Ceferin seems quite upset.
European Super League
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1/10 for effort on the sign
Anyone commending PSG for not joining should take a second to remember Qatar owns Bein Sports and is hosting the next Fifa World Cup.
The minute that tournament is over and they can get out of their CL tv deal, they'll be signed up to this thing quicker than you can say "war crimes, shmor crimes".
The minute that tournament is over and they can get out of their CL tv deal, they'll be signed up to this thing quicker than you can say "war crimes, shmor crimes".
You gotta love the Glazers! Great bunchCan't wait to see all those lovely dividend payments go to the owners
This is the only way. If UEFA/FIFA do not kill this cancer now they never will, so they need to go nuclear or they will not stop it.
Any reason why its worded like that ?
It does not matter who you think is a "big boy". This will come down to the law and UEFA/FIFA etc will use all lawful methods to stop this. That means, if lawful, they can cut out the clubs from all other competitions etc.
I do believe UEFA have enough money for some decent lawyers, don't you?
And that's what this is all about. Fans, history, the rest of football can all go to hell; their stock value is up $250 million overnight. Football has been heading this way in the Sky/Champions League era, and now here we are.
I love all this talk about banning players and what not. As if they had any input in these decisions.
The NWO Cup
?Yes some Tifo image that has been doing the rounds on twitter. Some seem to believe that the game wasn't unfairly skewed until the announcement of the super league.
That has nothing to do with the point made.
What a mess that is! If we're punished for this, our players and fans will be livid. So disappointed in our club, the Glazers (and all other owners) are such greedy scumbags
Without wishing to bash Americans here, this looks like a very U.S.-driven plan doesn't it. Regional competition with no threat of demotion or expulsion.
And in Florentino they've got the perfect puppet. Loves the glamour, hates Uefa... bet the Glazers and FSG love him.
Will be interesting where this ends. Imagine we'll see an end to transfer fees. Franchises? Wouldn't bet against it.
And in Florentino they've got the perfect puppet. Loves the glamour, hates Uefa... bet the Glazers and FSG love him.
Will be interesting where this ends. Imagine we'll see an end to transfer fees. Franchises? Wouldn't bet against it.
I'm sure a communistic league would go swimmingly!
We'll find out just how swimmingly as soon as the super league kicks off.
Bloody hell, since Ed and Glazer took over the club nothing positive come out from them.
Man utd being so badly run for so many years and now this. If this goes through its time to stop supporting this shits.
Man utd being so badly run for so many years and now this. If this goes through its time to stop supporting this shits.
No but its the biggest leverage FIFA/UEFA have. Players will be getting anxious now with Euros coming up and WC. Last for some. And in general, if you can only play in closed shop competition, then after a while the novelty will wear off. To get to the clubs is to sanction the players, unfortunately.
It is being bankrolled by JP Morgan.
Fair comment.
No they can't, FAs would have to leave the confederation and no FA, which in most if not all countries are directly linked to governements, will follow the money grabbers.
Honestly, I cant help but feel this whole Super League thing is being blown well out of proportion. The uproar surrounding it seems so OTT for what it actually is.
OK, so some of the biggest teams in the world want to leave the Champions League/Europa League and participate in a new competition instead. I don't see what is so outrageous about that. Is it because they will be earning more money? If so, would you not be against it if they were to earn less money than they are now?
As a fan, I would much rather see Man Utd vs Barca, Liverpool vs Madrid etc when european competitions are played rather than Man Utd vs Shaktar or Madrid vs Slavia Prague. There are going to be opportunities for other teams to qualify, albeit less available slots so it will be harder to qualify but this will only mean the calibre of opposition entering the competition will be better for it.
I also fail to see why any organisation except UEFA are against this so intensely, and cant help but think they are saying what people want to hear. UEFA are simply upset that their cash cows are looking to leave them and play in a new competition. Lets not forget that UEFA are due to announce their own planned changes to the Champions League format, which is bring it one step closer to being a super league itself, except they will be in control of the revenue so all is good in their world.
Although we dont know much about the new proposed super league, I do feel that once they have taken off and gain traction they would be wise to introduce some sort of qualification / 'relegation' / 'promotion' so that they can strike a balance between the biggest fan base and best performing teams.
