Next Spurs manager?

[Inigo Montoya]

Martinez seems a strange one.

Potter seems a great option for them. Maybe a year or so early as I think ideally they'd want to see how he pushes Brighton on from this progressive style towards being a more ruthless side that gets higher up the table. But in terms of potential, getting more out of players and a style it looks good.

He's taken Brighton as far as he can IMO. I know he's always been a fan of Everton and if Carlo continues to underachieve that would be a great shout rather than Spuds.

Levy seems to think that coaches are queuing up to sign. They may be but not for the reasons he seems to think

 

[Bastian]

I still believe they'll go after the Southampton manager, I think they're just waiting for things to settle before making a move

That would be the best option as it stands I think. Hasenhüttl has been managing Southampton with one hand tied behind his back, given how stingy those owners are. No depth, not even enough for a decent first XI and yet they used to be so well run. He might bring Ings with him and he'd be more likely than many others to build a team with the pot of gold they'll get from Kane.

 

[do.ob]

I know the Dortmund experience didn't go well in the end but I actually think off radar appointment that may work would be Favre as he's tended to do good work with likes of Nice and 'gladbach in the past and that's probably the level Spurs will be around next season and need to be built up again

I think Favre makes a lot of sense on paper. He did a pretty good job at Dortmund for two years. The biggest problem with him was that it seemed increasingly impossible to win silverware with him and his passive and risk averse style doesn't really fit Dortmund's philosophy. But neither should be a big problem at Spurs.
I just assumed that if they were going to hire him they would have done so by now, given he's been out of a job for half a year now.

 

[Abraxas]

He's taken Brighton as far as he can IMO. I know he's always been a fan of Everton and if Carlo continues to underachieve that would be a great shout rather than Spuds.

Levy seems to think that coaches are queuing up to sign. They may be but not for the reasons he seems to think

Has he really? I know the finances are not there and they could lose a few key players, that isn't good.

However the other side is they should have scored more goals. It suggests that through some smart recruitment they have enough about their play to finish better off than they did this year.

It suggests that if Potter doesn't get a job then he's onto a hiding to nothing next year and I don't think that's the case at all, they finished 16th. The only demand is avoiding relegation, and if they do any better than 16th it is tangible improvement and solidifying Brighton, which represents success for him. I think there is still some legs in Potter at Brighton.

 

[TheReligion]

Benitez

 

[Champagne Football]

In general yes... but not sure he would be good for Spurs in this situation. Spurs are a bit in a Situation line Arsenal - just a good manager won't cut it for them.
I feel that they need someone who will specifically fit in their situation. They might lose out on top 6 next season,again, if the transfer window does not go their way - even with a good manager.

Well the last time they appointed an up and coming manager from Southampton, they entered one of the most successful periods in their history.

When they went for the manager based on his record of winning 22 trophies, it was a disaster.

When Bayern appointed Flick, a lot of eyebrows were raised. But sometimes these off the radar up and coming managers turn out to be the best appointments.

I think Spurs would be doing very well to get a manager who has worked a lot with Ralf Rangnick, and who has a great record of developing youth. Southampton have placed huge emphasis on developing young talent, and it will take patience to develop fully. The likes of Nathan Tells, Walker-Peters, Salisu, Ward-Prowse, Diallo etc..... this despite the Southampton youth academy not being as productive in recent times as before, due to other clubs catching up with their youth set-ups.

 

[Botim]

I think Martinez would be a good shout if their only goal is (finally) winning a trophy. He's a good cup manager (see his exploits at Wigan, the Belgian NT), so he may well win them an EFL/FA Cup.

As a league manager, he will fall short of their expectations though.

 

[Powderfinger]

Well the last time they appointed an up and coming manager from Southampton, they entered one of the most successful periods in their history.

When they went for the manager based on his record of winning 22 trophies, it was a disaster.

When Bayern appointed Flick, a lot of eyebrows were raised. But sometimes these off the radar up and coming managers turn out to be the best appointments.

I think Spurs would be doing very well to get a manager who has worked a lot with Ralf Rangnick, and who has a great record of developing youth. Southampton have placed huge emphasis on developing young talent, and it will take patience to develop fully. The likes of Nathan Tells, Walker-Peters, Salisu, Ward-Prowse, Diallo etc..... this despite the Southampton youth academy not being as productive in recent times as before, due to other clubs catching up with their youth set-ups.

I agree with you. The problem is really Levy in the end.

