It still doesn't really stack up using other player prices. In that case, as Felix, Griezmann and Coutinho cost £105m then for what Kane gives you, he should cost £250m compare to those prices. It's not a gauge you can use accurately. Ultimately, it comes down to supply and demand and a price that both sides are happy with factoring in many different variables.
Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Yup, it makes more sense that any agreement is a result of talks last summer, when it's said that Kane wanted to feck off but was convinced to stay and see out a full season with Mourinho and that the club would be competitive. Either way, it would surprise me if someone like Levy made a concrete promise about fees, unless that fee was very high...
Yes, he shouldn't be vilified. Only non-British players should be targeted.
Didn’t Rooney get roundly vilified by EVERYONE during that mad week he wanted out of Utd to go to City?
Has Kane got photos of mainstream journalists and pundits doing scandalous things? Why such a defence for him?
Has Kane got photos of mainstream journalists and pundits doing scandalous things? Why such a defence for him?
Which part of "to a certain point" made you think i claimed it's an exact science? Looking at fees that long ago doesn't really say anything about the current market.
Griezmann was consistently one of the best players in Spain, key player for France, 4 years left on his Atletico contract. His fee was the only one that made somewhat sense, doesn't change the fact that he never lived up to the expectations, Barcelonas desperation for Coutinho and Atletico forking out Felix's buy-out are abnormal deals, just like the fee for Dembele.
Fact is: There's not many top class strikers around, so any deals will be made at a premium. A top class striker consistently performing in the same league, price goes up as there's no concerns about having to adapt to a different league, you know what you're getting. So what are other comparable players going for, are there any comparable deals, what is the market. Standard is pretty much set in terms of the fees for Lukaku and Grealish, with Kane still having 3 years left on his contract there's no rush to sell him either and Tottenham would have to pay a hefty fee trying to get someone to replace him. His fee should easily be around £125mill
Yeah, I don't get the idea that Spurs should sell their prize asset at a cut-price deal to a club with literally infinite money just because otherwise poor old Harry will be saaaaddddd.
If it means that much to him, surely he'll be willing to hand in a transfer request to forgo his huge loyal bonus, allowing Spurs to accept a lower price for him as they won't need to pay out to him as well. Oh wait...
Why would Kane feel the need to take a wage cut to help an Oil state save money?
They can afford the fee and salary, depends how mich they really want him
So easy and simple to understand. City think they can cut corners when going for the best players.
Side note but grealish and Kane for 220 million is the biggest ripoff.
With the Ronaldo to Madrid transfer, I do think Ronaldo's form was affected in 2008/2009. I don't think it was exactly that he didn't give his all, and he still got 25 goals, but there was part of the season where his form dipped in a way that it hadn't before or since. A bit like how Sancho's form at the beginning of last season was below par.
Kane has made it clearer than either of those did that he wants to leave Spurs. I wonder if the tension between him and the Spurs fans, or just the fact that everyone knows that he doesn't want to be there, might affect his form.
Exactly. In these situation i am always on club's side. Nobody is forcing players to sign contracts. Nobody is forcing players to not throw release clause in contract. Nobody is forcing players to sign long term contracts.
Zero sympathy from me to players in these situations. Same as in opposite situation when players like Pogba or Mbappe have one year left of contract and club (through their people in media) is making pressure in public on them to sign new.
I am amazed how many fans take side of a player in these situations (Cristiano in our case). "It is his dream", "wants to win trophies", "deserves better" etc....feck off. You have contract, you are payed to play and that is it.
The whole thing is comical. You’ve got the oil club on a quest to buy out any and all competition in the league, who have just happily spent £100m on an inferior player they didn’t need. There’s Kane, heroically throwing a tantrum and refusing to play because he just “wants to win trophies before he retires”, and yet won’t hand in a transfer request and otherwise compromise whatever financial payout he might be entitled to. But still, it’s definitely not about money.
And yet Spurs are seemingly portrayed as the money-grabbing villains in this.
This is what I don't get? Why are so many people feeling sorry for him. Oh he has been a good servant so let him go?