OK, so some of the biggest teams in the world want to leave the Champions League/Europa League and participate in a new competition instead. I don't see what is so outrageous about that. Is it because they will be earning more money? If so, would you not be against it if they were to earn less money than they are now?
As a fan, I would much rather see Man Utd vs Barca, Liverpool vs Madrid etc when european competitions are played rather than Man Utd vs Shaktar or Madrid vs Slavia Prague. There are going to be opportunities for other teams to qualify, albeit less available slots so it will be harder to qualify but this will only mean the calibre of opposition entering the competition will be better for it.
I also fail to see why any organisation except UEFA are against this so intensely, and cant help but think they are saying what people want to hear. UEFA are simply upset that their cash cows are looking to leave them and play in a new competition. Lets not forget that UEFA are due to announce their own planned changes to the Champions League format, which is bring it one step closer to being a super league itself, except they will be in control of the revenue so all is good in their world.
Although we dont know much about the new proposed super league, I do feel that once they have taken off and gain traction they would be wise to introduce some sort of qualification / 'relegation' / 'promotion' so that they can strike a balance between the biggest fan base and best performing teams.
Hate to say it, but the scousers have us beat on the old protest materials.
I mean we're all seething, imagine being in charge of the competitions right now. I'd be throwing chairs
At this point I'm on their side, hope all these clubs including our own are humbled. Dock points and let Leciester West Ham fight it out for the title.
ESL; english as a 2nd language.
Twitter is full of people actually believing the Postillon (German equivalent of The Onion) article about Schalke joining the Super League after Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig refused. Hilarious times, if it wasn't so infuriating
As much as I'd like to see it happen, I can't see how UEFA or the PL could punish the clubs involved right away. They have only announced an intention, and haven't technically broken any laws or rules w/ respect to their actions.
Indeed. But do you really think that the Glazier family hasn't already thought about this.
They are businessmen. And the only thing businessmen understand is - will it affect the bottom line.
Nothing hurts them more than reduced revenue.
Every one of the 6 greedy vultures need to be hit with a drop in season ticket sales resulting in a big reduction in actual v planned revenue.
And nobody buying their club merchandise. Another big earner.
They have shown how greedy they are and that it is all about money.
Fine. We should make it about money as well. Keep our money in our pockets, not theirs.
12 clubs seceding from the union!
I bet Schalke fans would snap their fecking hand offTwitter is full of people actually believing the Postillon (German equivalent of The Onion) article about Schalke joining the Super League after Bayern, Dortmund, and Leipzig refused. Hilarious times, if it wasn't so infuriating
ESL is such a cowardish name. Use proper names for the tournament: European League Soccer or European Series, or European Football League.
Nice guys finish last.
Business comes down to doing what's best for yourself and morales go out the window when it comes to money.
At the moment, correct.
Ah yes, the company that received the most bailout money in 2008 when they were one of the primary actors in crashing the global economy. If any company belonged in this shitshow it would be them.
Stop this nonsense. Do you actually know why PSG is staying put for now?
2022 Qatar.
That is pretty much the only reason maybe coupled with the hard cap of spenditure on player wages/revenue at 50 percent.
They won't cancel the CL or EL this year by the way. The losses in broadcasting revenue will be enormous.
So Portugal would play without Ronaldo, Bruno Fernandes, Benardo Silva, Cancelo, Felix, Jota, Trincao, Ruben Dias and Cedric....
You could probably claim they're "bringing the game into disrepute" or "damaging the integrity of the competition"
They'll have some wording that they can fit it into.
The governments have an option they just don't have the balls and are too bent to actually care. These football clubs are century old cultural institutions with generations of memories and sentimentality tied to them so an Act of Parliament could be passed banning foreign and corporate ownership of these clubs forcing these cnut owners to sell off to fans with the first priority obviously going to ST holders and club members.
They don't because in part they are part of the layer that's looting at the expense of the common man. The players, pundits, managers and other stakeholders are only opposing because they haven't seen the size of the cheques the ne League will be signing. There is a real possibility that after all is said and done we will see FIFA and individual FAs betraying UEFA, I figure there is a lot of horse trading going behind the scenes and this unity by the associations won't last considering the amounts involved.