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[hobbers]

none of whom were proven to have lethal intent or the means to kill Rittenhouse.

So you didn't follow any of the details of this then, or what?

Because they all showed intent to kill and, depending on how you define a jump kick to the head, at least 2 of them had the means to kill.

 

[MarylandMUFan]

Was just thinking about the Zimmerman thread back in the day.

Never thought I'd end up being the MJS of a thread. Thankfully not resorted to posting male porn to get banned yet.

Sorry about calling you a redneck, I was just being too reactive (and clearly uninformed).

 

[Zaphod2319]

Watching MSNBC coverage as they will be the most critical. All their lawyers are saying the prosecution really didnt prove their case.

 

[maniak]

Exactly he orchestrated it all and a part of him knew this would be the outcome. They have no fear because they know they can just pull the victim card and literally get away with murder

Absolutely, it's impossible to ignore the way these feckers acted beforehand, acting like they were going to afghanistan.

 

[VorZakone]

So will Wisconsin laws be scrutinized then?

 

[Drainy]

Sorry about calling you a redneck, I was just being too reactive (and clearly uninformed).

S'all good

 

[maniak]

You're asking if most people here (Redcafe you mean?) would be defending a black guy doing the same as Rittenhouse did? I'm pretty sure they would.

What? Are you serious? Can you quote a few posts?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I can't read minds, no, but when I put everything together I can't conclude anything else.

Well that probably says more about you than it does about him.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Watching MSNBC coverage as they will be the most critical. All their lawyers are saying the prosecution really didnt prove their case.

I agree with that and wonder what the motive was. From what I know about prosecuting attorneys they don't like to take cases they think they can't win. So why did they fail so badly here? My suspicion is that they were protecting the city of Kenosha, Kenosha country and the police from financial damages.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

A travesty but at leat the state of Wisconsin has saved the city of Kenosha, Kenosha county and their local police force(s) from having to pay out $20 million in damages.

They are going to pay more than that for the police force and for the rebuilding efforts after Kenosha gets burned to the ground this weekend.

 

[maniak]

Well that probably says more about you than it does about him.

OK Pogue... yeah that's it, I'm secretly fantasizing about killing people I hate.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

They are going to pay more than that for the police force and for the rebuilding efforts after Kenosha gets burned to the ground this weekend.

It's possible but I wouldn't expect that kind of foresight from government.

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

They are going to pay more than that for the police force and for the rebuilding efforts after Kenosha gets burned to the ground this weekend.

Sadly this is definitely going to happen let's hope no more lives are lost.

 

[MarylandMUFan]

Is their a civil case against Rittenhouse by the families of the victims?

 

[VorZakone]

What? Are you serious? Can you quote a few posts?

Quote who and what exactly? There is no trial involving a black kid and a corresponding thread about it.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

OK Pogue... yeah that's it, I'm secretly fantasizing about killing people I hate.

I think he means you're biased and judging because of ideology, not that you're secretly fantasizing about killing people.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

Quote who and what exactly? There is no trial involving a black kid and a corresponding thread about it.

No doubt. Almost everybody makes this case about race. It's disgusting, no matter from which biased side it comes.

Edit:
I meant that part that you wrote: "But I'm actually 100% confident a black kid would get the same sympathy as Rittenhouse on Redcafe."

 

[maniak]

Quote who and what exactly? There is no trial involving a black kid so I can look up the comments. But I'm actually 100% confident a black kid would get the same sympathy as Rittenhouse on Redcafe.

Wow, you honestly think people would defend a killer just because he is black? Or because he killed maga folks? I don't know what to say...

 

[Dan_F]

‘Murica

 

[Zaphod2319]

They are going to pay more than that for the police force and for the rebuilding efforts after Kenosha gets burned to the ground this weekend.

Unless a lot of out of town people flock there, I don’t see that happening.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

OK Pogue... yeah that's it, I'm secretly fantasizing about killing people I hate.

That’s not what I mean. It paints you as someone with a very black and white, fixed way of thinking. Leaping to extreme conclusions based on not much evidence.

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

Trouble is, most people have a difficult time leaving out their cultural and political views when analyzing a situation like this. Instead of looking just at the legal issues, most privilege their preferred moral outcome over the facts.

It is a bit difficult to find the equivalent of the situation in the UK. The closest I can think of is if I went onto a London Street dressed as Michael Myers from Halloween and had a machete on me. To be honest I would expect my head to be bashed in for sure. And unlikely to get off on a self defense if I stabbed someone.

 

[maniak]

I think he means you're biased and judging because of ideology, not that you're secretly fantasizing about killing people.