Spurs havent said No we are not selling, they have put a price on him, its up to City to pay it.
Last season, it was all about how crap United are in the window because he didn't sign Sancho, not a word from anyone about Dortmund being awkward or anything, its because they set a price and United didn't meet it. Simple as.
If you really want to leave, hand in a transfer request, he is not willing to do that, so he can suck it up really.
There is no way that Levy specified a price in this 'gentleman's agreement'. Levy could reasonably say that Kane has been underhand by trying to set his own price at £100m - way below what Levy would ask for - before City had even opened negotiations with Spurs. It's ok for Kane to say that Spurs promised to let him go, but it comes across like he had one idea for how much he should cost and he felt like Levy was just obliged to agree with him, which is stupid and arrogant.
He didn't even come back from holiday to push the thing through! In fact he did the opposite - he sat on his hands in Florida and just seemed to wait for everything to be resolved, then freaked out at his employers.
He's a tit.
I don't think theres huge difference between Kane and Lukaku though over the past 2 seasons. They are scoring similar amount of goals for their clubs, and for their countries in both WC and Euro. If Lukaku only cost Chelsea 100m, Kane shouldn't be more than 120m, as they are at same age too.
Does that also mean you dont think there is a difference between the PL and Serie A?
Hence I also stated for their country, in both WC and Euro, not much difference there.
Thats the puff pieces started now to protect Saint ‘Arry. Can’t imagine the hatchet job they’d be doing if this was Pogba acting like this.
I mean there is a clear difference between kane and Lukaku.
Most of Lukakus goals last season came from inside the penalty area, Kane is able to score left foot right foot from outside the box.
Kane is a much better player when it comes to all round play, better hold up play, his passing is probably one of the best for a striker, his crossing is pretty good too.
There is differences imo between Kane and Lukaku.
If you have a poll and ask people who they would rather take Kane or Lukaku, I am pretty certain who would win.
I think the key difference is that Pogba has, for many years, played for giants of European football, with a history of winning things. He's won numerous major trophies and though there are always clubs that could offer a better chance of success, he's at least had a shot at the big time. Kane is 28, been one the best players in Europe for several years, yet has only ever played for Spurs and this could be his last shot at the "big time." So, though his behaviour isn't great, I think it's understandable why he gets less of a hard time from the UK media. How many greats of the game don't play for won of Europe's more successful clubs? I think it would be a tragedy not to see what Kane could do in a team with some of the most creative players in Europe. Nearly all the top players get to experience that. Pogba has had it loads, Kane hasn't.
Interestingly to me at least, both have a bit of a reputation for underperforming in the biggest games. Finals, big 6 clashes etc. They've got different skillsets and I'd prefer Kane (we've tried Lukaku already after all) but I'm not 100% convinced by either as the striker who's guaranteed to lead his team to trophies right now. I guess Lukaku actually has slightly more credit that Kane in that regard.
If we're going for a £100m+ striker to lead our line for 5+ years and lead us to trophies, the transfer needs to be an absolute guaranteed success, because that player is gonna be the most heavily scrutinised in world football. I'm honestly not sure if either Kane or Lukaku have the right mentality for that.
Now Haaland on the other hand - at 19 he was calling out Lewandowski and Mbappe!
The whole line of protecting British but more notably English players runs deep through the entire English media. In general, English players are also deeply overrated by the local media.
This isn't new and our own players like Rooney have benefitted from it.
It's also very uninteresting in general. More interested in where Harry K ends up than the optics.
This isn't new and our own players like Rooney have benefitted from it.
It's also very uninteresting in general. More interested in where Harry K ends up than the optics.
I get your points, ofcourse spending £100m on a Striker at both their age is ridiculous for us. However; if you are looking at City or Chelsea where they have winners in their team and is like a missing piece, you probably would spend that money.
Kane to me is a much better player than Lukaku. You also have to take into consideration he plays for Spurs, they hardly have a chance to win things, Kane has always been their go to guy.
