher, Carrick etc (Not named them all)
He will go in to the pool of semi legend for me:
Legends - Class of 92, Ronaldo, Cantona, Rooney, Rio, Schmeichel, VDS, Vidic, Evra, Keane, Bruce etc (Not named them all)
Semi legends - De Gea, Valencia, Berba, Ibra, Van Persie, Ole? (Maybe in the full legend), Fletcher, Carrick etc (Not named them all)
I'd say so. He's high up on the appearances list, was player of the year, something like three or four times, always was in the PL team of the year etc; he's a bit unlucky that he's not been in great United sides, also he has peaked a bit young but overall I think he's a club legend.
Legendary status is got after performing in big games and winning things along with the team. Unfortunately, due to many reasons we have not been in such situations much.
He is a good keeper of course. And he has been wonderful for us. And it would have been a lot worse if we had an average keeper or worse a keeper merry go round in the last decade. But he saved our seasons a few times. Deserves his 4 time Sir Matt Busby award.
Maybe half a legend if that is a thing
He is a good keeper of course. And he has been wonderful for us. And it would have been a lot worse if we had an average keeper or worse a keeper merry go round in the last decade. But he saved our seasons a few times. Deserves his 4 time Sir Matt Busby award.
Maybe half a legend if that is a thing
No, not for me. But he’ll obviously be pretty high up the list when he retires/leaves and the dust settles.
I get van Persie, a bit, but Zlatan Ibrahimovic, a ‘semi-legend’ for Manchester United?!
If you were making an all time Man United legends team, would he start? Would he make the bench?
It all depends on the definition of course but I'd say it's a bit of a stretch.
Fantastic player when he was at his best of course.
It all depends on the definition of course but I'd say it's a bit of a stretch.
Fantastic player when he was at his best of course.
Our player of the season four times in five years and likely the best in the world at the time = deserved legend.
I dread to think where we'd be with an average keeper during those years.
I dread to think where we'd be with an average keeper during those years.
Yeah that’s definitely more a case of ‘legendary player who played for United’ than a ‘United legend’.
Zlatan had some fantastic moments here though.
Valencia and Ibra? Get outta here.
No.
Sorry but couldn't resist. Ole the player is definitely a legend, no question marks about it.
Think you only need to turn up to become a “legend” these days
He is absolutely a legend. It’s a shame his prime years were wasted with average teams otherwise he’d be respected much more by our supporters. One day someone with more time should look into how many points he saved us in those dire LVG years, it was a lot. His errors are overstated now only because of the standards he set in the past.
With that said, I think it’s time to move on from him. The club should try to get him to Juve or PSG so he could win more trophies. He deserves that chance.
With that said, I think it’s time to move on from him. The club should try to get him to Juve or PSG so he could win more trophies. He deserves that chance.
In the same bracket as Ole
Don’t want to blow Uniteds trumpet too much but we’ve had so many legends it’d be hard to use the would they start or be sub category. We’ve got more than a handful of forward legends.
That said, I don’t think De Gea would start or be sub in all time team here and he isn’t a legend either. Just a great keeper we’ve had we should be greatful of
Depends what you mean by "legend" really.
Some players seem to garner a certain status with fans for reasons that have nothing to do with their trophy hauls, while others win lots of trophies without quite earning their spot in fan's affections.
If that status is what we're talking about then yes, he is a legend. He was the one consistent shining light at the club during its worst years in generations, quite literally saving us from worse humiliation across multiple years on his own and comfortably being our outstanding player of that decade. Any right-thinking United fan would have a tremendous amount of respect and affection for him.
On the other hand, if by "legend" you're thinking of trophy hauls or asking whether he would get into our all time eleven then obviously not. By that definition you'd call him a "fan favourite", "club servant" something, though the distinction between those sort of terms is very vague.
Some players seem to garner a certain status with fans for reasons that have nothing to do with their trophy hauls, while others win lots of trophies without quite earning their spot in fan's affections.
If that status is what we're talking about then yes, he is a legend. He was the one consistent shining light at the club during its worst years in generations, quite literally saving us from worse humiliation across multiple years on his own and comfortably being our outstanding player of that decade. Any right-thinking United fan would have a tremendous amount of respect and affection for him.
On the other hand, if by "legend" you're thinking of trophy hauls or asking whether he would get into our all time eleven then obviously not. By that definition you'd call him a "fan favourite", "club servant" something, though the distinction between those sort of terms is very vague.
