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Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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Right?! I am not against ten Hag at all but people in here seem to believe he is the answer to all our problems…The hard on for Ten Hag on the Caf is hilarious!
Poch before him for me, I guess I am not hipster enough.
If we can either get Poch or ten Hag no one can complain but i am avoiding this place for a while if we manage to get poch
Also don‘t forget what happened with Bosz after he was hyped in here. (For the record i rate ten Hag more but still …)
You can be sure PSG will be fully focused in Feb, same as Real Madrid and Barcelona… and in/out games are usually won by the teams with higher attacking talent.
Too much hyperbole in here he’s not shit, but he is what he is. I mean if he is genuinely considering leaving PSG midsession, with a guaranteed title it tells you what he is about.
I can’t believe people are using possession stats to beat Poch. PSG had 46% possession against City tonight.
They weren’t good by the way. But I am never really impressed with that team in CL. It was the same under any manager really (Emery, Tuchel). They lack cohesion as a unit and that is because some players are bigger then the club or manager and can do what they want. It’s an unmanageable team in my opinion. Too much politics as Tuchel said. Everybody knows it, in France anyway. There is always bullsh*t stories that are disturbing from football. It’s more of a circus then a football club.
PSG is not the criteria to judge Poch in my opinion.
Anyway, I voted Ten Hag but he can be a flop. You don’t know how he will handle all the primadonnas and the pressure that comes here. And if he can’t do that, pretty football will be useless…
Poch is not a bad choice I think. It went bad at Tottenham when he wanted to leave already really. I remember him saying he would quit if he win the CL. That’s not the speech of a manager that wanted to be there. IMO, he got tired by the financial restrains he worked with at Tottenham and he knew he could not compete there and that his career will stagnate.
At the end of the day, both can be successful at the club as both can fail badly.
They weren’t good by the way. But I am never really impressed with that team in CL. It was the same under any manager really (Emery, Tuchel). They lack cohesion as a unit and that is because some players are bigger then the club or manager and can do what they want. It’s an unmanageable team in my opinion. Too much politics as Tuchel said. Everybody knows it, in France anyway. There is always bullsh*t stories that are disturbing from football. It’s more of a circus then a football club.
PSG is not the criteria to judge Poch in my opinion.
Anyway, I voted Ten Hag but he can be a flop. You don’t know how he will handle all the primadonnas and the pressure that comes here. And if he can’t do that, pretty football will be useless…
Poch is not a bad choice I think. It went bad at Tottenham when he wanted to leave already really. I remember him saying he would quit if he win the CL. That’s not the speech of a manager that wanted to be there. IMO, he got tired by the financial restrains he worked with at Tottenham and he knew he could not compete there and that his career will stagnate.
At the end of the day, both can be successful at the club as both can fail badly.
I’m sure the game before the CL final they drew at anfield being the far better side. Seem to remember sissoko missing a 3 on 1 with the keeper late on.
Yes and no. Busquets obviously is better than any DM PSG has, but that 2015 Barca team had Rakitic as clear first choice. Xavi was in his final season there aged 35. Rafinha got 35 appearances! They were significantly worse than prime Barca in midfield that year and looked better when MSN could just play on the counter and be devastating than when they dominated possesion and I think Verrati would have been first choice along with Busquets and then one of Rakitic/Xavi/Iniesta.
I have zero idea who would win a battle between Herrera, Gueye and Fred to start next to Verrati, with Danilo sitting. They all seem interchangeable.
Stand corrected. He’s the man, he’s doing his thing!
Get Poch and we'll guarantee Top 4 every year. It's a no brainer.
Poch has never convinced me. Don't get why everyone loves him so much on here. Didn't like the way Spurs played under him, can't get PSG to play well despite having the best players in the world, never won anything.. it's all very meh. Not a bad manager, but not a great one either. Surely we can do better?
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To be fair he did win the cup last season.
Individual player wise this team is better. What make a team would need the influence of the manager, which Tuchel is better and elevate that 18-19 than the sum of the parts, this season PSG has shown.
Better midfield options, two good full backs. Didn't lose anything up front, and Messi is Messi. Having a young world class already GK for rotation, and in near future the starting GK. If this happened last season, perhaps Tuchel wouldn't fall out and leave mid season.
Some said they were bigger than us when they wouldn’t sell Sancho, when Bellingham chose them.
Well you said nothing..
The only thing that worries me is that Poch is willing to compromise his tactical principles to accommodate big egos. If he does that at Old Trafford we will be back to square two if not one.
PSG have always been like that though. Everyone here is singing Tuchel praises but he lost to Ole in the UCL.
