The extent of his problems likely matter and make him an unreliable source of the truth is what I understand they are going for.
Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp | Depp wins on all 3 counts
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i.e getting beaten the shit out of? Trust me I am not taking her side alone. It's a two way street but why only point out this. Why not that Johnny Depp wanted a woman 20 years younger who he could easily control and manipulate, was desirable and sexy but couldn't handle the idea of her leading a hollywood lifestyle?
I only mentioned it because for weeks now we've been hearing all of Johnny's exes talk about how he's an amazing human being and not abusive at all. The point was that's not factually true and shows how much he has invested in positive PR.
His team will have 10 days to examine everything I’m expecting her to get absolutely rinsed I can’t wait
Oh of course and I get his witnesses could be loyal to him but he’s got an awful lot of people corroborating what he’s said so far. I feel her side (and again I might have missed something) don’t have anything so they’re basically saying this guy did loads of drugs and can’t be taken seriously. And that’s basically it.
The fact she constantly skirts around her own drug use is going to be something Depp's lawyer rips her to shreds about.
We'll see if she can prove that.
It's not a saturday night if I don't lop off one of my fingers and use it to draw dicks on walls.
Blood dicks on drywall or stucco is one of the highest forms of art known to man.
Nah man. Heard is coming across as an absolutely horrible person and has admitted abusing Depp. She has previous abusing her ex and her PA. I hope she gets absolutely ruined after this case as she does deserve it.
She drinks more than him, does MDMA & shrooms & has a self-reported cocaine addiction in her medical notes (despite her just testifying that she'd never do cocaine and I'm sure she'll be destroyed on that in cross). He has an abundance of witnesses, including people that are NOT employed by him, before you fire back with that bias. She has zero witnesses, only her testimony despite her being an even less reliable witness. It's definitely their strategy but it's weak.
Proof or no proof is another can of worms. I just don't think she "sounds" like someone who just doesn't like Depp's high fly lifestyle or whatever.
Depp is not short of takers for role of his girlfriend/wife. Amber Heard is nothing special, neither in the looks department nor the acting department. She offers him nothing he couldn't get easily. Any big star has no trouble getting laid, even by women 20 years younger than they are. It's her allegation alone that he "beat the shit out of" her, and that's why they are in court.
It sounds like both of them took too many drugs and drank too much, but being a drunken idiot isn't what this case is about. I think you can look at how a lot of women left relationships with famous men, with the idea of having their own career and not admitting they used their more famous husband for roles. Sondra Locke tried it but was blackballed. Nicole Kidman tried it and was able to keep her career going. Katie Holmes hasn't had as easy a time of it. In any event, someone leaving a marriage is not happy for a myriad of reasons, and any one of them can be legitimate without being illegal. What Heard publicly alleged is that Depp beat her. From the evidence presented, if he beat her, she beat him just as much or worse. Her problem is she tried to make a martyr herself as a "domestic abuse survivor" when anyone who knew them knew she gave as good as she got.
They both suck. I don't know why I'm even on this thread. I was curious as to what others thought, I guess.
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Wtf? This thread is so nasty…
I added to my comment right after you quoted it, but I'm just seeing your response now.
The person I was answering contended that Amber Heard was some kind of unicorn that Depp was lucky to get, and I'm pointing out that she really isn't all that.
What a weird take. As I already mentioned, she offered plenty to him in terms of someone to abuse. This line of thinking you have is one of the reasons these weird Johnny Depp fans are all over the internet claiming he is some 100% innocent victim here without any doubt.
BTW, while we are arguing here a high court has already decided that Depp was indeed responsible for 12 counts of domestic violence towards Amber Heard.
People forget Johnny Depp tried to overrule this before but couldn't bring substantial proof to court.
Fair enough. The edited, longer version is less icky. There’s so many grubby takes in this thread I probably took it out on yours when it wasn’t actually the worst.
I did not say that at all. You were talking about Amber Heard being some disposable object that wouldn't hold much value to Johnny Depp because of her looks and status. Ridiculous. As if Abuse can't take place if the person is not as relevant?
