I'm not discrediting it all just feel utterly robbed of a run at him due to crappy technology in that Villa v Sheff Utd game, that call going in their favour was absolutely massive in hindsight and convinced it cost us this transfer sadly
Grealish To City? | City bid £100M
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oh well if Pep says City couldn’t afford it
feck me, he bangs that “we’ve got no money” drum every year. And of course he’s not gonna say “he wanted to go to United, wasn’t interested in joining us”.
Maguire told us that Pep wanted him, but he wanted United. End of story. City weren’t even in the bidding to pretend they couldn’t afford it.
Thats a blantant lie. A large section of Utd fans have been against Jack for a long time and SAF didnt break records to sign overpriced stars in areas we were stacked in. No value in the market and all that.
Complete and utter nonsense.
To be fair to the poster, Pep isn't going to come out and say he rejected us for the other side of the city. Plus Maguire and his family have long supported United if I am right. City's outlay on centre backs should prove they arn't shy when it comes to spending.
Or he will thrive playing with better players around him and playing under on of the best coaches in the world.
We will see.
Well SAF did buy players in areas where we already had quality and at high prices. Keane. Veron. Berbatov. Said he only bought Rooney when he did to stop him going to Newcastle. Tried to buy Shearer when we had good quality up front.
SAF did push the boat out for players he particularly liked. Not saying he would buy Grealish now, given his price and looking at our squad profile, but it is the sort of thing he did at various times over his tenure.
Let’s also remember that Pep claimed last season they can’t afford a striker, yet in the middle of a pandemic with most clubs struggling, they have big 100m for 2 players
City not being able to afford it is a claim that should be laughed out of town. It doesn’t fit with reality.
Let’s also remember that Pep claimed last season they can’t afford a striker, yet in the middle of a pandemic with most clubs struggling, they have big 100m for 2 players
City not being able to afford it is a claim that should be laughed out of town. It doesn’t fit with reality.
It's the same excuse every year despite facts proving otherwise.The strangest part of all this, is the fact it is never questioned in the media, certainly mainstream. But seeing as most Journo's have just come of the back of a friendly game with the club, becomes alot less mysterious!
Yeah it's only the misty eyed media who can't see through City spending a fortune in a pandemicLet’s also remember that Pep claimed last season they can’t afford a striker, yet in the middle of a pandemic with most clubs struggling, they have big 100m for 2 players
City not being able to afford it is a claim that should be laughed out of town. It doesn’t fit with reality.
Its hilarious at the amount of cope people have been posting since it was announced he's joining city. "We dont need him anyway", "he wont even get chances there", "well he's not as good as Maradona , so dunno why everybody is overrating him".
Grealish is a top talent and will improve massively under Guardiola and playing with more elite players suh as KDB. Wouldnt suprise me if Guardiola ends up using him in the David Silva role for city.
If grealish was signing for Utd, this place would be delirious with joy.
If grealish was signing for Utd, this place would be delirious with joy.
Villa have spent that money very well already. As good as Grealish is, they'll be stronger for the players they've brought in.
Yeah it's shocking. That almost never happens among football fans. Also I didn't see anyone say he wouldn't get chances at United.
Pep is a walking hypocrisy, always has been.
He didnt pay the 100m equivalent in areas we were so stacked in. Keane was bought to replace an aging Robson and Berbatov came in when we knew Ronaldo was leaving. Those were just signings. Feck me we seemingly had a testimonial every season! He never abused the market like this. He made way for players like Foden, not push him away
I don't really see why this thread has so many comments.
It's either Grealish or Rashford, or Grealish or Fernandes. Those are the positions he would play.
We needed a right winger way more and that's why we've signed Sancho. Grealish in my opinion is an improvement on Sterling for them and he could also play as a 10 for them when needed. It makes alot more sense for City to want him than us.
Good move for Grealish and City. Focus on what we need which is a talented CDM and Pogba replacement if he's leaving.
It's either Grealish or Rashford, or Grealish or Fernandes. Those are the positions he would play.
We needed a right winger way more and that's why we've signed Sancho. Grealish in my opinion is an improvement on Sterling for them and he could also play as a 10 for them when needed. It makes alot more sense for City to want him than us.
Good move for Grealish and City. Focus on what we need which is a talented CDM and Pogba replacement if he's leaving.
Absolutely. On ESPN their pundits are salivating at the prospects of Kane and Grealish going to City. Nary a care about the rest of the league in it.Would be funny seeing them pull this off weeks after Pep was publicly claiming poverty over high striker fees only to spend a PL record fee for Grealish
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The pundit reactions to his fee compared to other high fees paid by other clubs will be will be night and day different I'm sure
100 mil is peanuts for Abu Dhabi.
Grealish is a quality player but with the 10 or whatever attacking players City already have he is hardly going to make that much of a difference.
Grealish is a quality player but with the 10 or whatever attacking players City already have he is hardly going to make that much of a difference.
Yeah, I think he would flinch at £100m now.
But it’s true that we bought high when we had the spending power to do it. He wasn’t daft enough to buy players he didn’t think would improve the squad but he wasn’t always rational about the choice of player or the balance of the squad. He also did try to strengthen from a winning position.
It’s a different world now of course. I think he would have wanted Grealish regardless of our squad but he wouldn’t be able to justify the funds. City don’t have to, I suppose; that’s an important distinction.
The stat is to show the effect of playing in a team that doesn't score many goals. He scored like 20% of their goals in their first season up.