The two most important things for Spurs right now are (1) accept that they're at the end of a cycle and need a big rebuild and (2) hire a top-level DoF with an eye for talent who can preside over that rebuild. Levy is too egotistical to do either and that is going to negatively affect everything about the manager he hires and the way he works with that manager.

 

[RoyH1]

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Spurs bound?

Why would he leave a winning club thats playing CL football for a perennial underachiever like Spurs? Yes, the money is much better but surely if Lille does well he can get a much juicier job than Spurs down the line?

 

[UweBein]

Well the last time they appointed an up and coming manager from Southampton, they entered one of the most successful periods in their history.

When they went for the manager based on his record of winning 22 trophies, it was a disaster.
.....

You are totally right, but....

I agree with you. The problem is really Levy in the end.

The two most important things for Spurs right now are (1) accept that they're at the end of a cycle and need a big rebuild and (2) hire a top-level DoF with an eye for talent who can preside over that rebuild. Levy is too egotistical to do either and that is going to negatively effect everything about the manager he hires and the way he works with that manager.

... as @Powderfinger says, the situation at Spurs is less than ideal. A squad that will deteriorate in the future, important players might leave or are unhappy - and Levy will probably want to get top 4 immediately.

The current Southampton manager is great - and he would do well at a Club like Man Utd, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Everton etc., but Spurs might be too tough, because also he has not that big team experience. Now, if there are many upcoming players at Spurs, but I do not know the situation there. Do they have a new Kane, Alli in petto?

 

[africanspur]

Levy was one of the first chairmen in the league to hire a DoF and we copped quite a bit of flak for it if I remember correctly.

I'd like to see us move back to that model. He's dropped the ball on the football side recently while focusing on the general big picture. That can't be allowed to happen again, regardless of the manager.

We're going to have to start a big rebuild.

Difficult to say @UweBein , especially as often you don't realise what you have in the academy. Pretty much nobody thought Kane was going to the next big thing while he was in the academy. One of my biggest criticisms of Poch was actually how he treated the youth teams when he was here, that needs to change with the next manager too.

 

[balaks]

Please be Conte...

 

[sun_tzu]

Please be Conte...

conte wants to leave inter because they will sell some of their better players and won re-invest all the money in the squad
Im not convinced spurs would be the best fit for him?

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I agree with you. The problem is really Levy in the end.

The two most important things for Spurs right now are (1) accept that they're at the end of a cycle and need a big rebuild and (2) hire a top-level DoF with an eye for talent who can preside over that rebuild. Levy is too egotistical to do either and that is going to negatively effect everything about the manager he hires and the way he works with that manager.

On this DOF thing you would think their is one standout candidate and I don’t think he is attached to anyone right now. Luis Ocampos. Built the Monaco team that beat PSG and has just been at the heart of a Lille team that beat PSG.

I think he’d be perfect for Spurs as no offence intended I feel they are in a bracket where they can’t quite compete for the top top talent but are in a place where they can offer players positions and times they might not get at your Cities, Chelsea’s and so on. Feel like their is a whole market of players the top clubs probably keep an eye on but can’t move for the player because of the scrutiny or pressure whereas Spurs would probably be more forgiving and a better fit. Lescister are a prime example of this model and Ocampos is a guy known for unearthing gems for very little and then clubs selling them on for big fees.

As for a manager, if that’s the road they wanted to go down they would need a coaches coach. Someone who will work with the hopeful talent there and brought in or through the academies. The infrastructure/facilities are there for Spurs to be a big deal.
Just feel like maybe they need to take a step back to go forward if that makes sense.

Martinez is probably a good shout to be honest.

 

[balaks]

On this DOF thing you would think their is one standout candidate and I don’t think he is attached to anyone right now. Luis Ocampos. Built the Monaco team that beat PSG and has just been at the heart of a Lille team that beat PSG.

I think he’d be perfect for Spurs as no offence intended I feel they are in a bracket where they can’t quite compete for the top top talent but are in a place where they can offer players positions and times they might not get at your Cities, Chelsea’s and so on. Feel like their is a whole market of players the top clubs probably keep an eye on but can’t move for the player because of the scrutiny or pressure whereas Spurs would probably be more forgiving and a better fit. Lescister are a prime example of this model and Ocampos is a guy known for unearthing gems for very little and then clubs selling them on for big fees.

As for a manager, if that’s the road they wanted to go down they would need a coaches coach. Someone who will work with the hopeful talent there and brought in or through the academies. The infrastructure/facilities are there for Spurs to be a big deal.
Just feel like maybe they need to take a step back to go forward if that makes sense.

Martinez is probably a good shout to be honest.