As I said she was a beautiful high status Hollywood actress who was 20 years younger than him who he obviously did not respect enough
The complaint about her being dressed like a tramp was a particular highlight I thought.
I don't think she had any proof had she?
Weird in all the recordings they have been making of each other he seems to have a lot of tapes off her admitting to hiting him but unless I missed it she doesn't have the same on him.
He could just be better at not admitting it I guess
Lot of pictures of him sleeping or crying in the bathroom are all I've really seen so far
My point is if you're gonna play this game, why not mention the common pattern of:
A list middle aged hollywood male marrying a B/C list pretty actress 20/30 years younger than him which makes them easy victims for power abuse.
Actually, you're still saying it.
This thread is the equivalent to that footage of people outside the court room, cheering for Depp and treating him like a rockstar.
They should both be discarded from the public eye and punished, buts it's obvious the majority have sided one way.
Unbelievable
Surely you need proof of this though it's not enough to say a court found him guilty as how many times has a court found someone guilty who wasn't.
Also how exactly do you prove you never hit someone who says you did? It's really difficult and it's why I can't see him winning here either but I don't think that's his aim.
So men should only get with people that are more poweful than them so they can't be accused of power abuse? Bloody caveman.
I don't know what the proof was in the high court but I am assuming it must have been solid proof against him if they found 12 cases of violence (of the original 14 he was appealing against). Unless I'm wrong, the current case is not about who has been the guilty party but if Johnny Depp has indeed defamed Amber Heard so how they gather proof for any of this will be interesting.
Well I replied to someone who was making conclusions based off of the fact that Johnny Depp is a bigger star than Amber who, according to them, is also not that pretty. My reply was essentially showing why such judgements don't hold because you could offer a different narrative as well.
My conclusion is court cases aren't decided by this
as an FYI, yeah men should maybe not marry women 20 years younger than them to not raise eyebrows but that's just a personal opinion.
It's so odd that everyone is so quick to disregard everything she is saying. There has to be some reference point for this. Its not easy to remain coherent if you are making this up or made this up as you go along.
There has to be some truth to this. I can't say Jonny Depp wasnt abused but it's clear that the sexual abuse allegations against Depp are far more serious in nature.
I would think it's best to wait for the cross to see if this testimony holds up
There has to be some truth to this. I can't say Jonny Depp wasnt abused but it's clear that the sexual abuse allegations against Depp are far more serious in nature.
I would think it's best to wait for the cross to see if this testimony holds up
Yeah it's a bit chilling to see some of this stuff get laughed off. I mean, maybe she is some seriously twisted evil person who is completely making this up but I wanna say the odds of that are a little low (of none of this happening at all).
I guess this is a thing beyond this thread? #teamjonny or #teamamber. I know that football fans can’t really take any moral highground about rooting for over-privileged morally bankrupt douchebags but still…
Evidence is damning here. She's clearly been abused.
Yeah
abused by not getting in her 8 hours.Huh? It's almost as if people want her to be beaten harder to have a case.Yeah
You’re coming out with some concerning statements with respect to the treatment of partners in relationshipsYeah
Have you ever seen someone with a broken nose? This isn't it chief.Huh? It's almost as if people want her to be beaten harder to have a case.
Depp can very well be a jealous asshole but she wrote an article accusing him of both physical and sexual abuse. We'll see if she can prove he did those things, I doubt it after watching the trial so far.
So because she isn’t seven shades of purple, it’s not severe enough for it to be considered domestic violence in your book?
Of course the majority have sided one way, what do you expect? There are so many evidences that shown Amber is such a horrible person and has put Johnny into such ordeal over past few years, yet she still manages to get away with it. For this reason alone, of course everyone will hate her.
I think for all her talk of physical abuse from Depp I have seen two images of her, that one and another with a reddened cheek.
And apparently theres no metadata/altered metadata for every image, so as evidence they're basically worthless. Considering the amount of secret recording going on you would think the serious physical abuse she describes would have at least some evidence.
And apparently theres no metadata/altered metadata for every image, so as evidence they're basically worthless. Considering the amount of secret recording going on you would think the serious physical abuse she describes would have at least some evidence.