Sadly I can’t see him being sacked
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That is the real dealbreaker for me. Same problems, game after game, and he just doubles down on the approach. It's a virtue to stick to what you believe in up to a point, I suppose, but we're now well past the point where that started to look like a gamble, or worse, like he didn't have any more cards to pull out of the pack. It looks pretty evident that the team has stopped believing in it - our defence in particular, which has been looking worse and worse for every game, and today was beyond atrocious.
The really horrible thing today was that we lose 5-0 in a game where both sides effectively stopped playing at 60 minutes, and where Liverpool didn't even really dominate that much. Possession was even at the break, shots close. But still they score 5 goals in little more than 50 minutes. All of them great goals and well deserved, but all of them also involving galactic-scale defensive meltdowns, from a defensive unit who clearly didn't feel confident handling what they were up against. Much of which comes back to our inability to exercise control higher up on the pitch, I would suspect.
Unfortunately we’re going to soldier on with him.
God no, not Rodgers.
Ten Haag absolutely will join given his salary will rise by about 500 %. Also he needs more time with the squad if he has to have a real tilt at trophies next year.
I know how you feel, but its time to change your nick to ole sat at the wheel.
Yes, it is. It's the definition of a demand made in bad faith. Not one single poster in here, or any of these hack journalists or Twatter outrage merchants would ever hold themselves up to the same made up moral standards. It's a demand designed to generate hatred towards another human being, trying to make it out like he's not only an incompetent manager for this level (which he is), but also a terrible human being (which he isn't). It serves only to absolve those higher up of the responsibility which is part of their jobs, and you're a fool if you're falling for it.
Oh yes please no coach who improves many players.
Even if the board has decided to sack ole they wont do it now because they'll want the new manager or the interim caretaker to have a soft landing. So they'll wait till our difficult fixtures are out the way by next month.
Looks like it.
I've just read his post match interview and I'm seething.
I've never heard so much shite in my life.
He actually thinks we're close to something.
He's defending the coaching
Forget about it and move on
He's completely lost it.
He's going to send the same team out again to do the same thing in the next fecking game
Jesus will this ever end
He's not in control anymore and doesn't know how to solve it.
He needs to be put out of misery like Moyes was.
Only question is how to do it with both sides saving face. The board and the manager.
He needs to be put out of misery like Moyes was.
Only question is how to do it with both sides saving face. The board and the manager.
It's not a demand. It's a free world and OGS is free to do as he pleases at the end of the day. It's a rather an expectation from a purported club legend.
Yep. People’s willingness to waste seasons simply to prove what big fans they are is something I’d never get
Semantics. Doesn't change a thing. It's a stupid expectation made in bad faith then.
How many more games are we will to go away.
And chokes during the endgame, every time.
I don't know. Graham Potter? Would be fun to see what he could make of a big club.
Just so long as it's not some short term big ego who veers into yet another fundamental shift in approach. Obviously adjustments are needed to how we play, otherwise there wouldn't be a need to replace OGS, but it should be broadly within the parameters of fast attacking football.
Assuming you meant "willing" and to "throw" away, then your guess is as good as mine.
Difficult timing for the board.
Do it now and they have to have someone lined up.
Think next international break, and they've got a few weeks to sort it.
This is why it's unlikely a sacking is on the horizon. This isn't even close to rock bottom for Ole. I'm actually expecting another run that leads to no trophies. He's a wizard of zero expectation football. He'll however go back to being a pumpkin right in time to bottle a trophy opportunity. Haven't seen a manager so allergic to the pressure of expectation.
I'm not being funny, but there are many replacements better than Ole. Give a chance to somebody and when the next obvious choice is available, assess again. Just don't rest on our laurels whatever we do.
Ten Hag if available.
Potter given a chance.
Conte then reassess at the end of the season or when the next obvious choice is available.
Same for Zidane.
I bet others could roll off a list of interesting managers that are worth a shot. We honestly have nothing to lose and there will be no sentiment towards these managers so, if they fail, we go again. That is how it is done. We'll either strike lucky giving a chance out or will maybe win a trophy on the way to finding our Klopp or Pep.
He should have gone after the EL Final. It proved his limitations and level. Now we have to flounder for a season for the inevitable.
Unreal negativity.
Ole after the match..
No idea how to properly post a tweet here:
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No idea how to properly post a tweet here:
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We don't care about winning.
Ole won't be sacked until the end of the season.
Not even expecting it.
The entire season is a write-off in October yet again.
Ole won't be sacked until the end of the season.
Not even expecting it.
The entire season is a write-off in October yet again.
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Seriously. Anyone expecting OGS to resign of his volition on the evening of a catastrophic result lack not just realism and reasonability, but also an appreciation of what responsibility means. This is a decision for the club to make, at the time of its choosing. He can fight it, laconically await it or work with the club on the decision on a basis of mutual consent, but for him to make that decision off the cuff on his own, with no preparation or warning, would be stupid and irresponsible.
I also can't shake off the feeling a lot of the delusional confidence in Ole behind the scenes comes from them, especially that new contract. Someone must have told our clueless board the players would mail it if they thought the manager was leaving.
Worst part is if he wasn't renewed Neville and everyone from old United would have blamed the poor start on the uncertainty of Ole's position. We've seen just about any and everything get turned into an excuse for Ole.
He says exactly what he has to say. Means nothing.
Why? First of all they would both jump to take United.
And i can see sceptiscm towards Conte but Zidane? Plays attacking football, he is not toxic character, won everything, has reputation....what to ask more, ffs?
How much of a paycheck will he get?
The reason I agree with you is that we seem to think we need a manager to build a dynasty and who’s going to be here long term, but if that’s the case why are we signing Cavani one Summer and Ronaldo the next. We need a manager who can get the best out of us now.
You can disagree as much as you want. One thing is the brand of football going on, another thing is shitty negativity that is just plain wrong. Yes the timing for that thread was not my finest hour, but most fans will agree that Ole has done a lot good as well. It’s just not going to work out with him if we want the next level.
Although Klopp did say Woodward called Old Trafford "an adult version of Disneyland" so it's not beyond the possible.
Bit quiet on the club briefing his job is safe, like they did after Leicester, no?
I mean he's recently signed a 3 year £10million a year contract. So the answer is - a fair bit.
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There doesn't seem to be any leaks or narratives coming from journalists, either pro or anti ole.
Sorry, I've resorted to drink this evening.
He needs to go now, caretaker in until it's sorted.
Was thinking the same tbh
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are playing now, so fat chance they'd bother briefing anyone yet.
In all seriousness, I think we won't hear anything until tomorrow. Even then there's a slim chance of anything being done or said.
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