OK I misinterpreted it then, I'm sorry.

 

[maniak]

That’s not what I mean. It paints you as someone with a very black and white, fixed way of thinking. Leaping to extreme conclusions based on not much evidence.

Fair enough I'm sorry I misunderstood you. I guess we disagree on the evidence then.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Trouble is, most people have a difficult time leaving out their cultural and political views when analyzing a situation like this. Instead of looking just at the legal issues, most privilege their preferred moral outcome over the facts.

Legal issues like a judge bending his interpretation of existing law that would in no way apply to the situation to ensure that someone doesn't go down on a charge that should have been open and shut?

 

[Martial'sEmergingSmile]

Torn.

It's obviously the correct decision, but if ever I'd have liked a miscarriage of justice it'd probably have been here.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

OK I misinterpreted it then, I'm sorry.

I, personally, think that he went there with a certain expectation and was probably ready to kill. I mean, that's why you have a deadly weapon with you, right? But even if so, his intent before said situation occured is not relevant, as his new intent was formed once he was himself confronted with the possibility of deadly assault.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Fair enough I'm sorry I misunderstood you. I guess we disagree on the evidence then.

To be honest, I’m just wading in without knowing a whole load of detail about the case. So no need to apologise! Based on what I have read, though, it seems like a hell of a stretch to be absolutely 100% certain he went there intending to kill someone.

 

[VorZakone]

Wow, you honestly think people would defend a killer just because he is black? Or because he killed maga folks? I don't know what to say...

He'd get a lot more sympathy I expect. Example:

That's actually an interesting point. If a black kid did that and killed a couple of white Trump supporters (in the same manor, but lets say he had a pistol instead), I would have probably been much more sympathetic which does show my bias.

 

[maniak]

I, personally, think that he went there with a certain expectation and was probably ready to kill. I mean, that's why you have a deadly weapon with you, right? But even if so, his intent before said situation occured is not relevant, as his new intent was formed once he was himself confronted with the possibility of deadly assault.

I'm not a lawyer. If the law allows for that to happen, it's just absurd. You go into a place with a gun to stir shit up, when someone responds then you're just defending yourself? OK then...

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

That's actually an interesting point. If a black kid did that and killed a couple of white Trump supporters (in the same manor, but lets say he had a pistol instead), I would have probably been much more sympathetic which does show my bias.

Wouldn't make a difference for me (assuming all the important facts, etc were the same).

If you go somewhere with a weapon (you shouldn't have), pretend to be an EMT, get involved in a decision you could have easily avoided and end up killing/injuring people, I don't have a lot of sympathy.

 

[caid]

To be honest, I’m just wading in without knowing a whole load of detail about the case. So no need to apologise! Based on what I have read, though, it seems like a hell of a stretch to be absolutely 100% certain he went there intending to kill someone.

Dont think its a stretch at all. I think its pretty hard to interpret in any other way. Cant be 100% certain obviously, maybe he's just braindead stupid and didn't expect the reaction he got, but it was a pretty predictable reaction.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

I'm not a lawyer. If the law allows for that to happen, it's just absurd. You go into a place with a gun to stir shit up, when someone responds then you're just defending yourself? OK then...

That is not how it went down.

 

[maniak]

To be honest, I’m just wading in without knowing a whole load of detail about the case. So no need to apologise! Based on what I have read, though, it seems like a hell of a stretch to be absolutely 100% certain he went there intending to kill someone.

Maybe he was convinced having an intimidating weapon would be enough for him to feel like a big man and people would just run off scared, but surely it must have crossed his mind someone might attack him and he'd need to shot them.

 

[Rado_N]

He’ll be at a Trump rally soon.

 

[Zaphod2319]

Defense attorney interview is right now. He said the prosecutor said Rittenhouse chased his victims down. That was something we could go after.

 

[maniak]

That is not how it went down.

At the core of it, it really was.

 

[The Corinthian]

Congratulations @Drainy.

 

[maniak]

He'd get a lot more sympathy I expect. Example:

Fair enough, I'm surprised and a bit shocked.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

You're asking if most people here (Redcafe you mean?) would be defending a black guy doing the same as Rittenhouse did? I'm pretty sure they would.

Without anything to back that up, that's just assumption and generalising. What some posters are being accused of with their comments about why Rittenhouse was there.

There's always a variety of views but I think most people critical of Rittenhouse are critical because (based on not a lot of information granted), he comes across as a scummy tw@t who wants to be Billy Big Bollocks... be interesting to see how he acts in coming days, weeks, months...

... if he gets the chance to.