Not nearly as tiresome as those who are serious when saying it
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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I've heard fans say a lot of stupid things. Thinking we've overpaid is fair. Being hypercritical of his performance and his value to the team based on the fee the club paid for him is nonsensical. Pogba has zero control over what we decide to pay. The less we encourage this kind of thought process the better.
Well, they can also not get him for free in that case. A lot of clubs might try their luck. He might sign a new contract as well.
It was said last season because of the dick things he allowed his agent to say which undoubtedly destabilised preparation, not because he doesn't get on with his peers and doesn't have banter with them.
If you're going to try and disprove this notion at least use it in the right context.
Absolute disgrace of a comment. Complete lie. Honestly can’t stand some of our fans. Feck off.
2 points here.
1. EL final. He was asked to play deep and recycle possession. He didn’t have a great game and tired in extra time but in comparison to Bruno and Rashford, he did his job fine whilst they were absolutely abysmal. He played a simple game and was part of the reason we were dominant in terms of possession, he just wasn’t as spectacular as he had been when played further forward from December.
2. Can you name me one good team performance, where the team has played really well and Pogba has had a stinker? Because I struggle to name any. If you can name one can you name me 5-10 over his five years? Seems to me if I’m honest that he only really struggles when the team struggles.
It's only one person. Who gives a shit about one person shouting at him.
No.
Case in point Maguire and Shaw and even Cavani to a certain extent, their top level not being as high as Pogba's but they've rarely looked disinterested and lacking concentration.
Also, it's blown in proportion to the wages he's being paid, it's fair.
I agree it’s nonsense but I’m saying it happens
vDB looks like he's lost
If you're gonna defend calling one of our players a virus at least try to give examples of him doing bad stuff, rather than his agent. They're 2 different people!
You must have said this about 10 times in this thread already… Two things to consider for me, no one has bid, and IMO, no one will bid when they get him for free next year, and the second is that the club want to keep him.
I gave a list of people in the last year of there contracts a bit ago, it’s not just a pogba situation. No one is spending 50 million on him yet. Varane is obviously different because there would probably be a bidding war for him in a years time, PSG can wait it out…
You think banishing a world class player we need to the reserves for no valid reason would end this circus??? Interesting…
That's your opinion. Just like how other poster who thought Pogba went towards the supporter so that he can be abused, this notion that he looks disinterested in match is just complete nonsense. Did he have poor game for us? Yes of course but i would argue there are probably 10-15 players who were worse. Pogba gets singled out because most pundits target him as it is not going to get views if you talk about others.
He's agent is his representative.
Whatever a player says might be due to emotions after a game etc, but when an agent comes out and makes a statement he has specific intensions. I don't see why it's so hard to make that distinction.
Unless of course you think Pogba thinks different than his agent. But I don't remember any clarification from him on that subject so far.
We can all see how interested he will be to play for a club he clearly wants to leave, when he eventually turns up for games in a few weeks.
A player being world class only goes so far to performing on the pitch, I find it hard to believe that a player who has made up his mind to leave, and is just waiting for the winter window to finalize his contract with his next club is going to be of any use to us, world class or otherwise.
I dont necessarily think they can. I'm sure there will be host of clubs signing Pogba on a free, especially when the Pogba-PSG connection is abit strenous as it is.
Give it a rest, you don't know what he wants to do
What is your opinion then? Because you don't seem to disagree with me, you're claiming other players are guilty of it too.
I'm not a pundit, I don't know what that has to do with anything.
The agent is the spokesperson for the player. If Raiola constantly disrespect the club and Pogba constantly fails to muzzle him, he's accountable for it.
Moreover an example where he did actually knowingly disrupt things include the Leicester game on opening day of Jose's last season, with a contraversial post match interview even though we won and he scored etc.
Another example would be how he went out of his way in the tunnel to tell reporters that he's not allowed to speak to them, which gave them more ammo to write about the loggerheads in the dressing room between player and manager.
Now Jose was a dick and I needed longer than most to know that he wasn't right. I'm not exactly defending Jose in any of this, but let's not pretend that Pogba wasn't disruptive. Because of course he fecking was. And last year it was Raiola constantly, and he speaks as a representative of the player, so you're naieve to assume Pogba should have no blame.
