Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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I like Poch. I was thinking on my drive home today how he made Schneiderlin look like a decent footballer.
Poch clearly improves players. I’m only concerned by the lack of trophies, nice guy approach.
No they pressed and got the ball and attacked while they were unorganized.
The likes of Greenwood and Rashford can be coached to press and it helps that they don't have massive egos. Martial will hopefully be sold either in January or next summer.
Neither will Pep, tbh. All of Pep's teams have the common trait of working extremely hard on and off the ball. Pep would never suffer Mbappe and Messi strolling around the field like they're having a nice walk. They'll have to adapt or leave his team, but here lies the problem - would he have the power to do so? Is he a big enough name for someone like Leonardo and the sheikh to allow him to do something of that sort? Obviously Poch is not, but I don't think even Pep would have that freedom. PSG are not a football club, they are more of a circus of stars that want to project an image, same way Perez Galacticos back in the day were. That's not how you build a successful team.
That's the whole argument though, PSG fans want to play Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and have more possession and outplay City, that was what the whole discussion was about
If you want to have more possession than City with those 3 playing you need a miracle not a manager.
I’m not interested unless we aim to dominate play. Counter attack can be a useful strategy in a situation but it absolutely should not be your default tactic. It’s destined to fail.
Poch is crap lolz etc.
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I think he could actually save us, have us dominate when Pep and Klopp leave. It feels inevitable that we always miss out on the right move though, so I have no expectation that we will get him. Expect him at city in 2024.
In general Neymar, on average they have a similar amount of tackles and pressure per game.
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Of course, no title is won in November and the real season starts in February, yet we are all writing/reading postmortem obituaries and big trophy presentations. I love football forums. 
With a back 3? Pochettino doesn't seem to care about the fact that it's obviously the best tactics. He didn't try it once in a big game.
PSG players want Zidane I reckon. This will play to our advantage. PSG were pretty lame - no chance they will win UCL like that.
It’s all pointless conjecture. SAF wants Poch and the board have wanted him for years. It will happen.
No thanks
It's strange when he surely watched what Tuchel did and would have seen all the systems used.
Mate it's actually insaneThe hard on for Ten Hag on the Caf is hilarious!
Poch before him for me, I guess I am not hipster enough.
. TIFO football has gripped the souls of men, for an unproven manager on any PL level.Poch has worked with a difficult board and done wonders. I feel Ten Haag is gonna need a few windows given the difference in structure at Ajax to Man United. I reckon Poch could do something quite quickly with a window and what we have now.
Aaaaand…. Congrats @SportingCP96 on your team’s achievement. Brilliant!
Exactly. How can you judge Poch when he can’t coach the way he wants to coach? Look at our defensive record with Ronaldo this season. And that’s with one player not working. PSG have three. Not only do they not press, they don’t defend and they don’t do what the manager wants because like you said, he doesn’t have control over them. I don’t get why people can’t see the difference this makes.
I've never considered Neymar a hard working player but I'll take your word that it does happen. But you have at least 2 of 3 attackers that are lazy. I thought Di Maria was one of your better attackers at times last season but often the other two were trying to turn it into the Neymar and Mbappe show.
With regards to your last paragraph, I kind of disagree. You press as a team to win the ball high and have a short distance to goal. Poch has done this at every club till now. You simply can't press if you have even one player not willing to at some extent. Having your attack unwilling to do it just kills the whole thing. I think your midfield could do it and it would reduce their issues with the ball.
I wasn't talking to you, not about City. I responded to a post about PSG's balance.That's the whole argument though, PSG fans want to play Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and have more possession and outplay City, that was what the whole discussion was about
If you want to have more possession than City with those 3 playing you need a miracle not a manager.
I’ve argued all week that Poch would be an idiot to stay just on the off chance of a CL win. City, Liverpool, Bayern, Chelsea would all beat them. They just aren’t a great side, the front 3 fool people but the 2018/19 squad/team was miles better.
We'll see how it goes when Ramos shows up (if he ever does), that might force him to try.
Too much knee jerk game to game - Not my first choice but am confident he could get us playing an attractive way and if he is first choice and willing to jump from PSG to come then I'm on board.
Biggest worries are his inability to get trophies over the line - and PSG fans are not convinced by him - but plenty of positives from his time at Southampton and Spurs.
Biggest worries are his inability to get trophies over the line - and PSG fans are not convinced by him - but plenty of positives from his time at Southampton and Spurs.
Me too. But I don’t get this structure that Ten Hag needs. I used to think that he did. But surely all he needs is to be a good coach and a say in recruitment and the academy. Exactly as Ole had. Plus a bit of patience to give him the time to reach players his style.Mate it's actually insane
Poch has worked with a difficult board and done wonders. I feel Ten Haag is gonna need a few windows given the difference in structure at Ajax to Man United. I reckon Poch could do something quite quickly with a window and what we have now.
I thought they were pretty good in spells today. The Neymar chance - they kept the bell for about 2 minutes working their way up the pitch being brave and beating the press - it would have been an amazing goal. City are exceptional though unfortunately.
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"So in France we are starting to understand that Messi is walking on the pitch and that Pochettino is an average coach."
At what point do we consider that a Dortmund are sh*te? Marco Rose has been spoken about glowingly too, I have no idea why,
I like Poch ive just never been 100% convinced. Has he ever beaten Pep or Klopp?
Which didn't? Pretty sure they all did.
On paper it clearly wasn't.
Beaten Pep 2 or 3 times I think. Got dominated by Klopp every time.
and someone else in the last hour said the hipsters choice is always rightbeat City 2-0 back in September.
Having better control of the game is different to having more possession. Pep's Bayern was picked apart by Luis Enrique and Pep Bayern had more possession. That Barcelona was not pinned back most of the game, not be able to enjoy themselves in possession, nor starved of chances.That's the whole argument though, PSG fans want to play Messi, Neymar, Mbappe and have more possession and outplay City, that was what the whole discussion was about
If you want to have more possession than City with those 3 playing you need a miracle not a manager.
That should be the preferred scenario for teams with top heavy attack, but can't trump Pep's team at possession game.
Thanks mate!!
Is he a hipsters choice? Or just the manager who followed Klopp and Tuchel? Maybe every manager Dortmund ever have is a hipster choice? I don’t make the rules.
Also, what are Roses achievements?
That's what happens when you're a small team and have some of your best players out injured.
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