Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
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United Hobbit

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Dear goodness, they are getting at Ole the manager who is so out of his depth it is screaming out, not Ole the player, of course I'm still so grateful for what he did as a player and get Goosebumps thinking about THAT goal, but that doesn't stop me wanting him removed as manager as he's out of his depth. I can even acknowledge he's laid some good foundations but he needs to go before all that is undone.
 

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Neville going on about PR and social media control and going full out in a pit of desperation is hilariously lacking in self-awareness.
 

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Neville’s become tiresome and will probably continue to lose the plot today.

He said with such confidence yesterday that Ole will be there until the end of the season when in truth he is out of touch with what happens at the club and has no idea.

Now he’ll pin it all on the players if Ole goes when in reality they’ve given their best and it just hasn’t worked out.

There doesn’t need to be anyone to blame. It’s just the case that this coaching team have taken us as far as they can.
 

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Well most people don't have a job where you're supposed to leave your biases at the door. Not to mention what he's doing right now is completely optional. He could just not be posting on twitter.
So if you're a public person and your mate is in a bit of bother you'd go after them?

Yeah, he's supporting his mate/responding to people slagging him off for supporting his mate. Yes, he could be keeping quiet but its hardly surprising that he's not.

It's not that, he's just approaching it in the wrong way by attacking everyone else instead. All he needs to say is that he's gutted for Ole if this is the end.
Maybe but, given that its fairly obvious he's always gonna side with the guy he sat next to in the dressing room, why are people getting so fired up about it?

I wouldn't stick the boot in on a mate of mine either.

This isn't particular to Ole though, he had a meltdown when Mourinho was sacked
Yeah he did that's true and, I can guess, that's probably cos he really wants to attack the Glazers and feels powerless against their ownership.

We're all hypocrites to a huge degree. Anyone who says they aren't is either lying or a saint, and I ain't met many saints. Gary's behaviour is wildly inconsistent. So is most people's. I find it odd that people get hot under the collar about it though.

Especially when its one United treble winner defending another United treble winner. That's literally all they ever did. There was never a fight or a square up in a United game of that era where they all didn't race in to support each other.

Thinking Gary's gonna sharpen the knife for Ole now is a bit crazy to me.
 

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It's hardly 'turning on the guy' to suggest that his time as manager has probably run its course. I think utd fans would have more respect for Gary if he was honest and agreed that the job's probably beyond the current manager and his coaching staff.
 

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The thought of not wanting to replace Ole because we don't like the alternatives is fatalism.

The alternatives might not work but that doesn't mean you don't try, that's like not signing a new player because there's a chance they might not succeed.
 

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FFS, have we not done that enough already?
I just can’t handle the thought of Conte getting the job. If that happens, weird more fecked than we are now.
We're more fecked than getting thumped 0-5 to Liverpool at home? Get a grip.
 

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I'd say mediocrity, incompetence and cronyism would be better indicators of someone living in the "Johnson era".
 

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So if you're a public person and your mate is in a bit of bother you'd go after them?

Yeah, he's supporting his mate/responding to people slagging him off for supporting his mate. Yes, he could be keeping quiet but its hardly surprising that he's not.



Maybe but, given that its fairly obvious he's always gonna side with the guy he sat next to in the dressing room, why are people getting so fired up about it?

I wouldn't stick the boot in on a mate of mine either.



Yeah he did that's true and, I can guess, that's probably cos he really wants to attack the Glazers and feels powerless against their ownership.

We're all hypocrites to a huge degree. Anyone who says they aren't is either lying or a saint, and I ain't met many saints. Gary's behaviour is wildly inconsistent. So is most people's. I find it odd that people get hot under the collar about it though.

Especially when its one United treble winner defending another United treble winner. That's literally all they ever did. There was never a fight or a square up in a United game of that era where they all didn't race in to support each other.

Thinking Gary's gonna sharpen the knife for Ole now is a bit crazy to me.
Then he's bad at his job. He can just come out and say any number of things but instead he doesn't and just speaks in delusions.
 

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No, we don’t expect Neville to lash out at his mate. But by refusing to call a spade a spade no one should be taking Neville’s commentary on United seriously.
 

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What's going on?
Monday is nearly over and he hasn't been sacked yet? Or is the board waiting to get knocked out of CL?
 

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FFS, have we not done that enough already?

