Wonder if we can get Gill back temporarily while we sort out the mess.
Who replaces Woodward?
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Unless they re from or in Wisconsin yes.
Peter Kenyon
The idea Gill has a magic bullet is so amateurish I don't know where to begin criticizing it. Gill was successful because of who was in charge on the pitch. Period.
It better be Tarquin Cholmondeley III .
Yeah but if you read the MEN report where it talks about the three main candidates for this job I don't like how it says that both Arnold & Baty had a good relationship with both Woodward & the Glazers. Think this pretty much confirms that it's going to be one of these two who end up getting appointed
What have you got against Gill? We need someone with finance expertise to replace Woodward, so accountants, bankers etc. are probably what we'll be getting and not footballers who know a bit of management like VDS or god forbid Neville. Running a global marketing machine is much harder than doing a job as CEO of Ajax.
By all accounts Gill leaving had a pretty huge impact on how things were run at United because we've made a bunch of management mistakes since then. Most of the job as CEO of such a big organization is making sure you have the right people in charge and listening to good advice and I think Gill would be able to figure that out.
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Isn't Richard Arnold already in charge of our commercial department?
Gill had a successful period but by the time he left, our academy and scouting system was in terrible state. Due to Sir Alex genuis, this factor is often overlooked. Pair Woodward with Sir Alex and you have the same on pitch results that Gill had.
Woodward gets a lot of stick but post 2015 we have made a lot of changes at Academy and Scouting system that are showing result right now.
Who gives a shit.. Nothing will change until this lot fecks off..
So you're saying get Fergie in then ?
It’d be nice to have him in charge, and it would certainly make sense in terms of fan appeasement, it won’t happen though. It’ll be someone from a business background who takes over, not football.
I thought he was on GMB on ITV
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-to-replace-ed-woodward-at-manchester-united
Glazers are understood to prefer an internal appointment as they’re less likely to stir up a hornets’ nest.
Glazers are understood to prefer an internal appointment as they’re less likely to stir up a hornets’ nest.
As I thought no real replacement for an actual football thinking person for CEO. Just like for like replacement most likely Arnold.
Don't know what to say about that choice of photo.. it's pretty funny, but is that an acceptable jounalistic standard?
Did anybody really expect any different?
Nothing will change until the head of the snake is cut off
Nothing will change until the head of the snake is cut off
Literally just more moneymen, they can't even hide it. Gives reason for protests to continue
Gill presided over the “no value in the market” era & oversaw Valencia & Owen replacing Ronaldo and Tevez. Fergie’s genius has conned people a bit when it comes to Gill. We actually spent much more under Woodward than him. He’s the last person I would want.
Gi' it Kenyon till end o't season.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...s-interested-in-sporting-director-luis-campos
"And so, out of principle, Campos finds himself without a club - but with his eye firmly on the Premier League and a sporting director role at one of its top clubs.
He has told Sky Sports News that he's "ready now" for what he sees as the best league in the world adding: "In modern football the presence of an experienced sporting director is fundamental."
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"The Premier League is considered one of the most competitive in the world. As a competitor, I would obviously like the challenge."
Sky wrote an article linking us with Luis Campos, former DoF in Monaco and Lille. Would be a good addition, but don't see it happening.
Any thoughts ?
"And so, out of principle, Campos finds himself without a club - but with his eye firmly on the Premier League and a sporting director role at one of its top clubs.
He has told Sky Sports News that he's "ready now" for what he sees as the best league in the world adding: "In modern football the presence of an experienced sporting director is fundamental."
...
"The Premier League is considered one of the most competitive in the world. As a competitor, I would obviously like the challenge."
Sky wrote an article linking us with Luis Campos, former DoF in Monaco and Lille. Would be a good addition, but don't see it happening.
Any thoughts ?
It's not that simple though. Feel like a broken clock having the same discussion over and over here but my thesis is:
Fergie and Gill both leaving left a massive void in terms of skills / experience in the club's management.
We've then managed to stumble around quite a bit (one Suarez a year, social media obsession, hire / fire coaches without a coherent strategy etc. etc.), made a bunch of mistakes and finally settled on a management structure that works under Woody.
The sponsorships / marketing were excellent, scouting / first team transfers have been good (for the past 2-3 yrs), youth system has improved significantly (remember: ex Utd pros were sending their kids to the City academy ~2014/15 ish).
We have a settled, functioning system now. If you get a new guy in who insists on doing things his own way, all of this progress might be undone. What we need is someone to continue building on our progress, not some guy who wants to change everything again. We also need someone who can make deals (sponsorships or otherwise) and deal with the finances because that was where Woodward was very good.
I'm pretty sure Gill won't come back but he checks all the boxes for me. Finance expertise, familiar with how the club is run, Knows Woodward (woody was his understudy) and probably picked him out for the CEO post etc.
We make so many internal appointments you'd think we're a nepotistic family business
Anyone who can fix the roof and build a descent pisser with showers will be more effective.
Sponsorship deals are irrelevant, if you can't manage the resources for absolutely basic things.
Sponsorship deals are irrelevant, if you can't manage the resources for absolutely basic things.
An internal appointment that will not only refuse to rock the boat, but also be happy to go along with whatever shit the puppet master decides.
It's not going to be an appointment that changes a course of direction, so nothing to get excited about.
It's not going to be an appointment that changes a course of direction, so nothing to get excited about.
Did they change it? I don’t really see what’s funny
Surprise surprise it’s looking like this is going to be another internal promotion - reports that accountant Richard Arnold is being eased into Woody's chair.
I mean Arnold has done really well running our commercial arm, he took over from Woodward for that position too. I'd say give him a shot before we judge. Talking about Judge, he's the guy we probably need to replace, his contract negotiations have left us unable to sell most of our deadwood.
As did Woody before him - that seems to be the training ground now
Or he was able to get us pretty good deals on Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo? Selling Dan James for £30m? Would we have paid 30million quid for a Daniel James?
The deadwood problems started earlier -- when the leadership was more clueless and less strategic.
It’s genuinely weird how some folk talk so confidently about these people as if they have the slightest clue as to what they do on a day-to-day basis.
I haven’t got a fecking scooby and neither do any of you.
I haven’t got a fecking scooby and neither do any of you.
Because money making is the Glazer's priority.
I was expecting Woodward to do a u-turn to be honest.
I know that Richard Arnold has the face of a prick
I trust my instincts and I know he’ll be a prick
He’s not been spoken well of on certain podcasts either. He’s apparently not even a football fan
Not surprising. I think everyone deep down knew when Woodward's departure was announced that Dick Arnold would be his replacement.
As long as the Glazers make money I don’t think the success of the football team actually matters?