We are an awfully coached team

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What are people talking about, there is no way this is the worst game we played under Ole, i know gold fish mode is enabled here more often than not but go check full match replay from last season vs Brighton away and even that game might not be the worst, we won the end somehow.
 

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Seeing how Ronaldo makes these one two passes easily in tight areas and other players just messing it shows how poor our field coaches are. Definitely need big changes in coaching stuff.
 

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Can't string 3 passes together. Every single fecking game I've watched this year bar Leeds and Newcastle the feckers can't string 3 passes together. Absolutely useless coaching/management. Get a god damn manager who works on passing in training.
 

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Even if we come back and get something, its not good. No direction. Players just doing what they want. If we were actually coached, we would have passed the ball into the net at least twice given Ronaldo is was in good positions for some chances. Instead we are just doing what we want when we want.
 

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It's so painful to watch how poorly coached we are. Literally every chance we ever create is made from opposition errors or a beautiful piece if skill from one of our star attackers. There's 0 tactical input going on, it's just a collection of individuals with nobody telling them how to play (other than go work hard guys). What the feck are we playing at keeping Ole still in charge?
 

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I think the game against Leicester pretty much confirmed to most that Ole had no future here, any competent board would have done the necessary, and now we have under coached players playing for a manager that they know is on his way out, which leads to even worse performances like tonight.

I've been "Ole out" for a while, but I could kinda understand the "inners", but surely most of the fan base can tell that his day's are numbered, the club dragging this out are either incompetent or just plain cruel, my guess would be the former.
 

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When Ole eventually moves on and when or if some other club employs him, can all the Ole lovers really see him being a decent manager and a sucess in football elswhere in the future.
 

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When Ole eventually moves on and when or if some other club employs him, can all the Ole lovers really see him being a decent manager and a sucess in football elswhere in the future.
The answer has always been no but anyone that's asked it was branded a hater.
 

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I‘d have loved to have been a fly on the wall at Carrington and listen to this past 3 years of what has been happening there.

And then I’d probably kamikaze it into the kitchen fly zapper when I couldn’t stop hearing buzzwords like ‘United DNA’
 

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Yea, definitely will have to make a thread when the inevitable happens. All you have to do is look at post history and see who was right back then. I feel vindicated and all the abuse I got was uncalled for then.
You left redcafe for 4 months when Poch was beaten by City.
Glass houses...
 

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Don’t worry, we’ll win this and have to deal with more of this, cannot wait
 

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We have one of the best squads in the world with the worst coaching staff in the world
 

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This was classic stuff; throw all weapons in and play run and gun. Jose did it against Newcastle and few days later we looked shit again.

He messed up with match preparation and we won despite him.
 

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I see many dissapointed fans here just because we won.

Sometimes, try to support the team, staff, players. Specially when it is needed the most. It feels better.
 

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I see many dissapointed fans here just because we won.

Sometimes, try to support the team, staff, players. Specially when it is needed the most. It feels better.
We're on an internet forum, not in the stadium boo'ing the players or spouting abuse to Ole etc.

What we say has little to no significance.
 

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If we can’t coach them to be a good pass and move side they can at least get them showing that 2nd half intensity level every game….or so you’d think. We need to be able to do one at least consistently otherwise we’ll get nowhere.
 

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I see many dissapointed fans here just because we won.

Sometimes, try to support the team, staff, players. Specially when it is needed the most. It feels better.
I support Man Utd. Players and managers are here to do what is best for Man Utd. Ole is not the best for Man Utd. He is holding this great team back
 

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I support Man Utd. Players and managers are here to do what is best for Man Utd. Ole is not the best for Man Utd. He is holding this great team back
Everyone(?) is supporting the team. And players and staff are part of it. To give criticism is one thing, to throw insults is another.

So Moyes, VanGaal, Mourinho all held this team back. Sometimes, supporters need to look in the mirror and ask if they are holding this team back with all negativity.
 

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Sometimes, supporters need to look in the mirror and ask if they are holding this team back with all negativity
:lol: All supporters are more or less the same at the end of the day. It's very clear that we are woefully undercoached
 

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Feel like it was less of a tactical triumph than a triumph of the team spirit. I'm terms of the shape it was pandemonium at times, and I agree with the BT pundits that we can't play like that against Liverpool.

Still, big result and another comeback which showed the quality of the players we have at certain moments of the game. Good fighting spirit, if you don't have that then you're going nowhere. Just bemusing how they looked like they couldn't give a toss against Leicester to the opposite tonight.
 

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This squad could be so awesome with the right coaching :(
This is the most annoying part. It's genuinely a world class group. But it's going to be wasted because the higher ups seemingly don't think it's that important to have an actual coach who knows what he is doing.
 

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Everyone(?) is supporting the team. And players and staff are part of it. To give criticism is one thing, to throw insults is another.

So Moyes, VanGaal, Mourinho all held this team back. Sometimes, supporters need to look in the mirror and ask if they are holding this team back with all negativity.
An excellent take... So we give away easy goals because of the negativity within the fanbase? :)

Come on mate, enjoy the victory, be happy when the chance is there. No need to come in here just to act smug again. For all the great features of the 2nd half, the 1st half wasn't such a relevation.
 

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Feel like it was less of a tactical triumph than a triumph of the team spirit. I'm terms of the shape it was pandemonium at times, and I agree with the BT pundits that we can't play like that against Liverpool.

Still, big result and another comeback which showed the quality of the players we have at certain moments of the game. Good fighting spirit, if you don't have that then you're going nowhere. Just bemusing how they looked like they couldn't give a toss against Leicester to the opposite tonight.
Yea i agree.
 

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Everyone(?) is supporting the team. And players and staff are part of it. To give criticism is one thing, to throw insults is another.

So Moyes, VanGaal, Mourinho all held this team back. Sometimes, supporters need to look in the mirror and ask if they are holding this team back with all negativity.
So what is criticsm and what is negativity in your opinion? Saying that someone is not good enough is negativity? Don't be a snowflake. If no9 or rw or manager are not good enough, it is fair to say that.
 

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That's it proof he's deluded
Ole i thought we played well in the first half.
The amount of openings they created through us in that first half.
 

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When Ole eventually moves on and when or if some other club employs him, can all the Ole lovers really see him being a decent manager and a sucess in football elswhere in the future.
I honestly don’t think any premier league club would even be interested to be honest.
 

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Feel like it was less of a tactical triumph than a triumph of the team spirit. I'm terms of the shape it was pandemonium at times, and I agree with the BT pundits that we can't play like that against Liverpool.

Still, big result and another comeback which showed the quality of the players we have at certain moments of the game. Good fighting spirit, if you don't have that then you're going nowhere. Just bemusing how they looked like they couldn't give a toss against Leicester to the opposite tonight.
Today was like the Jose match against Newcastle where Martial and Pogba saved him. A victory of the spirit of the players, not for the failing manager and what they’re trying to do.
 

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An excellent take... So we give away easy goals because of the negativity within the fanbase? :)

Come on mate, enjoy the victory, be happy when the chance is there. No need to come in here just to act smug again. For all the great features of the 2nd half, the 1st half wasn't such a relevation.
I am enjoying every game. Some less, some more. I'm not here to act anything but it doesn't look good when we need to win games, we have fans in this place just throwing everything against Solskjaer and staff. Even wanting us to lose.

So what is criticsm and what is negativity in your opinion? Saying that someone is not good enough is negativity? Don't be a snowflake. If no9 or rw or manager are not good enough, it is fair to say that.
I think you know pretty well what difference is between throwing insults and discussing tactics.