Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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Josep Dowling

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So let me get this straight. We were embarrassed by Villa, Leicester, Liverpool, City, drew to Atalanta. A two week International break was the perfect time to sack him. Nothing happens. Get smashed by Watford. The board has an emergency meeting that every single person in the media is aware about. Ole is sacked but replaced when Fletcher and Carrick, who are already involved with the shambles on the pitch. How are we this badly run?

Surely you always have a back up plan should things go wrong. I read a few years ago Southampton always have a list of up to 8 managers they would contact should they need to sack the manager. Where is the succession planning?
 

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Fergie should come out for the remainder of the season.
Sadly, I don’t think the great man’s health would hold out, plus this would be history repeating itself with another Busby move. I’d rather Ferguson’s last game in charge be as a champion.
 

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This is a risky job to take right now. A grossly unbalanced squad with rampant egos and an incompetent board. A managerial reputation could easily be in tatters by spring.

My worry is that the elite level managers we need (Poch, ETH, Zidane) will be saying no thanks, at least until the summer when they could work with the squad and have a transfer window to change things.

Leaving the odds and ends. The ones many years past their best (Blanc), the not quite good enough (Rodgers), the complete gambles (Potter, Lopetegui etc).

But we're still so early in the season that we can't ask an interim like Fletcher to busk it until May because we could genuinely drop to lower mid-table.

What an unbelievable mess. Which could all have been solved by giving Conte an 18 month contract. Books will be written on this clusterfeck of a board.

I suspect they'll go with Blanc to steady the ship until May, and it'll be another disaster.
I think the squad is 1-2 midfielders away from being world class. We need to sell an attacker or 2 for squad balance but this squad on paper should excite most managers
 

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A lot of managers have a shelf life. Mourhino and Benetiez are prime examples. I think Poch and Rodgers fall into that category now. Time to move on. What the choice was 3 years ago, is totally different now.

I’m not sure who the next manager should be because I don’t really follow European football in depth to give an opinion, but what I do know is who definitely shouldn’t be the next manager.
Good post. These are my thoughts, I haven't a clue who should be next manager, Conte would have been perfect, and that is so frustrating.

We need someone to shake the team up and inspire the players, get some organisation, and see the season out.

But I have no idea who that person is. A flamin' shambles, and that's the responsibility of the Board.
 

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We are idiots for missing out on Conte when he was available a few weeks ago
 

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So let me get this straight. We were embarrassed by Villa, Leicester, Liverpool, City, drew to Atalanta. A two week International break was the perfect time to sack him. Nothing happens. Get smashed by Watford. The board has an emergency meeting that every single person in the media is aware about. Ole is sacked but replaced when Fletcher and Carrick, who are already involved with the shambles on the pitch. How are we this badly run?

Surely you always have a back up plan should things go wrong. I read a few years ago Southampton always have a list of up to 8 managers they would contact should they need to sack the manager. Where is the succession planning?
You’d think that after Liverpool and City they might have seen this coming, wouldn’t you?
 

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I’m set on ten Hag, for no other reason than he feels like an exciting and dynamic proposition with what he’s doing at Ajax.

For some reason I am against Zidane because he is such a “Manchester United” Woodward Disneyland sort of appointment.

My lack of knowledge of both (other than their achievements) only highlights how ridiculous my reasoning is, but I have never had my first choice become United manager ever (I wanted Howard Kendal when Atkinson was fired), and I feel the board should recognise that’s it’s all about me and they should give me what I want.

I am more than happy to be quoted if ten Hag is a car crash or Zidane is a champion.

If we end up with Duck Dodgers, mines a pint (several), and I’ll see you at the Throstle’s Nest.
 

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Like many have said, Conte was the answer. An elite-level manager was available and we lost him because we couldn’t make a decision that was clear as day after the Liverpool defeat. Our board deserves everything they get…
 

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Desperate times need desperate measures! We are showing relegation form at the moment so this means there is only one man for the job - Fireman Big Sam! :eek:
 

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My preference would be a British manager who can help putting the right structure in place and sets out to play modern high pressure football as we see Shitty, the scousers and Chelsea play. Best candidate to meet those requirements is probably Potter.
 

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This is a risky job to take right now. A grossly unbalanced squad with rampant egos and an incompetent board. A managerial reputation could easily be in tatters by spring.

My worry is that the elite level managers we need (Poch, ETH, Zidane) will be saying no thanks, at least until the summer when they could work with the squad and have a transfer window to change things.

Leaving the odds and ends. The ones many years past their best (Blanc), the not quite good enough (Rodgers), the complete gambles (Potter, Lopetegui etc).

But we're still so early in the season that we can't ask an interim like Fletcher to busk it until May because we could genuinely drop to lower mid-table.

What an unbelievable mess. Which could all have been solved by giving Conte an 18 month contract. Books will be written on this clusterfeck of a board.

