You forgot child abuse for revealing that his children aren’t fed for sporting indiscretionsAt one stage Ole was considered too nice - now he is sexist, racist and fighting with Mourinho
South Korean media reports that Son was racially abused by Ole
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Then they realise he plays for Spurs...
But then Son IS a far better player than Park ever was.
For anyone else reading the thread, Dr. (nee) Dwayne's post is an oblique reference to an actual city in China that the Simpsons writers knew about that is known for something that can't be posted on public internet forum viewed by children. Especially in a thread about Asians/race. It's in a province called Fujwan or Fujian.Ok thanks Linguo
it was a direct reference to your correction of my French grammar.I’m most concerned about someone considering James Woods to be ‘immortal.’
Yeah, a humble Park himself also said so. But in serious question, What is Son's legacy?
Winning player of the month, puskas award, winning a gold medal in U23 Asian games when he was over age, and scored a crap winning goal against Germany?
Even Shinji Kagawa has a better legacy than him. He is like a Russle Westbrook of Asia, great individual talent without any achivement for his team.
This is more like North Korean stuff than South Korean.
Ole is not racist. Some if his favourite children are sons.
The Koreans
A great bunch of lads
A great bunch of lads
Why would I do that?
It's the Latin declension plus a reference to your old handle.
Well, the French usage is similar, which is what I was joking about with Qui Bono.
And I'm well aware of my formative years as an internet doctor.
Of course it's similar. (Link for the non-French and/or Quebecois)Well, the French usage is similar, which is what I was joking about with Qui Bono.
And I'm well aware of my formative years as an internet doctor.
You left out the verb. Were you trying to incite an international incident. It's the language of diplomacy for a reason.
Anyways, let's get back to the spirit of the thread, in which we are trying to incite an international-
Mon dieu.
to be fair I am originally from western Canada originally so winding up the Quebecois is a requirement.Is it true BC stands for Bon voyage, cash.
Boring cnuts, actually; bunch of trail mix eating hippies out there.
I think you make a good point about the subjectivity affecting the judgement of players, especially when there is so much football going on that even your average avid football fan can only watch so many games a week, so a lot of the time when it comes to judging players (especially ones in a league that you might not watch as much) there is a lot of jumping to conclusions based on a small sample size. I've never actually spoken to anyone who uses xG as one of their main metrics when it comes to judging a player (though I have no doubt it's not uncommon) but that sounds pretty silly. I also agree about YT clips being a poor assessment tool, especially as they're usually just a compilation of highlight moments and give an unbalanced view of a player.
My problem with trophies being used as the primary assessor is that it ignores far too much contextual evidence. It is objective but I think it's better for comparing teams than it is individuals. Andy Cole and Shearer are a similar age and played in the same position, if you were to compare both their trophy hauls one would think that Cole was the much better player, but despite it being something like 10-1 to Cole I think the vast majority would rate Shearer as the better of the two (no disrespect to Andy he was class and is underrated in his own right).
Just the mentioning of Son’s name is racist. Even if talking about his own son.
Son has not eaten since the match.
Noah or Heung-min?
100% against racism but not feeding your kids doesn’t come under racism. Ole should do them for defamation of character!!!
It’s kind of hilarious that Son isn’t even been talked about in the last page but politics .
Anyway he’s ok
Anyway he’s ok
Calling someone out for being a pussy isn't racist it's just stating the facts.
I think he was. Ole is the king of throwing shade.
It’s the way things are nowadays. Go look at the Salah thread on here. People rightly called him a cheat and someone claimed it was islamaphobia.
Who's saying that? Everyone is just agreeing Jose is a twat and trying to deflect away from the real problem of his absolute shite management of Tottenham.
Plus the news station weighed in with even more bollocks than Jose did.
Ahahahahaha that is hilarious. We expect anything in this world nowadays.
I don't think anyone is blaming Jose. We all know why he did it - I am mostly impressed that he could sit there with a straight face and say what he did. A lot of things Jose has said has been disgraceful - this was not
When it says in the news that a player has been racially abused, I think it often means that players who are not white have been abused (e.g. on social media), not necessarily that this abuse was of a racist nature per se - I.e. that the abusers may be racially motivated even if they don’t use racist language. Perhaps that is the angle here.
What a load of trollop if I were United I would take this directly to them by putting Ole and the Clubs name in Slander, I don't for anyone no matter colour or race condone racism of any kind and those who have racially abused Son on Social Media should be dealt with. However, I would be embarrassed to be a South Korean if I witnessed one of my own going down in the manner Son did and taking 10 men to bring him up, sack embarrassed - Ashamed. For someone who had to do military service does that show how weak their service actually is when someone like Vidic who also did military service in Serbia from what I have read and this thing that happened to him like being slapped much harder than the hand that Slightly HIT son when playing against Drogba. That for me defines a person and Son is a despicable excuse for a person if that is his reaction to being slightly hit in the face. Would he do it in real life, no.Article Title: Son Heung Min scores 14th league goal...Abused Racially
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손흥민이 두 달 만에 기다리던 골 소식을 전해왔지만, 웃을 수 없었습니다.