Oh but he reached the final. Yeah he beat Dortmund, Atalanta and Leipzig in a covid delayed/hit one legged Knockout stage run.
PSG seem to have an ego problem and even world class managers have went there and failed to bring the champions league back, Poch will be no different. Only Zidane can probably get those guys to listen to him, every other manager in world football will fail, either in implementing his system or gaining the respect of his players.
Oh but he reached the final. Yeah he beat Dortmund, Atalanta and Leipzig in a covid delayed/hit one legged Knockout stage run.
PSG seem to have an ego problem and even world class managers have went there and failed to bring the champions league back, Poch will be no different. Only Zidane can probably get those guys to listen to him, every other manager in world football will fail, either in implementing his system or gaining the respect of his players.
Well, that was silly.
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Those pesky rumours eh?
Sometimes you need what’s called balance. But you can’t have it when you have to play some players no matter what. And that’s the case at PSG.
It’s a nightmare of a club for any manager as Tuchel showed.
Yes sir! Officialy in the R16
Happy for you bro!
The same 18-19 team who lost against United's C team? What an elevation! It's obvious Tuchel is a better manager but I don't see what made this 18-19 team special, even if it was unlucky we lost against a United team we should have trashed.
Agreed, that's why I said other than Veratti. Personally I would go for a Busquets, Veratti and Iniesta. The thing is though PSG don't have an equivalent to Busquets who I'd say was probably the most important midfielder for Barca.
I get your point but personally I'd take Fred over those 2. Though, I can see why you'd think it will be close.
Well, team sports with free-flowing rules just favor firepower against defense. Both Simeone and Allegri played 2 CL finals not so long ago, both not winning any. I still have PSG favorite against any other team in this CL, if they get Ramos back and have Verratti fit to cover for the noblest a*ses.
But the "you have to play some players no matter what" thing - is that fact, or theory? Poch's calling card is playing his first 11 players constantly no matter what, until they are burnt out or crippled.
Not sure why anyone would want to not play 3 of the best forwards in the world, anyway, just because they want to turn attackers into defenders. Zlatan would have been crap if he was forced to run around like Kane.
Monaco,Lyon and Chelsea did that too
....that he's not enjoying himself at PSG at all and there are problems backstage, that PSG might be looking at ZZ anyway and he knows it, that he always wanted a go at managing UTD, and that he fears the chance might not come round again. That's all it tells us.
Football is changing, you can't carry players out of possession anymore.
Knocked pep out the champions league with spurs.
Yeah we need to go head to head with those clubs, just don't see the relevance to LVG here. He may have gone head to head with the big clubs but that is of no use if you can't finish top 4 in what probably was the lowest quality PL season ever.
We need an ETH type manager who can modernise our approach to football. Poch was a breath of fresh air at Saints and early Spurs days but last few years he has been proper dull. Not the type we need to take us where we want to be. We've made that mistake before by getting managers on the wrong trajectory (LVG, Mourinho). Please sign a manager on the right trajectory for once.
Spurs played entertaining football during his reign, in my opinion. Some people claim he was the manager who introduced modern attacking football in PL; the way the best teams play today. Maybe it was Tottenham supporters
Neymar Cavani missed the game. PsG soundly beat us at OT, and in tactical fashion which saw the end of Pogba hot form as and advanced midfielder. Marquinhos marked his off the game. Pogba missed the return leg. Other team caught on containing Pogba. Ole then stopped trusting Pogba in that position, and in turn started his McFred love which grew into a big problem for us. I believe got more pragmatic since that season since you can't trust these guys not losing concentration and messing up.
That season you had Liverpool and Napoli in the group stage. It looked tough at some point but PSG looked on same footing as Liverpool on both leg (PSG won by head head away goal); who went on to have a great season winning CL, and record point for PL 2nd placed team. Liverpool was almost eliminated in CL group stage that season.
Playing like that can't be worse comparing to this season overall performance?
Think you have to arrive at judgement that there is a lack of the necessary ‘processing’ power, or a willingness to disregard context because of an emotional predisposition to an outcome.
Also whole thing’s gone binary again, Ten hag is bestest ever so Poch is crap etc. Maybe…. Just maybe… they are both excellent coaches… insane idea I know.
I think this picture speaks a thousand words.
4 City players pressing vs 4 PSG players watching Neymar dribble in his own half
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Nah, let them fight
I also think it’s funny United fans turning up their nose at any of the managers linked to the job. We had Solskjaer as manager. It’s like driving an old banger and arguing which is better a Porsche or a Ferrari…
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