Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

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Mainoldo

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Shhh. Don’t let facts get in the way of some good old fashioned mob propaganda.
Theres plenty of facts in there. Like where they was at and how they left.

But McKenna was a successful COO. Only difference there’s a big difference from Kiddy’s football to the big boys. As we all can see on the pitch.
 

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Theres plenty of facts in there. Like where they was at and how they left.

But McKenna was a successful COO. Only difference there’s a big difference from Kiddy’s football to the big boys. As we all can see on the pitch.
The second line is a load of cock that anyone with half a brain would realise. That tells me everything I need to know about the creator - either he doesn’t have half a brain or he’s manipulating the facts deliberately - either way I have zero interest in their opinion.
 

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I just desperately want him out without having United crash and burn, a 3-2 defeat is the best case scenario if it's true that Ronaldo's late goal against Atalanta saved his job. :(
I want him gone whatever the cost, which is a horrible situation to be in but it will not get better until that happens.

I don’t think people realise how close we are to getting dumped out of the group at this stage (or at least relying on other teams). We should have been 4-0 down to them at OT but somehow got a 2-1 win with a last min winner.
 

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I want him gone whatever the cost, which is a horrible situation to be in but it will not get better until that happens.

I don’t think people realise how close we are to getting dumped out of the group at this stage. We should have been 4-0 down to them at OT but somehow got a 2-1 win with a last min winner.
We were in an even better position last season leading the group comfortably before we ended up crashing out into Europa so it's always a possibility with this lot.

Maybe Ronaldo changes things this time with his unyielding determination in Europe but I wouldn't say we're in the clear at all
 
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It was partly to stop City signing one of our legends and winning Ch Lge and/or Prem which would have made made us an even bigger laughing stock. Ronaldo would have died in the eyes of Utd supporters if that had have happened as well.
So, yes, a non football decision
 

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We were in an even better position last season leading the group comfortable before we ended up crashing out into Europa so it's always a possibility with this lot.

Maybe Ronaldo changes things this time with his unyielding determination in Europe but I wouldn't say we're in the clear at all
Oh course Ronaldo changes things mate, he's gained us 5 points on his own in the CL, without them we'd be out.
 

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They don't want to part with their lovable compliant yes man. They'll be praying he can pull off a miracle and turn it around. If we lose to Watford he really is toast though.
I really don't understand how people can keep saying things like this, look at how we're being ran.
 

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I want him gone whatever the cost, which is a horrible situation to be in but it will not get better until that happens.

I don’t think people realise how close we are to getting dumped out of the group at this stage (or at least relying on other teams). We should have been 4-0 down to them at OT but somehow got a 2-1 win with a last min winner.
Yeah if Villarreal beat us by just one goal (I reckon this should be an easy 2-0 or 3-0 to them) we will be on 0 GD while they will be 3 points ahead of us on +5. Even if they lose to Atalanta by just a goal in the final game, we will have to beat Young Boys by 4 which is never happening. Our hope is that Atalanta fail to beat YB, or fail to beat Villarreal in their last game.
 

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Of course our assistant coaches are going to suck, ole doesn't have an impressive CV, no one promising would want to study under ole when there's dozens of better managers to learn from across Europe. Assistant coaches want to manage one day, they aren't going to bet their future learning from someone who relegated Cardiff. Ole doesn't have an impressive network of coaches he knows. The club may have been able to fill the roles with good options with their checkbook but they didn't.
 

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The coach list doesn't even mention Ramsay. Our new set piece guru who, like McKenna, has zero experience of coaching any level above u18s and only got the job because he was mates with McKenna at uni.
 

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The coach list doesn't even mention Ramsay. Our new set piece guru who, like McKenna, has zero experience of coaching any level above u18s and only got the job because he was mates with McKenna at uni.
Ah yes, how could we forget the vaunted set piece 'specialist' from Chelsea who's helped us become the only side in the league not to score a single non-penalty set piece goal yet this season.

Got a real who's who of experience and expertise in the backroom...
 

