Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Enigma_87

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Bosnian_fan said:
I'm only going to respond to this post now and will not take this further, because I feel it is going off-topic and right now, Ukraine is far more important.

You see, Bosnia is complicated state with two entities that are to some extent states themselves. Three constituents nations (Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats) all have their representatives and big decisions have to be made unanimously. For example, Bosnia has never recognized Kosovo, because Serbs won't allow it. Bosnia has not condemned Ukraine invasion, because Serbs won't allow it.

I can only speak about how people feel in Sarajevo and Bosniak dominated parts of state, but I'm sure the feeling is same among Croats. We are pro-western, having suffered a terrible war less than 30 years ago. USA is our biggest ally, and the only superpower generally trusted here. Serbs on the other hand align with Belgrade opinion, which is pro-Russian.

As for sentiments of ordinary people, we haven't forgotten war. Sarajevo was under siege for four years. We haven't had electricity, water, food. Scenes from Kyiv remind us of our war. People are stocking up on flour, salt, oil and sugar. Even if irrational, biggest chain of supermarkets has seen a surge in demand of these goods, publishing a response that people shouldn't panic.

This is as short as I could go, if you want something longer and in more detail, I could send you private message.
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Cheers, mate. I’m aware of the Balkan situation, here there always has been division with pro and anti NATO and also a big big Russian influence due to historical presence especially in the elderly population. I understand it’s pretty hard to come up with a unified stance as there are a lot of nations and different interests.
 

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To be clear - I have no idea what he's saying but just been following this guy on Twitter.
 

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Siorac said:
It was a huge relief that our government unequivocally and immediately sided with the EU position on this. I was really worried that Orbán and co. would end up on the wrong side of such a conflict but this shows they have no intention of turning away from the EU any time soon.
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Putin was banking on EU division, at the end so far it has backfired and put him in more difficult spot that he envisioned. Till the end of next week I fully expect all Europe to close the air space to him.
 

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Suv666 said:
Yup. Where do they think the money will come from? Welfare programs and public spending will suffer.
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Well yes but right now Im pretty glad UK has nukes and is a member of nato ... And if the pre requisite for that safety is spending 2% of GDP on military that seems a decent trade off... Even increasing that to 3% would have a pretty small impact on the overall amount of money available for other government spending

Plus if the choice is raise taxes by half a percent... And get rid of say the triple lock on pensions then I would take that over being bombed

The historic underspend Vs the 2% commitment from several NATO members should also be addressed I think.... Give them say 5 years to catch up the shortfall or membership is suspended
 

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TMDaines said:
As I have said previously, if you stick around until a country falls into war and you are a third-country national, don’t be surprised when officials from Ukraine and the EU prioritise their own citizens. There is a reason why Western countries told people to leave. It would be the same for UK citizens there.
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Evacuation should have happened earlier, I agree with this.
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I really hope this is real.
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Please be true.
 

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On a sidenote, why havent the corrupt FIFA executives banned Russia from the 2022 world cup in qatar? FIFA seem to be rather quiet. Maybe all those "corporate gifts" the executives get will dry up....
 

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dinostar77 said:
On a sidenote, why havent the corrupt FIFA executives banned Russia from the 2022 world cup in qatar? FIFA seem to be rather quiet. Maybe all those "corporate gifts" the executives get will dry up....
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Because Infantino is best buddies with Putin.
 

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The tweets about wanting peace talks with Ukraine and about Putin going nuclear because of sanctions seem a bit contradictory. Unless he's pulling out of Ukraine and going to war with the rest of the world.
 

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zing said:

To be clear - I have no idea what he's saying but just been following this guy on Twitter.
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As said, he has one card and he is overplaying it. At this point, I dont think he even has the home support to successfully authorize nuclear strikes. Its just looking more and more like desperation on Putin's part.
 

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Like I said yesterday, if he has gone completely insane he will use nukes over sanctions. I just pray his inner circle will have more sense than him because that could literally mean there is no life in Europe within 7 days. I really doubt anyone other than him in Russia would sanction this.
 

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Neo_Mufc said:
100k at rally in Berlin. Good work guys :)
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The rally is on "Straße des 17 Juni", which commemorates the uprising of Eastern Berlin against Soviet rule on 17 June 1953. Symbolic.

Hopefully, Ukraine's defense will be more successful, though...
 
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