I suspect they'll go with Blanc to steady the ship until May, and it'll be another disaster.
This is not a grossly unbalanced squad. A decent manager will get a great tune out of this team. Organise the defence and watch. Banish Fred and see what VDB can do and create a style of play.
 

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Can anyone name one potential manager that is likely to join mid season.
I dont think Zidane wants the job and the rest is not going to break contract mid season for these lazy players.
From the players performance in the last to games we sound be happy to avoid relegation.
 

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Oh come on

Didn’t do anything great afterwards?

He went on to win a load of trophies in Scotland, ok it’s Scotland, but he won several trophies with Celtic, rebuilt his stock, jumped to Leicester who had be flirting with the middle of the table for a few seasons, Rodgers comes in and they suddenly start challenging for top 4 winning the FA Cup.

That’s all pretty darn good if you ask me.

I’m not saying he’d be suitable for United, I don’t think United should go for him is my personal opinion.

But to suggest he’s done nothing great is imo blindsightedness.

He’s obviously a good manager, just because he’s not suited for United at this moment in time doesn’t mean he’s a nothing manager.
Good. Not great, in my opinion. Performed at the same level with Celtic as Lennon did.

His FA Cup win was very good, and perhaps great (that being said, cup is cup), but Leicesters performance in the league is probably where they should be with a squad like that. What Moyes did with West Ham last year, and is doing this year, is probably more impressive in my opinion.

Furthermore, his failure this year is all the more telling for Rodgers.
 

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This is not a grossly unbalanced squad. A decent manager will get a great tune out of this team. Organise the defence and watch. Banish Fred and see what VDB can do and create a style of play.
A great cdm is the spine of any team. We have been missing that for years.
No manager can fix that
 
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Was wondering where the feck this Julen Lopetegui nonsense was coming from then I took a quick look at the La Liga table and realised Sevilla are top of the league. That's the extent of the research done on him by the people in charge...
 

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I have no idea what Lopetegui has done to be rumoured and hopefully it's just his agent doing a good job.

https://forum.monchismen.com/t/opinions-on-lopetegui/1053/54

The stats support what they say. Solid defensive coach in La Liga (through high possession and not letting his players dribble say the stats) but boring. So basically exactly what you'd expect from a manager who has the 4th/5th best team in Spain finishing 4th every season by building a solid defensive unit around what good but not great Spanish players do best (pass the ball). They switch it a ton, more than any other team in the league, which again makes sense if you play a bog standard 4-3-3 and look to keep high possession to keep clean sheets. Sevilla scored 54 goals 2 years ago and 53 last year, which is worryingly low.
 

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My preference would be a British manager who can help putting the right structure in place and sets out to play modern high pressure football as we see Shitty, the scousers and Chelsea play. Best candidate to meet those requirements is probably Potter.
Why does the manager have to be British?
 

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I bet it's gonna be Rodgers. Our amazing board were probably like "What name should we brief to media so that even Rodgers would sound like an amazing hire?" and they came up with Spanish Moyes.
 

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I bet it's gonna be Rodgers. Our amazing board were probably like "What name should we brief to media so that even Rodgers would sound like an amazing hire?" and they came up with Spanish Moyes.
:lol:
 

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The Lopetegui better be links coming from his side.

He is nowhere near deserving of the job.
 

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Was wondering where the feck this Julen Lopetegui nonsense was coming from then I took a quick look at the La Liga table and realised Sevilla are top of the league. That's the extent of the research done on him by the people in charge...
Says the poster who had to check said table to see how Sevilla where actually doing but had his mind made up about Lopetegui anyway…
 

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Because I would prefer somebody in charge who understands the British football institution that is Manchester United. Ethnicity isn’t important, as long as it’s a Brit.
But why do they have to be British to understand the club and its ethos?

Do you think Klopp doesn't understand Liverpool?
 

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The Lopetegui better be links coming from his side.

He is nowhere near deserving of the job.
Its arguable and there are better candidates. BUT if its Lopetegui vs Brentan I'm taking Lopetegui every f'n day of the week.
 

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Says the poster who had to check said table to see how Sevilla where actually doing but had his mind made up about Lopetegui anyway…
A manager that infamously couldn't handle the Madrid dressing room getting a United job. What could possibly go wrong? But I'm sure the being top of the table in November while Madrid and Barcelona are a mess trophy is high on our recruitment criteria.
 

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But why do they have to be British to understand the club and its ethos?

Do you think Klopp doesn't understand Liverpool?
Living in The Netherlands I can ensure you most Dutch don’t really understand just how big the club is and what the club is about.
 

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Living in The Netherlands I can ensure you most Dutch don’t really understand just how big the club is and what the club is about.
Fair enough, but Ole knew how big the club is and what it's about and it didn't help him much.

Maybe Ten Hag would understand the club. Maybe he wouldn't.
 

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Do worry that Lopetegui is another Emery. Good manager that plays boring football and ultimately won't get us to where we want to be.
 
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