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I really don't understand how people can keep saying things like this, look at how we're being ran.
Exactly. Results don’t matter. We’ve just picked up 4 points from the last 6 games and all we got is leaks that his job is safe.
 

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But McKenna was a successful COO. Only difference there’s a big difference from Kiddy’s football to the big boys. As we all can see on the pitch.
Problem is, I have a difficulty judging coaches when it's clear the manager has no vision of the football he wants to play. Put McKenna under someone else, and maybe he can implement his style brilliantly.

I think that in any industry, an employer will struggle if the man incharge of him, who has a massive influence over his work, is clueless.
 

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Yeah if Villarreal beat us by just one goal (I reckon this should be an easy 2-0 or 3-0 to them) we will be on 0 GD while they will be 3 points ahead of us on +5. Even if they lose to Atalanta by just a goal in the final game, we will have to beat Young Boys by 4 which is never happening. Our hope is that Atalanta fail to beat YB, or fail to beat Villarreal in their last game.
We can’t go into that last game needing Atalanta to not win. It will not end well for us.
 

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Holy mother of God. A real who's who of losers. (Sorry Carrick, just saying.)
Carrick is the least of the problems. At most you could just say he has no experience. The others however, their CV's are disastrous for a club of this level.
 

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Problem is, I have a difficulty judging coaches when it's clear the manager has no vision of the football he wants to play. Put McKenna under someone else, and maybe he can implement his style brilliantly.

I think that in any industry, an employer will struggle if the man incharge of him, who has a massive influence over his work, is clueless.
Good poin. I gave him that excuse under Jose. But this time it seems? He’s still been left up to his own devices. Plus if what you saying was the case I’m sure they would of made him interim manager
 

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The spurs win really ruined our season, what joke that it was enough for a stay of execution. Now I've read that beating Watford is all he needs?

The clowns running this club disgust me.
 

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We can’t go into that last game needing Atalanta to not win. It will not end well for us.
To be honest I don’t really care that much. When we meet any team that has made it into the last 16 with Ole in charge it will end in tears anyway. The way they play Ajax or Bayern would put 10 past us over two legs.
 

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Good poin. I gave him that excuse under Jose. But this time it seems? He’s still been left up to his own devices. Plus if what you saying was the case I’m sure they would of made him interim manager
Surely not. I find it unfathomable to think that the manager has no influence over the football we play.

Surely they decide together on that and Solskjaer let's the coaches decide how to run training and implement that. But McKenna and Carrick don't decide everything themselves, do the work during the week, and on Saturday Solskjaer comes in and finds out how we'll play....

It's the same issue I have with the players. Have we really given them the best chance to shine when they've been managed by Mourinho and Solskjaer? McKenna is a young coach who has been working for two under par managers. You can't expect him to save them from themselves.
 

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Surely not. I find it unfathomable to think that the manager has no influence over the football we play.

Surely they decide together on that and Solskjaer let's the coaches decide how to run training and implement that. But McKenna and Carrick don't decide everything themselves, do the work during the week, and on Saturday Solskjaer comes in and finds out how we'll play....

It's the same issue I have with the players. Have we really given them the best chance to shine when they've been managed by Mourinho and Solskjaer? McKenna is a young coach who has been working for two under par managers. You can't expect him to save them from themselves.
Hard to tell isn’t it. We know Ole is.a bs’er. But from what he says he doesn’t do the coaching. Which going off Fergie meant he’d instruct the coaching staff how he pictured the game going or what he would like to see in a game and it then being there job to implement it.

Only issue we have seen from the leaks is that the coaches see and believe one thing then come game time Ole changes his mind.

The fact that he can change his mind means to me they are doing their own thing.

With Fergie they would disagree on tactics but he had the final say and that’s what they would have to deliver. Ole’s just changing his mind and players are told in the Changing room we aren’t doing that anymore.
 

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Assuming that coaching list is true it's just an abomination. How did this happen? How does one of the biggest clubs in the world end up with a bunch of failed coaches? Beyond a joke.
 
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