We'll see. RIght now it's just ARs and similar bad rifles but they might kick me out of Toronto for owning handguns, too. I will attempt a human rights case if so.
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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I’ll send you my Glock if you start to go through withdrawals.
cheers.
Pretty muchSo, this is a high risk felony stop too?
https://www.wfla.com/news/bodycam-v...OviXI08hYRR6gWSX3oKXpvp9u399zVBcq8RjTkaRLfwns
https://www.wfla.com/news/bodycam-v...OviXI08hYRR6gWSX3oKXpvp9u399zVBcq8RjTkaRLfwns
I mean.. assuming this in the article is legit, then yes?
“Police say they found four weapons in the vehicle. The stop ended with three felony arrests.”
But, is that admissible? That doesn’t seem to be what the pull over was initially for.
It reads to me that he was initially pulled over for littering. Does it require multiple cops to do this?
I don’t know honestly. I’m just saying technically it actually did end in felony charges.
You're right that the victim does not respawn. But that goes for the cop too. And it's not just "a guess" as to danger. It's all the facts known at the time and the totality of the circumstances that lead up to deciding to shoot to protect your life or someone else's.
Let's say for whatever reason the law changes tomorrow and LEOs can no longer shoot unless a gun is pointed at him with finger on the trigger. And the cop shall, by law, give a verbal command to "don't shoot me" before unholstering his own firearm. Even if such a law were to be implemented throughout the country charging cops with murder if they fail to do so, there will still be similar types of these police shootings. In that flight/fight, self-preservation moment you are going to do whatever you must to save your life.
I hear ya.
But I don’t think you can back engineer rationalization for something. Doesn’t seem like the cops knew about the weapons when the car was initially pulled over.
It just seems a tad excessive for a littering pull over to need multiple cops to do it.
It is nice that the resident cops on here typically answer something pretty quickly. I do appreciate the input.
I'd guess that these guys were known to the cops and they were looking for an excuse to pull them over.
At my department? a handful for sure. At most 1-2%
I imagine that would go into what they think the person littered. I.e. when you get pulled over for littering by tossing drugs out of a car, etc.
If it were here, I know for a fact that’s what our county sheriff would have his officers claiming.
You could be right.
That doesn’t sound legal. Seems like something that could be proven very quickly in court.
Thankfully the age of cameras is upon us.
I can totally see an upstate sheriff advising his deputies to do just that, especially in the sticks.
Not totally cop related, I had someone use my information to generate a false ID card up there after I moved away. I went back to figure out what was going on. I showed the clerk my license, birth certificate, bills, etc. to prove it was me. She agreed & got a deputy involved. I then asked if I could see the picture on the clerk’s computer screen to see if I could recognize who did this. Both the clerk & a deputy sheriff to whom I gave my information said that I couldn’t see the person due to privacy regulations.
My info was verified by the clerk, yet I couldn’t see who illegally made an ID for the other person’s privacy reasons.
That was bizarre to me.
Littering is a crime, so if they did it, they gave the officers probably cause for the stop.
It would also be on dash cam.
Key takeaway though... if you did litter, and it’s on dashcam, you don’t really have a leg to stand on considering littering is illegal.
I get this, just seems like the resultant finding could be deemed inadmissible. But, I’ve never even seen a full episode of ‘Law & Order.’
The personnel involved in a pull over for a littering violation seems a tad excessive, though. Kind of goes back to what was discusses earlier about needing multiple cops for stops.
A 2nd officer’s body cam footage of the Columbus, OH shooting has been released.
I can’t comment to the number of officers that responded, but I couldn’t see the stop resulting in finding firearms thrown out. The rules about searching your auto are very different than the rules about searching your home.
I did not know this.
Yeah, there’s an automobile exemption to search warrants. With regards to your constitutional rights, courts have ruled that you have less of an expectation of privacy in a car on a public road than you do in your own home.
But my glove compartment is locked and so is the trunk around the back, and I know my rights so you’re gonna need a warrant for that.
Thanks!
What a bitch.
I mean, I can’t search anything... but good luck with the cops on that if you’ve given them “probable cause”.
Dude....
They have lots of tricks to get into your car. You're really in a very weak position at a traffic stop if an officer wants to be a bastard.
What do you hide in there ?
Only @calodo2003 gets cool points.
Apologies to Jay Z. It’s been a long day.
Just signed a contract to sell my houseNo excuse.Apologies. It’s been a long day.
But congrats!
He was name dropped in that article I posted the other day. Dude is an absolute dick and nobody should be laughing at that
Don’t be dropping your fancy hippity hoppity rap lyrics here
I forgot all about this.
1) that’s fair
2) thank you kindly. Market going nuts means we will make a nice profit. It’ll all go towards paying off my wife’s NP degree and my master’s though (damnit)