Fair enough, following that logic there are about 11 players I'd expect more from who played against Everton (Shaw being the exception probably). But there are about 3-4 which mistakes led to us losing points against Everton and Fred is not one of them.I think because most of us expect more from our 47M midfielder than “kept the ball moving and helped us to keep possession.” That’s fine for a academy rotation player like McTominay but even he has more strings in his bow.
Agreed. He's proper shit tonight. Can't do one thing right.Can't pass, can't shoot, gives away idiotic fouls in dangerous positions every game. Expectations must be at an all time low if people genuinely are satisfied with his output for 50m.
And the worst part is he's probably been our most consistent midfielder over the last 18 months.
Don't rewrite history because he's been poor recently.Consistently rubbish yes
Expectations at this club have gradually been lowered with every passing year, since SAF retired, in fairness.Can't pass, can't shoot, gives away idiotic fouls in dangerous positions every game. Expectations must be at an all time low if people genuinely are satisfied with his output for 50m.
If his name is Freddy and he is English he would be playing in Championship at bestExpectations at this club have gradually been lowered with every passing year, at this club, since SAF retired in fairness.
A fecking shit island, admittedly.Absolutely no fault of his own tonight. He was a fecking island.
A fecking island of shiteAbsolutely no fault of his own tonight. He was a fecking island.
Oh come the feck onIf his name is Freddy and he is English he would be playing in Championship at best
Is the island a waste dump ?Absolutely no fault of his own tonight. He was a fecking island.
I think that’s a little harsh but yeah, he runs around a lot and that’s about it. I’d think you’d need so much more to be a Man United midfielder, but apparently some are really quite pleased with him.If his name is Freddy and he is English he would be playing in Championship at best
To be fair they would like a midfielder who can kick the ball.He should be at Coventry or the likes.
Not anywhere near the calibre of player that United need in the midfield
If we had a wonderfully balanced midfield, we would be capable of creating chances for our strikers.Even if we had a wonderfully balanced central midfield our strikers have barely had a shot in the last 3 games. That’s the major problem.
our forwards create nothing for each other. Nothing. Think about it. That’s literally their main job. Yes a slow or predictable midfield can impact chance creation but their main job is to get the ball to the forwards. They do get the ball to the forwards and then nothing happens.If we had a wonderfully balanced midfield, we would be capable of creating chances for our strikers.
We don't have that, so we don't create chances.
Fred being one of the worst culprits.
I understand people defending him, and perhaps criticism of him goes too far. But when you have people going on about how good he is and posting his passing stats to say he’s a top midfielder - it’s just incomprehensible. I don’t think any top half team would want him.I think that’s a little harsh but yeah, he runs around a lot and that’s about it. I’d think you’d need so much more to be a Man United midfielder, but apparently some are really quite pleased with him.
Especially as our attack is struggling and the team in general, needs more creativity.
This is true.To be fair they would like a midfielder who can kick the ball.
Our forwards create nothing because we have a nonexistent midfield, so Greenwood & Bruno drop deep into our half just to pick up the ball, meanwhile Cavani & Rashford are making runs all match and nobody (Fred) is capable of playing the passes to find them. Hell, Maguire is more often than not having to become a playmaker because our midfield is so shocking.our forwards create nothing for each other. Nothing. Think about it. That’s literally their main job. Yes a slow or predictable midfield can impact chance creation but their main job is to get the ball to the forwards. They do get the ball to the forwards and then nothing happens.
Is the island a waste dump ?
A fecking island of shite
Yes, surrounded by a sea of shite. The lighthouse of Matic was the nearest landmark, but someone knocked that down and built it 4 miles in land.A fecking shit island, admittedly.
Yer but if when they get the ball the opposition is settled in their defensive positions then it’s much more difficultour forwards create nothing for each other. Nothing. Think about it. That’s literally their main job. Yes a slow or predictable midfield can impact chance creation but their main job is to get the ball to the forwards. They do get the ball to the forwards and then nothing happens.
this type of game doesn't suit him, we need someone with more creativity when playing teams like PalaceDire. Can’t be selected in games we’re likely to have more of the ball. So bad when we’re in possession
He scored goals playing for Van Gaal and Mourinho, two managers who didn't give the team that much freedom to express themselves. In terms of assisting and making incisive passes, I don't think Fred is capable of the threaded pass that assisted Mata's first goal at Juanfield. How many goals and assists does Fred have for us? Because I bet Herrera has more.Nonsense. Watching Herrera in games he was so basic. For psg he’s a bench player. When we played them he was constantly passing back or sideways. Fred regularly plays good whipped balls out to the wings and through the lines.
Mctominay is better than Herrera, it’s why he was sold, and yet, most people here would say that Fred is better than Mctominay.
Don’t get me wrong, I liked Herrera, very passionate and he did have the knack for the odd good goal but he added very little else.
He’s got his utility, but he’s better in games when we’re being overrun. He’ll be better against City than here. Tonight he was especially bad though, felt like he gave the ball away more than he found his man.Anyone thinking this was a good transfer is off their meds. Absolutely baffling.
Yeah, zero creativity on the ball. Tends to play to the opposition when it’s time to make a telling pass.He’s got his utility, but he’s better in games when we’re being overrun. He’ll be better against City than here. Tonight he was especially bad though, felt like he gave the ball away more than he found his man.