Pep never changed his tactics against us. Pep tactics is exactly suited to ole counter attacking approach, which is why we are a torn in his arse.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Bit of both probably
Whilst I agree, can be more ruthless on his himself and his decisions. Been some shockers in Europe
I'm not gonna argue that we should have won tonight, we should have.
But we finished second, ahead of 18 other teams.
That doesn't just account for other teams failures, that also accounts for our improvement too.
To say you can't see improvement when you finish ahead of a team you finished behind is a bit strange!!
We clearly aren't, I fully agree on that. But at the same time we are not becoming the United of old with Ole in charge. I know it, you know it and everybody knows it even though they want to convince themselves otherwise. Ole would not survive at any other big club, it's as simple as that. But since we clearly have no ambition of winning anything, he will get his contract extended (probably already has, just waiting for announcement). We have the best team since SAF but at the same time the worst coaching staff and we are in this situation where we will be "challenging" for things but never win anything because when you get to the later stages of the cups, coaching matters probably even more than the players.
Did anyone still give any good example of a good management from him in crucial games ? Hmmm no I guess ?
Beginning of the end if I was to guess.
Reckon the delaying of the inevitable will occur for most of next season.
Can't see us winning any trophies next season so don't see how this will end well at all
Reckon the delaying of the inevitable will occur for most of next season.
Can't see us winning any trophies next season so don't see how this will end well at all
On paper, we should be beating them. The difference was coaching.
There’s only one person responsible for that and this is on him tonight.
There’s only one person responsible for that and this is on him tonight.
I don't use americanism like 'boomer'.
But yes age and experience gives you perspective. The good and bad times come and go - believe me this is not the bad times. We are taking the right road map back to success and although you and others have no patience - thankfully those around the club seem to get it.
We still haven’t addressed our set piece problems which have been a factor all season.
Sums it up well
The worst managerial performance I’ve ever seen in a big game. Pathetic. Cowardly.
Because there is this stupid belief that our players aren't good enough to beat 7th placed Villarreal and all the others. And we apparently have a good manager but he can't get more from the squad because they're so bad at football. Ridiculous.
I wouldn’t say we haven’t improved, just that this is as good as it gets.
Top 4 challenge, maybe a cup run, but ultimately rely too much on players turning up, and when you’re having an off day, (which we’ve had plenty of) you need a plan B. I don’t see that with Ole.
I would be more inclined to believe you and take on board what you're saying if it wasn't absolute bollocks.
One game does not define a season, a squad or a manager.
Finals are often cagey and scrappy games.
Yes United aren't at the top level yet, but we're closer than we've been for a while and 2-3 signings can make all the difference.
The hyperbole around Ole is laughable.
This is even worse than what he did to us in the group stages of the CL. I mean that game in Turkey was bad but this today took the cake
This is damning. A full year of him and his coaching team being completely unable to fix this issue. Him, Phelan, Carrick, the other one. Clueless.
I’m fairness they should reply. If you can dish it out you need to take it as well.
Vague and without a drop of context. Typical for someone that knows he's running out of arguments isn't it? It's not just "losing a final on penalties". It's losing to a VASTLY inferior side on penalties. It's sitting on his hands and not trying to win the game in regulation just to save his substitutions for penalty takes when they were clearly on the ropes. You're not fooling anyone with those empty blanket statements.
I suspect that might he the case. But if he can somehow persuade the Glazers to let him buy, say, Varane, Sancho and some fancy dan midfielder who can actually pass the pissing thing, I’d expect us to be a much better side and go closer. Irrespective of the fact that the manager looks to have maxed out whatever he has to offer. That’s the tricky thing. He’s right in that sweet spot of being good enough to offer some hope without ever really allowing many people turn that hope into expectation.
Thanks for @ing me for a thread where I made one post and it wasn't even about Ole.
Tonight was yet another example of why Ole is not a very good manager. Spin that how you like or whatever but it's a fact at this point. We've got more than enough evidence to prove it.
Such a pathetic managerial performance. Too scared to make a change, despite the players being run into the ground by the end of second half. And subbed Mason instead of Rash. What does Rashford need to do to get benched or subbed?
Same could be said of the entire season.
Same could be said of the entire season.
I'm thinking more in terms of a positive squad harmony. Players seem invested and happy. Basically I just don't want another Mourinho coming in and hanging them out to dry. Which probably isn't a lot to ask but our appointments have been so bad post-Fergie that's my standard now: 'manager isn't a dick'
He would even bottle it in the League cup final against Ipswich Town if it ever came to it
His in game management was very poor tonight.
Are you going to post this in every thread?
Dear @Giggsyking ,
First of all I havent been bullying anyone. I fully accept if you want Ole out for whatever reason. You know, I live in a democracy where everyones opinion should be listened to. But I understand if not everyone have that blessing.
Im Ole in. The progress is clear to see and Im looking forward to a new season with Ole in charge.
We need some new signings however, and Im pretty sure Ole would’ve subbed earlier if he Had Mahrez, Jesus,Aguero, Stones, Sterling and Gundogan on the bench. But thats not the case.
Seriously how old are you? What are you talking about? What answers?
Shut down the computer and let your emotions cool off little bit before asking such questions.
If you live long enough you'll accept that the good times come and go over the decades - learn to enjoy the ride. Getting pissed off and wanting to sack the manager whenever it doesn't automatically go your way is futile.
Give me one difference between the current United and Spurs under Poch whom posters here mock him for being a bottler and not having a winning mentality ?
Absolutely nothing.
Also a team who plays good but at the same time bottlers and don't have winning mentality.
We have become Spursed.
Absolutely nothing.
Also a team who plays good but at the same time bottlers and don't have winning mentality.
We have become Spursed.
Because that's not how football works.
If De Gea can score (or do his job and save) a pen you're probably not making that post.
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My only comfort is knowing he won't (shouldn't) last more than another season unless he wins something. So it's a win win.
Poch is a better manager than Ole. To say otherwise would be no matter of opinion but factually incorrect. Don't even entertain the cheerleaders.
Ok, humour me. What should Ole have done tonight?
Laughable management the night its on his head this result not the players.
Jury is out stick with him one more year or move on because this could be as far as he can take this current group of players.
Jury is out stick with him one more year or move on because this could be as far as he can take this current group of players.
Man Utd: Barthez, O'Shea, Ferdinand, Brown, Silvestre (Phil Neville 79), Veron (Beckham 63), Butt, Keane (Fortune 82), van Nistelrooy, Giggs, Solskjaer.
Subs Not Used: Ricardo, Blanc, Forlan, Fletcher.
Booked: Veron, Fortune.
Real Madrid: Casillas, Salgado, Hierro, Helguera, Carlos, Zidane, McManaman (Portillo 69), Figo (Pavon 88), Makelele, Ronaldo (Solari 67), Guti.
Subs Not Used: Cesar, Morientes, Flavio, Cambiasso.
Booked: Figo.
Attendance: 66,708.
Look at the subs. Kmt.
Subs Not Used: Ricardo, Blanc, Forlan, Fletcher.
Booked: Veron, Fortune.
Real Madrid: Casillas, Salgado, Hierro, Helguera, Carlos, Zidane, McManaman (Portillo 69), Figo (Pavon 88), Makelele, Ronaldo (Solari 67), Guti.
Subs Not Used: Cesar, Morientes, Flavio, Cambiasso.
Booked: Figo.
Attendance: 66,708.
Look at the subs. Kmt.
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