We have waited two months to be able to report on another Son Heung Min goal but this isn’t a matter where we can smile.
상대 팀 맨유 팬들은 물론 감독에게도 인종 차별을 당했는데요 토트넘 구단은 진상 조사에 착수했습니다.
He has received racial abuse from opposition team Manchester United fans as well as the manager (Solskjaer). Tottenham have announced an investigation.
김기범 기자가 보도합니다.
Reporter Kim Ki Beum has more.
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손흥민은 전반 40분 선제골을 기록했습니다.
After 40 minutes of the first half, Son Heung Min scored the opening goal.
2월 웨스트브로미치전 이후 무려 2개월 만에 터진 리그 14호 골.
It has been two months since his last goal at West Bromwich and brings his league total to 14.
하지만 기쁨은 이보다 앞선 논란의 장면으로 희석됐습니다.
However, more than happiness, the scene turned to one of alarm.
전반 38분 맨유 맥토미니가 손흥민과 경합 도중 손을 썼고, 골이 들어갔지만, 비디오판독을 통해 반칙이 선언돼 득점 무효가 됐습니다.
After 38 minutes of the first half, Manchester United player McTominay (T/N: if you phonetically sound out how his name is spelled in Korean it comes to “Mac-To-Mi-Nee”) fouled Son Heung Min with his hand. While a goal was scored, it was ruled out due to the foul by VAR.
느린 화면으로 보면 명백히 손흥민의 얼굴을 가격했습니다.
If you watch the scene in slow motion, you can clearly see Son Heung Min’s face being struck.
그러나 이 상황을 할리우드 액션이라고 본 맨유 팬들은 손흥민의 SNS에서 인종 차별적 발언을 퍼부었습니다.
This spurred Manchester United fans, who watched this scene, to racially abuse Son Heung Min on social media.
"다이빙한 중국인" "개고기를 먹는 사람" "코로나 바이러스를 퍼뜨린" 등 심각한 표현이었습니다.
“The diving Chinaman”, “Dog meat eater”, “You spread COVID” are some examples but there were more severe ones.
심지어 맨유 솔샤르 감독마저 상식 이하의 발언을 해, 모리뉴 감독과 언쟁을 벌였습니다.
Even Manchester United Manager Solskjaer made the following remarks, which resulted in an argument with Mourinho.
(T/N: Below are comments you can find from the post-match interviews that I’m translating back from Korean to English)
[솔샤르/맨유 감독 : "내 아들(son)이 그랬다면 저는 먹을걸 주지 않았을 겁니다."]
[Solskjaer/Manchester United Manager: “If my son did that, I wouldn’t give him food.”]
[조제 모리뉴/감독 : "솔샤르 감독이 그런 말을 한 것에 너무너무 놀랐습니다. 손흥민은 솔샤르보다 나은 아버지를 둔 것이 다행입니다."]
[Jose Mourinho/Manager: “I am very, very alarmed by Solskjaer’s words. It is a good thing Son Heung Min has a better dad than Solskjaer.”]
손흥민의 선제골을 지키지 못한 토트넘은 맨유에 3대 1로 역전패했습니다.
Son Heung Min’s Tottenham were unable to protect the lead losing 3-1 following a comeback.
[손흥민 : "이기지 못한 경기는 언제나 실망스러우니까요... 뭐라 할 말이 없습니다."]
[Son Heung Min: “It is always disappointing to lose a game… I don’t know what to say.”]
토트넘 구단은 경기 뒤 공식 SNS를 통해 맨유전 인종 차별에 대한 진상 조사를 할 것이라고 밝혔습니다.
Following the Manchester United game, Tottenham announced on social media that they would be launching an investigation into racial abuse.
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This has been KBS News Kim Ki Beum.
You could say the same for Harry Kane, and lots of other players. He's still a way better striker than, say, Divock Origi, who's got a PL title and CL to his name. It's not his fault Tottenham or England hasn't won anything. I'm not saying team achievement doesn't mean anything, but it's not the only or primary thing. You can't judge an individual player on a result that 10 other players are equally responsible for.
A lawyer has apparently gone on record and stated that the comment is racist:
Racism for what..
It might be fat shaming or something to do with body image but with race come on.
This is getting lost on me really, racism is clearly not good in any shape or form but I just fail to see what this is about..
We should declare public support for North Korea after this. The Red army shall prevail!
Pre-season tour in North Korea
It is like a parent finding out their child cheated and looking for every excuse under the sun to avoid acknowledging it.
Cheated and still failed the exam.
If by that you mean pre-season ballistic missiles test launching, then feck yeah!