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So let me get this right then the winners of that trophy were always going to play the European Cup winners instead of the UEFA Cup onesBecause we won Cup Winner's Cup that year
So let me get this right then the winners of that trophy were always going to play the European Cup winners instead of the UEFA Cup onesBecause we won Cup Winner's Cup that year
Yeah, that was the rule back in those days.So let me get this right then the winners of that trophy were always going to play the European Cup winners instead of the UEFA Cup ones
Cheers for clearing that up and we have lost our last two of these finals ironically both to UEFA Cup winners as wellYeah, that was the rule back in those days.
TBF, Stoke and Burnley have both qualified for Europe in the last decade. Their style of play is hardly reflective of the technical quality in the PL.Granada over the two legs just show a really bad image for la liga.
I know what you mean and normally I'm rolling my eyes but two or three of the refs we've had in the Europa League have been genuinely awful.Guys, what proportion of games do you all seem to come away from having definitely seen a biased/agenda driven/incompetent referee? Because there comes a point where they only consistent factor in this seemingly endless list of bad decision making is you.
Well, it’s not about quality. I can’t tolerate their dirty plays and acting. They did too much, too often and apparently they are master of it. It really ruins the game.TBF, Stoke and Burnley have both qualified for Europe in the last decade. Their style of play is hardly reflective of the technical quality in the PL.
Most of the top leagues have some smaller teams who overachieve for a while, usually with an ugly, pragmatic style. I don't think it reflects bad on La Liga - just on Granada and their managers tactics.
Oh, absolutely, they're horrible to watch. Just like any team managed by Pulis are horrible.Well, it’s not about quality. I can’t tolerate their dirty plays and acting. They did too much, too often and apparently they are master of it. It really ruins the game.
I agree. But a lot of people probably will get an impression and then develop into a bias. That’s how it normally ends up with.Oh, absolutely, they're horrible to watch. Just like any team managed by Pulis are horrible.
I was just saying one team with a horrible style doesn't reflect bad on the whole league - it just reflects bad on that individual team and, usually, the manager who is adopting the ugly style / tactics.
That is actually the only thing I can enjoy from watching this game.Watching VDB get 45 minutes today reminded me just how good he is, he really has been unlucky with game time this season.
Ball retention when its tight, lovely first touch, weighted well time passing and getting in space for a team mate. Its all top quality. we have to find a way to get him on the pitch more often,That is actually the only thing I can enjoy from watching this game.
Anyone claiming bias and agenda in refs is obviously over reacting. However, the refs in the Europa have been shockingly bad.Guys, what proportion of games do you all seem to come away from having definitely seen a biased/agenda driven/incompetent referee? Because there comes a point where they only consistent factor in this seemingly endless list of bad decision making is you.
We only watched it under duress. There's no chance an Ipswich fan watched that shit is there?Not really sure why you're here, but you mustn't have watched the game, especially the parts where he booked Pogba for being fouled, or the part where Diallo got kicked over while through on goal.
I think a dynamic three man midfield can bring the best out of him.Ball retention when its tight, lovely first touch, weighted well time passing and getting in space for a team mate. Its all top quality. we have to find a way to get him on the pitch more often,
We have a whole 7 days off before that. We won't know ourselves.Another busy schedule ahead.
Sunday April 25th - Leeds (A)
Thursday April 29th - Roma (H)
Sunday May 2nd - Liverpool (H)
Thursday May 6th Roma (A)
Sunday May 9th Aston Villa (A)
What's his actual position though? One thing I've noticed is that on our team he is really slow.Watching VDB get 45 minutes today reminded me just how good he is, he really has been unlucky with game time this season.
I mean we are a very good side, as much as the general sentiment around here would have you think otherwiseIronically games like this make me think we are a very good side. Brushing aside decent teams like that whilst never getting out of second gear in the tie. So much control even when they had a couple of chances.
Honestly? He’s a poor mans Muller. Quality around the box and excellent at spacing and intelligent runs and touches. Good technically, but he’s better utilized off the striker than as a true midfielder. Problem is that position doesn’t really exist with how our team is constructed.What's his actual position though? One thing I've noticed is that on our team he is really slow.
They had three tournaments then. European Cup ( now CL) European Cup Winners Cup(winners of the national FA Cups) and UEFA Cup then the top two teams in the league depending on the country. They combined the Cup Winners Cup and the UEFA Cup to make the Europa League.So let me get this right then the winners of that trophy were always going to play the European Cup winners instead of the UEFA Cup ones
Lazio won the the last ever Cup Winners' Cup the year (1999) they beat United in the Super Cup.Cheers for clearing that up and we have lost our last two of these finals ironically both to UEFA Cup winners as well
Must be tough for you guys at the moment. Mid table mediocrity in league one (with some fat dinosaur scouser in charge) whilst Norwich are smashing up the Championship playing sexy football for a second time in three years. (Ps, gotta love Daniel Farke and his large portion of German sausage) can’t wait for his interviews on Motd again.Guys, what proportion of games do you all seem to come away from having definitely seen a biased/agenda driven/incompetent referee? Because there comes a point where they only consistent factor in this seemingly endless list of bad decision making is you.
Legend, you are!Must be tough for you guys at the moment. Mid table mediocrity in league one (with some fat dinosaur scouser in charge) whilst Norwich are smashing up the Championship playing sexy football for a second time in three years. (Ps, gotta love Daniel Farke and his large portion of German sausage) can’t wait for his interviews on Motd again.
If coming on here to wind up United fans makes you feel better then so be it.
Carry on
Putting aside money, prestige and so on, Europa does has its merit. Players like Amad, James, VDB, Tuanzebe, if team fully fit, will never get any European games apart from FA. Take VDB as example, although a decent performance in 2nd half, I doubt he will start in semi-final when Bruno and Pogba are available. So the group games are good for the kids and players knocking at the door.Can we please never play in EL?
Most of the real cup winners already qualified for Champions League, so some lucky minnows in the cup final got qualified to this competition.Traditionally, the Cup Winners Cup was more highly regarded than the UEFA Cup, but that changed in the second half of the 90s.
This is worth a cheeky tenner with the bookiesCould be an all English final in both European competitions. United v City in the European super cup.
Nah these guys were left in the Woolworths bargain bins for the past 25 yearsLike a bargain bin at Lidl the refs in this comp
It was incredibly bad and the fact that it has competition for worst decision of the game (non foul on Amad / them getting a foul for ???? when Telles hit the free kick / the lino giving them a throw in when Axel clearly kicked out it all of 5 yards in front of him) says something about the standard of officiating yesterdayThat yellow card on Pogba is one of the most ridicolous decisions i've ever seen.
The refs in the prem are bad, but its even worse in Europe
Ha ha, fair point! I won’t lie, being an Ipswich fan has probably only been enjoyable from 1978-1981 and 1999-. 2001. Have a bit of sympathy. Also that RVN dive & penalty in your 1-0 win at Portman Road all but relegated us in 2002. Now THAT was a bent, incompetent Utd fan of a referee! Shit, maybe that’s why I don’t like you.Must be tough for you guys at the moment. Mid table mediocrity in league one (with some fat dinosaur scouser in charge) whilst Norwich are smashing up the Championship playing sexy football for a second time in three years. (Ps, gotta love Daniel Farke and his large portion of German sausage) can’t wait for his interviews on Motd again.
If coming on here to wind up United fans makes you feel better then so be it.
Carry on
István Kovács