Haha no, of course not.
Legend is relative but at our club it requires being part of and continuing the legacy of winning trophies, the big ones. He's been a grand stopper though.
Edit - Changed my mind. There's more to it than this, including... tons of stuff I'm too tired to mention.
Legend is relative but at our club it requires being part of and continuing the legacy of winning trophies, the big ones. He's been a grand stopper though.
Edit - Changed my mind. There's more to it than this, including... tons of stuff I'm too tired to mention.
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never mind Gregg, Law, Best, Charlton, Robson etc etc and plenty more
football: est. 1993
Legend would be too strong. Legends aren't just good performers on the pitch, they have a bond with the club that goes beyond appearances and titles. In that way I'd call Schmeichel a legend but not Van Der Sar, even though they were probably equals on the pitch and even though I have nothing but respect and fond memories of VDS.
De Gea is more VDS than Schmeichel. An undoubtedly talented goalkeeper, and one who won the POTY award 4 times after all, so he's certainly among the best players we've had at the club. But the bond between the club and the player never seemed all that tight. It seems more respectful and appreciative rather than the kind of fierce, tribal loyalty that club legends evoke.
De Gea is more VDS than Schmeichel. An undoubtedly talented goalkeeper, and one who won the POTY award 4 times after all, so he's certainly among the best players we've had at the club. But the bond between the club and the player never seemed all that tight. It seems more respectful and appreciative rather than the kind of fierce, tribal loyalty that club legends evoke.
Every club has a similar number of legends, it's just the bar is very different from Man United compared to Rochdale!
A player winning a league cup for Man United is barely worth mentioning for you lot given the number of trophies you have won. The guys who did the same for Birmingham City are revered. It's all relative.
'Legend' gets bandied around too often these days, I don't think he is one but he's been a great signing. Add in he wanted to leave for multiple seasons and I think he pales in comparison to VDS and Big Pete.
Legend is a strong word.
De Gea has been brilliant.
Unfortunately he's not quite up there with the United Legends.
But again, Legend is a really strong word. He sure is one of the best non legends.
De Gea has been brilliant.
Unfortunately he's not quite up there with the United Legends.
But again, Legend is a really strong word. He sure is one of the best non legends.
I’m not sure I quite agree with that. Ask a Rochdale fan to name twenty legends of Theirs off the top of their heads? Maybe so.
that’s also got nothing to do with my post of refuting your way of working out a legend using first eleven or sub places
In my view he is. De Gea will go down as one of our greatest GK's and has spent nearly a decade at the club. 3-4 of those years he was the best GK in the world in a lot of people's eyes. He's had some incredible individual performances over the years some the best displays I've seen from any GK.
But that wasn't down to him. He still won a league title here and an FA Cup.
If trophies is all that matters then De Gea was unlucky that SAF didn't continue for 2-4 more years, he would have had 3 more PL titles.
Easily yes.
His recent drop in form shouldn't let people forget how good he's been for us.
His recent drop in form shouldn't let people forget how good he's been for us.
All depends on your definition. He’s been here a decade, been a world class keeper.
at most clubs that would define you as a legend, but he hasn’t won a great deal, and has to stand face to face with two of the greatest keepers of all time in VDS and Schmeichal.
he’s been a brilliant player for us - perhaps an apt comparison is RVN, who also performed brilliantly on an individual level, but didn’t win much with the team either.
at most clubs that would define you as a legend, but he hasn’t won a great deal, and has to stand face to face with two of the greatest keepers of all time in VDS and Schmeichal.
he’s been a brilliant player for us - perhaps an apt comparison is RVN, who also performed brilliantly on an individual level, but didn’t win much with the team either.
They definitely could if they're as much a fan as you or I are of Man United or Chelsea.
I know tons of Bournemouth fans for example (I moved down here a few years ago) and I'd never heard of most of the players they consider legends.
My "squad of legends" thing is pretty dumb, I'll admit that!
Reminds me of a comedian who said that legend is banded about too often.
legend is not coming back from the bar, and unexpectedly buying crisps for the table #legend
legend is not coming back from the bar, and unexpectedly buying crisps for the table #legend
Good points to argue the case, I still struggle to use the word legend with him though, he’s just been an absuloute star of a keeper for us we should be greatful we had during a shit time.
To think some don’t even consider Rooney a legend but then there’s arguments for DGea seems weird to me, I know they may not be the same posters, just shows how differently people judge a legend