Doesn't want to sign a contract, do we know that?
Has failed to stop his agent at best, and encouraged him at worst, to run his mouth about him leaving united at least twice every year. do we know that?
I don't know how you don't know what he wants to do.
Even his family are singing the chant about his head. I don't think it affects him in any way.
Matic comes across as a great guy.
Apologies, what does the top paragraph mean?
He’s training with the team as expected and will play the opening game of the season against Leeds won’t he?
As for the second paragraph, there’s a whole host of players going into their last year unresolved at the minute, why would you second guess at best, defame/slander at worst, how much effort people put into games at any stage of their contract. You’ve added 1+1 and come up with 14… Ronaldo knew he was going to Real Madrid in 09, he still put in a shift for us didn’t he?
The bolded is complete and utter nonsense and just shows the fantasy land some of you are living in. Pogba isn’t in control of his agent’s mouth believe it or not, and even if he disagrees with what he said he’s not going to publicly undermine his representative.
Use your head.
To be fair Ronaldo is probably the most disciplined and motivated footballer ever.
I share the doubts about Pogba commitment if he has a move lined up, but the funny thing is he was poor last season UNTIL he's agent said Paul wants a transfer. He improved from that moment if I recall.
Fantasy
fecksake the tripe you come out with. The player can tell his agent NOT to disrespect the club that he apparently loves, don't try and pretend Pogba is some powerless slave to Raiola who has free reign.Even at the time ex players were on a panel wondering why Pogba didn't at a minimum speak out to distance himself from what Raiola was saying. Unless you think these ex players don't know how the game works or how player agent relationships are, you are completely misguided.
At the moment, the only discernible toxicity around Pogba is coming from our fanbase.
Interesting. I thought Pogba pays Raiola not the other way around.
Out of all things that surprise me on this forum, the thing I cannot understand the most is how people think a player and his agent are two different entities.
That was funny from Matic
Fair.
Its not though.
People expect less from a £10m player than an £89m player.
An £89m player should be one of the linchpins of the team, someone to build around, someone who performs well consistently and who you have a clear plan for. That is clearly not the case for a £10m player.
If your £89m player is not doing that of course he'll come under more scrutiny than the £10m player, its completely natural.
The one part of the above you could say is outside of Pogba's control is the clear plan bit. I'm not sure we knew exactly what we were buying or how best to use him. Its clear Ole doesn't trust him in the bigger games and he's played in various different midfield positions as well. Personally I don't think he's good enough to build a midfield around. I don't like having to have 2 defensively minded players next to him to compensate for his poor defensive qualities, so in retrospect he's probably the wrong signing. Not all of it is his fault though.
That's the problem with a virus, it makes you think your it's your friend and then when you're not looking it's signed for Real Madrid.
This happened with you and Covid?
I wish some on here would sign as fans for Real Madrid too tbh.
I just think that calling one of our own players a virus is the opposite of support, especially when, by all accounts, you're really pissed off with his agent (who, last I checked, is a different person). Pogba has never done anything nearly as unprofessional as Kane skipping training and refusing to take his covid tests, yet you won't hear Spurs fans calling him a virus.
Separate the player from the financial interactions. That's what they do. I don't know how Pogba interacts with the club or his agent, so I don't pretend I do. All I've got to go on is comments from within the club, which have always stated that Pogba is very respectful and a great guy to have around.
It's just weird to me, based on all this, that people are determined to call him a virus, not because of anything we know about him, but because of what we know about his agent (who, last I checked, is a different person).
No we do not.
Bingo.
No matter what happens weve really fecked ourselves if he does leave for free a SECOND time. I know he wants to leave but the honorable thing to do if he ever cared about us is to sign a new deal with a release clause to show good faith. That will ensure if the team he wants is serious about him they will pay.
Dont care if he leaves but it cant be for free at the very least.
Dont care if he leaves but it cant be for free at the very least.
Cant blame when he is about to leave in 5 months for free. He should just extend if PSG dont pay up this summer.
Covid told me we'd be friends forever