For Kane vs Lukaku, it really depends on the tactic and the coach. For pep it is Kane for slow build up play and Kane's false 9 style, and Lukaku for Conte/Tuchel's 343. The right horse for the course. The transfer fee however is different things, english player tax, length of contract, there are so many variables. Higher transfer fee doesn't mean better player.
Whilst that is largely true it does not alter the fact that the current situation is entirely of Kane's making. He signed a 6 year contract without a release clause at a club that hasn't won feck all in decades and now acts surprised that he is stuck at a mid table team. He could have stuck on his original deal and walked on a free by now but he wanted the cash and still wanted control of his destiny and that is just not how it works.
That's why I rated Kane around 20% more expensive. I just don't think he should be cost 50% more. The difference isn't that huge.
The difference is Spurs don’t want to sell, coupled with the fact that Kane is the current face of the England team.
Best, most honorable options for Harry Kane…
1. Stay, honor the contract you signed and be a legend at a club you love.
2. Come out and say you want trophies, hand in a transfer request and be honest and up front about how you feel.
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20. - Do an sneaky interview with Gary Neville saying you want to leave, miss training, hurt your teammates at the start of the season and leave your club short, brief the press that it’s the club’s fault, not offer any honesty or clarification about the situation, all while being two faced and trying to maintain your, now shattered, reputation as the model pro.
It’s full heel turn by Harry Kane. The lies and lack of any courage or honor or respect for the fans is what pushes it over the top. City is the best place for him.
1. Stay, honor the contract you signed and be a legend at a club you love.
2. Come out and say you want trophies, hand in a transfer request and be honest and up front about how you feel.
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20. - Do an sneaky interview with Gary Neville saying you want to leave, miss training, hurt your teammates at the start of the season and leave your club short, brief the press that it’s the club’s fault, not offer any honesty or clarification about the situation, all while being two faced and trying to maintain your, now shattered, reputation as the model pro.
It’s full heel turn by Harry Kane. The lies and lack of any courage or honor or respect for the fans is what pushes it over the top. City is the best place for him.
Sure Spur could price him out of the market, but I think Kane deserves a move after giving his all for Spur over the years. Reasonable price would be around 120m.
Yeah I do understand that but also Spurs dont need to sell whereas Inter were in a difficult financial situation.
Secondly, like almost every England player, there is a £20m levy on top as well, we've seen with with alot of players.
Spurs aren’t pricing him out of the market, City can afford to pay ten times over.
But seriously, other than City, who would entertain the idea of spending 150m on Kane? Basically no one would. Hence Spur is pricing him out of market.
I still remember during the first few England games in Euro, Kane has been very poor and a lot people saying Kane has past it, not even worth 80m etc.
Sure it could be knee jerk reaction, but I just don't think a 28 year old Kane, with similar scoring stats as Lukaku, should worth that huge amount of money (150m). Especially when we consider Haaland would only cost 75m next summer.
Kane career goal stats (age 28): 275 goals in 462 games - 150m???
Lukaku career goal stats (age 28): 315 goals in 606 games - 100m
Haaland career goal stats (age 21): 138 goals in 185 games - 75m
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Good points. Basically, anyone who defends Kane or feels sorry for him is an idiot.
It is clear as day that if City want hin, they need to pay up, no matter how sad Kane gets. His antics are disgraceful and any other player would have been slaughtered by the media, and rightly so
Nobody would, but it’s City who want him and City who have the money. No one else bothered because they knew the likely cost.
Reports say Levy refusing to even talk to City so have no idea how this transfer could happen. I still think Kane will stay for another season or two and then eventually join United, maybe Chelsea if it's 2023.
City is getting squeezed by Levy
He knows City are desperate and in the don’t care if it’s £90, £100 or £120, as long as they get him.
He knows City are desperate and in the don’t care if it’s £90, £100 or £120, as long as they get him.Levy is the master of this it's so funny because we are not involved.
He will hold out for 180m but then eventually sell for north of 140.
He will hold out for 180m but then eventually sell for north of 140.
Its Kane who wants to leave Spur. Regardless of City or not, they shouldn't price him out after all the years of services he has given to the club.
Slight correction : Only non British United player should be targeted
This guy is the Harry Kane dicksucker in chief.