If anything your stats are the pointless ones, comparing to Bruno who scores a crap load of penalties has no point
Have you watched him play a lot? I'm willing to bet you haven't.
I'm not sure if Pep is an absent minded professor type or just taking the piss out of the interviewers.
What about Brunos numbers at Sporting or do they suddenly not matter either?
I watched him play enough
You’re saying he’s better than Bruno then?
Honestly in all my time watching football (I’m 37 now) I’m not sure I’ve seen a more overhyped player in my life. The weird thing is Grealish has been a good player for a few years but suddenly in the space of 6 months he’s gone from good to fecking Messi even though he’s hardly played football. The England hype has raised his stock beyond belief how bizarre.
Want to go one further? he will no longer be a big fish and look even more average at City.
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More likely because Sterling was much better and his impact was rather limited
I'll think about Grealish moving if he passes a medical.
Yeah when Ferguson was our manager Chelsea, City, Liverpool and Arsenal never signed some of the best players in the league
Nobody in their right mind or who isn't joking is discrediting Grealish.
It'd be quite shitty of him to leave less than 2 weeks to the start of the season, less than a year after he signed a new contract professing his belief in the project sold to him by the owners, a project that is well on track. If this happened last year after we had just stayed up, it'd be understandable. We stayed up on literally the last game of the season. But not after we had a good season, and made some excellent signings to push on again this season. Delph got pelters for something similar (though he was a madman and waited like a week instead of 10 months), and he's not even a Villa fan!
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Bookmark it. Quote me in 6 months and see how he's doing. I guarantee he won't look average at City. Even at Villa this season if he stays I think he'll put up higher numbers with Beundia and potentially Leon Bailey in the attack.I watched him play enough
You’re saying he’s better than Bruno then?
Honestly in all my time watching football (I’m 37 now) I’m not sure I’ve seen a more overhyped player in my life. The weird thing is Grealish has been a good player for a few years but suddenly in the space of 6 months he’s gone from good to fecking Messi even though he’s hardly played football. The England hype has raised his stock beyond belief how bizarre.
Want to go one further? he will no longer be a big fish and look even more average at City.
He was very good in their first season in the PL, it's not just 6 months, you clearly haven't watched him enough to say that. It's just he was playing with Davies/Samatta as the strikers who managed no goals in the league between them and Trezeguet as the other wide forward. Even go back a season in the Championship and he returned from injury in like February and was the main reason they got promoted.
Nah, contrarian posts like this are way weirder. Willian with his socks down you know
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I'm not doubting he's a good player I've said multiple times he is I just think he's massively overhyped he's just nowhere near the top level for me and I think in a team full of Foden's, Silvas and De Bruyne's he's going to look pretty average.
There will be no excuse next season, we can revisit this in 6 months and compare him with Bruno and then discuss why Bruno is doubling his assist, Goals and chances created. He's good at taking on a player though and winning a foul that will probably be better than actual team contributions for some in this thread.
Yep, if he actually goes to City, I'd put some money on him winning POTY if I were a betting man tbh. He was the forerunner along with Kane this season before he got injured, and he was setting up El Ghazi/Trezeguet/Traore etc.
Agree. Would have loved to see him at United. We can make room for him in the team. If City can do it, so can we. Sell our cast-offs and raise some money to go towards signing him.
As I said, we'll see. Bruno's assists and chances created is the same reason Sancho creates more at Dortmund. It's not rocket science.
You definitely haven't watched him enough if you think Bernado Silva is going to make him look average
Guys been crap for a year now and stunk up the EurosIt's easy to follow your logic, "Oh look a player I haven't watched much is being raved about, it must be because he's overhyped"
In the 18 months they both played in the same league, Grealish created more chances per game in both of those seasons (2.5 v 2.1 in 2019/20 and 3.3 v 2.5 in 2020/21). In those 2 seasons, they played for the 3rd and 17th and 2nd and 11th placed teams respectively.
Bruno also got just 2 more assists than Grealish, having played 11 games more. Again, one played for United and the other for Villa. How you can think this is going to be a wash for Bruno after Grealish joins the most stacked team in the league is beyond me.
As I said, we'll see. Bruno's assists and chances created is the same reason Sancho creates more at Dortmund. It's not rocket science.
You definitely haven't watched him enough if you think Bernado Silva is going to make him look average
It's easy to follow your logic, "Oh look a player I haven't watched much is being raved about, it must be because he's overhyped"
I've seen him play enough mate, I haven't sat and watched every Villa game but during lockdown with every match being available on tv I've watched Villa loads of times.
A year older with more injury problems? I’d rather spend the £65-75m on Haaland than spend £35-45m(hypothetically) on Kane.
Grealish has 15 goals and 16 assists in his complete PL history spanning 4 seasons.
Using the PL stats page just from last season alone he has less passes, less chances created, less assists, less goals, less passes per match, less crosses literally less at everything. His stats in the Championship (where he's spent the majority of his career) are even worse. Last season he had 10 assists with 14 big chances created compared to Bruno's 12 assists and 20 big chances created. Yeah he's playing for Villa but if people want to compare him to the best and he's costing 100m so fecking what.
He didn't have less chances created, I just told you that. He had more, quite a bit more actually. Big Chances is some weird FIFA stat, with no delineation. Check fbref or whoscored for congregated Opta stats.
Also he didn't most of his career in the Championship. It was 3 seasons out of 8. You said Bruno will have double the chances created, he doesn't even have more now, let alone double when Grealish joins City.
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