He’s just speculating then?
Ole Sack Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Yup he is guesstimating. But he is in a good place to do that.
The issue is Dortmund has the structure in place for a long time, defined by going through trial and error. They're in position where they can afford to do that. On the other hands, we just have everything rolled out in one go. A pool of experienced personnels doesn't equate to a well oiled system/ team, let alone a newly assembled team still working under decision maker made up of money men.
Being groomed would imply someone with experience and the know how is watching over and mentoring. Who is it at our club doing this mentor role?
AKA the perfect yes man
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How can he continue when the players have lost faith in him? Delaying the inevitable here
To be fair, Watford will beat us. I'd be very surprised if they don't.
Also from the stream with Whitwell - he genuinely believes there are no conversations with other managers to a serious degree. It is not how they tend to do things. Mourinho and Ole were only seriously spoken to after the sackings.
United were never seriously in for Conte he says.
United were never seriously in for Conte he says.
The standard for Manchester United these days is beating Watford.
Surely getting an interim in over a two week break is better than Ole being in the job with that sort of leash and having to find an interim with even less time to get this set up?
Whitwell‘s really throwing cold water on a lot of our straw clutching huh.
How can a match vs Watford be a barometer for success for fecks sake?!
It's hilarious really, but also tragic af.
The same as beating a team that was about to sack their manager was enough for Ole to talk about how we're picking up form.
Sorry but you're totally wrong.
This is possibly in the hands of the players already then. Are they sufficiently disgruntled to force a change?
This a fecking tragedy.
Sound like they're gonna write off all the big games where we're favorite to lose. They try to see if Ole can still survive against smaller oppositions to continue to wrap up top 4 despite the divided dressing room. Ole still has his loyalists in the dressing room after all.
I watched every minute. And sometimes twice. There is critical of what Ole chooses, and there is blaming him for Maquire and Shaw bumping into each other. Some of the shit being put out there is beyond reason. We have all been there, underperforming. But every time I have done so, I’m responsible.
That said. I don’t blame people for wanting a change. But it needs to be the right one, and making things up won’t help the club. Online fans are distancing themselves, and don’t even realising it.
I'm watching now and the message seems to be that they don't know what direction they'd go in if Ole was sacked so they are just going to hoping Ole can ride this storm.
We will beat watford we are due a Papering act.
When he says Glazers not sacking Ole / sticking with him Does he just mean post-City, or generally this season? Because I can’t see them sticking with him if we crash out the CL and continue losing
Yup 100%.
Pretty obvious now that the Board just want to somehow get him to December where we start a considerably easier run, with 3 home games to begin with. It's fecking sickening.
Yes, everything is now depending on the result against relegation threatened Watford, not all the embarrassment we have been receiving recently. If we beat 17th placed Watford, everything is fine.
Easy home games? Just like Aston Villa and Everton were easy home games? It's as if this board is only thinking about Liverpool and Man City results. The West Ham Cup result? Young Boys result? Leicester result? Villa result? Everton, Villareal performances, amongst a whole others, Wolves for example should have been 3-0 up before we scored.
If it's about losing to Watford, I bloody hope we do then since I have no desire to see us embarrassed against Chelski and Blud FC.
Post City.
C’mon Watford.
Only kind of joking.
Only kind of joking.
So say we lose to Watford and that is enough for the board to decide to make a change? With games against Villareal and Chelsea no less straight after, they're hardly building a platform for a new man to hit the ground running.
Which is why it's imperative that everyone, pundits fans and players, make sure he can't ride it.
1. So basicly top four is good enough and their goal.
2. They admit that they lack ambition
3. He is their pupit, and thats more important to them than anything.
what a fecking circus, people now hoping we lose to fecking watford and I can't blame them.
It's not the Glazers he has a bond with, it's Woodward and Arnold.
All the more important these protests go ahead, they can't be allowed to ride this storm of their own making at our expense!
International break for most of us means good time to change the manager so whoever comes in has some time to prepare but for our board it means 2 weeks off where they don't have to think about the manager.
Anyway, there's no point discussing this anymore. The board doesn't want to sack him because they don't have a clue what to do next. They'll stick with him till the end just because they're clueless.
So best thing to do is to just stop caring all together and stop getting angry because the board doesn't give a shit themselves.
So best thing to do is to just stop caring all together and stop getting angry because the board doesn't give a shit themselves.
I've given up on the board now. I don't they will sack Ole until it becomes clear beyond any reasonable doubt that he won;t make top four. All the while it's still a possibility, however remote, they won't sack him.
Never has the disconnect between the fans and the board been more evident than today.
We, the fans, believe United should be challenging Liverpool and City for the title year after year, but the Glazers and Ed - though I'm sure they'd enjoy the prize money from winning the league - are content so long as we're playing in the CL every season. We're singing from entitely different hymn sheets. We want one thing, they want another.
The Glazers simply must go.
Imagine how monumentally thick it would be to keep Ole in charge over an international break, while he slinks off on holiday, and then sack him after losing to Watford with a CL game 2 days later.
Just imagine.
Yeah? That's what's going to happen.
Just imagine.
Yeah? That's what's going to happen.
Obviously not. There are few choices available. Ole has done fine up til now. Small steps in the right direction. He has been up against the wall before, and has come out stronger. Belittling him doesn’t change that. We have started building a squad, and need to continue in the same philosophy. Our under 23’s is packet with talent, and we are close to a competitive 11. We can’t hire “Conte”, or anyone else who will take us back. We need to continue. Either Ole salvage the bad start, or we go with a manger who can build on our formation. Haag, or Zidane with his 4-3-3 is obviously our best choice. But will they come now?
short term, and long term. If they won’t, our best option until Christmas is actually Ole. Whether you like it or not.
Just fecking mutiny and get it over with.
We've seen what happened against Liverpool, City and Leicester. Leaving in charge against Chelsea and Arsenal is just guaranteed losses.
We've seen what happened against Liverpool, City and Leicester. Leaving in charge against Chelsea and Arsenal is just guaranteed losses.
Ronaldo had maybe our best team of all time, Pogba for the majority of his time here has had our worst squad for the last 30 years. Ronaldo's been here for 2 months now and there's already reports of him wanting to go in the summer.
But for Ronaldo it's standards, for Pogba it's he's a snake.
Personally I think both are wrong, I'm just showing you the double standards.
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