This will be our 5th manager post Fergie, what makes you think the board will make the right decision and not make us worse? We finished 2nd last season, we weren’t great and it was a weird season but we still finished 2nd.

I just can’t handle the thought of Conte getting the job. If that happens, weird more fecked than we are now.
So we should just wait and stick to this clueless bunch until we figure out a right one ? And what exactly is a right one ? Care to explain ?
 

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Just shows how clueless he is. That is so irrelevant.

If Cantona managed us and lost every game 0-5 would we keep cheering him because he is the King? No, we can very easily separate the player form the manager. Neville is an awful, biased and out of date commentator.
 

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How can you turn on Ole? He scored a great goal 22 years ago! Well he's supposed to be a manager now, if his main credential for support is something he did as a player 22 years ago that's a big issue.
 

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Lazy comparison we got spanked 6-1 by City going gung ho at 3-1 when we got a goal back trying to recover the game with 10 men. We tried that day. Yesterday was a mauling
 

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Yeah he does. He was saying the club would stick with him till the summer, now he's talking as if he's gone.
True, he always intensifies his defence before the sack arrives so he can say 'I think x, y or z deserved more time', look at my tweets.
 

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Then he's bad at his job. He can just come out and say any number of things but instead he doesn't and just speaks in delusions.
So you'd slag off your mate? Okay. That's you.

Me? I'd like to think I'd never be sticking the boot into a mate of 20 years on TV.

Yeah, everyone can see he knows its crap. We all know its crap. I've lost faith in Ole myself. But I don't expect someone who's been friends with someone for decades to start slagging him off for the viewing pleasure of SkySports subscribers.

Maybe its just me?

No, we don’t expect Neville to lash out at his mate. But by refusing to call a spade a spade no one should be taking Neville’s commentary on United seriously.
Why? Where are these pundits with android like consistency? You can not want to attack your friend and still point out all the things that are crap about United. Gary has done so repeatedly recently. There's even a thread on the CAF dedicated to Gary saying United have no style of play. That's pretty much the closest you can go to having a go at Ole without being explicit.

I do get it, but he's wrong to go after the players. They've been fair with Ole and I bet they aren't the ones leaking this.
That's fair but your mates are always going to deflect aren't they?
 

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Is it just me or are the Glazers not going to be too busy to deal with this situation?

 

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If Neville was a former Chelsea player he'd still be saying they should've kept Lampard since he's their greatest player ever.

As if great players have never been shite managers.

The Zidanes and Peps are very much the exceptions, never the rule
 

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Why is that an irrational thought? It’s the start of the season and we’re still in the mix. We got beat 6-1 off City at home, that didn’t spell the end of us.
Comparing result without any context. Liverpool result is symptom of far bigger issue while City result was more of an anomaly. Nobody asked Klopp to be removed when they lost to Aston Villa. But this thumping was coming and was in fact predicted by Scholes just a week back
 

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Since lunch I've seen the briefing about Ole losing the players in the Guardian, ESPN, the MEN, the Times...

...Also seen the line that Woodward plans to hang around until the end of 2021-22...

...Someone's hit up the distribution list haven't they?

Ole's not going to be here for Spurs (A) is he?
 

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Since lunch I've seen the briefing about Ole losing the players in the Guardian, ESPN, the MEN, the Times...

...Also seen the line that Woodward plans to hang around until the end of 2021-22...

...Someone's hit up the distribution list haven't they?

Ole's not going to be here for Spurs (A) is he?
Where have you seen that?
 

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Can't believe people are getting at Gary Neville for supporting his mate.

What kind of friend kicks his mate on the way down?

Ole is about to get fired. Its obvious from all the briefing going out to the Manchester press pack about the players not believing in him etc. Feels like a familiar 'source.'

Why are people so keen to see Nev stick the knife in?
He shouldn't stick the knife in even when he is a public figure, working as a pundit ( he should be neutral) , but at least he should keep his bias opinions to himself.
 

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We got beat 6-1 off City at home, that didn’t spell the end of us.
We were then managed by the greatest. We were the Champions. We had started that season in flying form, beating City in the Charity Shield, racking up big scores in the league, and beating the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea at home.
 

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Would Neville hire OGS at Salford if he was available and willing?
Yep, and he wouldn't hesitate to sack him the moment things go south, just as he'd done with the handful of previous managers they've had, exposing Gary for the hypocrite he is.
 
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