Please god no.

 

[UweBein]

Even Levy can't be that daft.

 

[The Firestarter]

Even Levy can't be that daft.

He appointed Jose so...

 

[Brophs]

Even Levy can't be that daft.

A weapons grade spoofer like Martinez will have Levy eating out of his hand. 18 year contract with an option for a further 47.

 

[Shipperley]

I would absolutely love it to be Potter, am very worried about the job he's doing at Brighton and have been since they appointed him.

 

[kingwaynerooney]

Spurs are doomed. New stadium. No chance of making it to the top 4. They are holding on to son and harry kane for what reason I don't know.

They won't lead then anywhere and the money they get from selling them won't lead then anywhere.

 

[No Love]

Pochback?

How do the resident Spurs fans feel about this possibility?

 

[balaks]

Pochback?

How do the resident Spurs fans feel about this possibility?

I love Poch BUT I don't think now is the right time for him to return. He needs a few years away to grow as a manager and get winning things. I do believe he will one day return as Spurs manager but if he comes back now I'll be disappointed because I don't think it will work.

 

[cjj]

Pochback?

How do the resident Spurs fans feel about this possibility?

Don't really see what's changed for it to be a good idea really.

 

[No Love]

I love Poch BUT I don't think now is the right time for him to return. He needs a few years away to grow as a manager and get winning things. I do believe he will one day return as Spurs manager but if he comes back now I'll be disappointed because I don't think it will work.

I’d agree with that, in fairness.

My initial reaction was that having Poch return would be an attempt to try to appease Harry Kane; however, he does seem rather adamant about wanting to leave this summer. I’m not sure whether Poch returning will have any impact on Kane wanting to stay, if that is indeed what Levy is thinking. Of course, it’s all conjecture on my behalf and I’m letting my imagination get the best of me.

 

[do.ob]

I love Poch BUT I don't think now is the right time for him to return. He needs a few years away to grow as a manager and get winning things. I do believe he will one day return as Spurs manager but if he comes back now I'll be disappointed because I don't think it will work.

Growing further would mean outgrowing Spurs though?

 

[saivet]

Unless PSG are planning to sack Poch this summer. I don't think it's a good move for Poch at all. At least see out your PSG contract and win the league title next season.

 

[balaks]

Growing further would mean outgrowing Spurs though?

I don't think so - he genuinely loves the club and I think he would always be interested in the job.

 

[royboy16]

I wonder will Poch go back to spurs and zizou to PSG?

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Amazing for them if they manage to get Pochettino back.

 

[do.ob]

I don't think so - he genuinely loves the club and I think he would always be interested in the job.

It just sounds a bit entitled to reject Poch right now, but then expect him to come back out of love after he's proven himself to be an elite coach.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

It just sounds a bit entitled to reject Poch right now, but then expect him to come back out of love after he's proven himself to be an elite coach.

Im with @balaks IF Conte is available we should do our best to get him, and the only way we get him is if we back him. If there is genuinely no backing we need to go for a up and coming manager, its that simple.

 

[balaks]

It just sounds a bit entitled to reject Poch right now, but then expect him to come back out of love after he's proven himself to be an elite coach.

I would love him back, dont get me wrong - I just am worried that now isnt the right time. If he comes back I'll just hope that things don't turn sour again because I couldn't go through that a second time.

 

[do.ob]

I would love him back, dont get me wrong - I just am worried that now isnt the right time. If he comes back I'll just hope that things don't turn sour again because I couldn't go through that a second time.

That of course I understand, I read your previous post as you rejecting Poch based on sporting merit.

Can you have a discussion without being condescending? If you can manage that it would be great, no one said we would reject Poch, he will be back at some stage just not now, your putting words in people mouth with the intention of being difficult.

What was condescending about my post?

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

To be fair. The only way to convince Kane to stay is by hiring Conte. And that might what we also need if we don’t want to see Man City signing Kane.

 

[Melbourne Red]

What was condescending about my post?

It wasn't particularly, from what I can tell?

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

That of course I understand, I read your previous post as you rejecting Poch based on sporting merit.



What was condescending about my post?

Sorry man, I read you post the wrong way and wrote that post, I didn't mean to post it. Apologies, deleted it now.

 

[Damien]

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Zidane also mentioned in the article.

 

[balaks]

Its looking more and more likely it will be Poch

 

[africanspur]

Its looking more and more likely it will be Poch

I love him....but don't think this is a good or right move to be honest. For either party.

 

[Judas]

Poch going back would be a worse move than Conte I think.