The club have scrapped the club's annual Player of the Year ceremony in the wake of their worst-ever Premier League season.

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fecking cowards, can't even have the balls to face the music

God I hate this team
The club cancelled it not the players.

What would your opinion of the players been if they collected awards for this season?
 

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Where was "first team" in the previous post that I replied to mentioned??
It wasn't needed as I listed Rangnick, Solsjkaer and Carrick. From the context obviously I was referring to the first team.

And also it was a fecking joke mate. Lighten up.
 

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The club cancelled it not the players.

What would your opinion of the players been if they collected awards fir this season?
I would like to know the official reason, not the speculation reason, as to why there has been a cancellation.

This has been a successful season for the club as a whole, so why not have the successful players pick up their trophies, what would be wrong with that??
 

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It wasn't needed as I listed Rangnick, Solsjkaer and Carrick. From the context obviously I was referring to the first team.

And also it was a fecking joke mate. Lighten up.
Okay.......sarcasm can sometimes be a little hard to detect in purely text form, so my bad then, sorry.
 

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I would like to know the official reason, not the speculation reason, as to why there has been a cancellation.

This has been a successful season for the club as a whole, so why not have the successful players pick up their trophies, what would be wrong with that??
The club announced the other week they were going to be overhauling the clubs social media. You would assume this is part of that as it would be bad PR.

But yeah you're right it's harsh on the youth and women's teams to not get awards they deserve.
 

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I would like to know the official reason, not the speculation reason, as to why there has been a cancellation.

This has been a successful season for the club as a whole, so why not have the successful players pick up their trophies, what would be wrong with that??
Sorry what? It's only been topped in patheticness by the Moyes season and even that was only because they'd been champions the year before, and this season we've finally made what will hopefully be a decent managerial appointment. I suppose the youth cup success is something to cheer for the club as well. Rest of it has been an utter shambles from start to finish from board level down to the players.
 

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Never cared about these awards post Fergie. A celebration of failure honouring the best from the bad bunch. They should hold the event as planned and run down the highlights of past 9 years on the screen and particularly of this season which should never be forgotten in the club’s history going forward.

Everyone from the board level to the players should be ashamed of themselves. They have taken down the club to its knees, embarrassed and utterly humiliated by their two biggest rivals in the process who are fighting for the title going into the last day of the season and one of them, the most bitter one is hunting down the unprecedented quadruple. If that doesn’t shake this whole club to its very core and the conscience of every one associated in the decision making process of this club then I don’t know what will.
 

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The club announced the other week they were going to be overhauling the clubs social media. You would assume this is part of that as it would be bad PR.

But yeah you're right it's harsh on the youth and women's teams to not get awards they deserve.
It wouldn't be bad PR at all to celebrate the many successes we have had this season.
We have seen to my count or knowledge, at least three trophies coming our way this season, and one of them being a league title.

So how would celebrating them be be bad PR??
 

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Sorry what? It's only been topped in patheticness by the Moyes season and even that was only because they'd been champions the year before, and this season we've finally made what will hopefully be a decent managerial appointment. I suppose the youth cup success is something to cheer for the club as well. Rest of it has been an utter shambles from start to finish from board level down to the players.
Err....again the club does not equal men's first team, the club is ALL of the teams that represent it.
Just because one team has had a poor season, doesn't automatically mean the club itself has.

This has overall been a very successful one, with multiple trophies won.
How has it been a shambles when one side has won a double, including a league title?

Why this incorrect and wrong notion that the club automatically means the men's first team has come from, I don't know, but there is so much more to the club than just one team.
 

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It wouldn't be bad PR at all to celebrate the many successes we have had this season.
We have seen to my count or knowledge, at least three trophies coming our way this season, and one of them being a league title.

So how would celebrating them be be bad PR??
99% of United fans have never watched a single minute of the womens team and simply don't care about it.
 

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Never cared about these awards post Fergie. A celebration of failure honouring the best from the bad bunch. They should hold the event as planned and run down the highlights of past 9 years on the screen and particularly of this season which should never be forgotten in the club’s history going forward.

Everyone from the board level to the players should be ashamed of themselves. They have taken down the club to its knees, embarrassed and utterly humiliated by their two biggest rivals in the process who are fighting for the title going into the last day of the season and one of them, the most bitter one is hunting down the unprecedented quadruple. If that doesn’t shake this whole club to its very core and the conscience of every one associated in the decision making process of this club then I don’t know what will.
I agree they should hold highlights of the past few years, there we would see the women's first team winning the Championship, and the a fair few other trophies from other sides that have been successful.

Why should the players that have played well this season be embarrassed because the men's first team have been poor??
 

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99% of United fans have never watched a single minute of the womens team and simply don't care about it.
And you have gotten that stat from where may I just enquire?
Where is the evidence to back it up??
 

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Err....again the club does not equal men's first team, the club is ALL of the teams that represent it.
Just because one team has had a poor season, doesn't automatically mean the club itself has.

This has overall been a very successful one, with multiple trophies won.
How has it been a shambles when one side has won a double, including a league title?

Why this incorrect and wrong notion that the club automatically means the men's first team has come from, I don't know, but there is so much more to the club than just one team.
No
 

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It wouldn't be bad PR at all to celebrate the many successes we have had this season.
We have seen to my count or knowledge, at least three trophies coming our way this season, and one of them being a league title.

So how would celebrating them be be bad PR??
No but parading the first team around and handing them awards would be bad PR.
 

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And you have gotten that stat from where may I just enquire?
Where is the evidence to back it up??
No-one in my large group of friends watches the womens team or has any interest in it. Your claim that it's been a successful season because the women did well comes across as trolling. It's the mens senior team that put bums on seats and bring in the ticket sales and sponsorships.
 

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No but parading the first team around and handing them awards would be bad PR.
We have two first teams, so why would parading Ella, Ona & Alessia around with awards be a bad thing?
Or Ronaldo from the men's first team?

Where would the bad PR for them be coming from, as they all have played very well this season.
 

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I disagree on this. They should've given it to Maguire. As he said, he is starting, so he must be playing well
I assume he's already nailed on for the Puskas award for his goal against Albania that shut up all the doubters.
 

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We have two first teams, so why would parading Ella, Ona & Alessia around with awards be a bad thing?
Or Ronaldo from the men's first team?

Where would the bad PR for them be coming from, as they all have played very well this season.
Yes the women's team has had a successful season and I don't think anyone would have had a problem with the youth and women's teams having their own awards ceremony.

But the first team has just had its worst season in 30-40 years to have them all suited and booted picking up awards is something the club clearly thinks would be bad optics.
 

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It wouldn't be bad PR at all to celebrate the many successes we have had this season.
We have seen to my count or knowledge, at least three trophies coming our way this season, and one of them being a league title.

So how would celebrating them be be bad PR??
They should have a women's team awards ceremony for sure, and the men should be made to go to it. The women's team having a good season does not make this a good season for the club overall though. The investment to success ratio is appalling.
 

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We have two first teams, so why would parading Ella, Ona & Alessia around with awards be a bad thing?
Or Ronaldo from the men's first team?

Where would the bad PR for them be coming from, as they all have played very well this season.
Whether you like it not, the women's team is well below the men's team in regards to what they bring to the club. Season tickets, sponsorships etc, it all comes off the back of the men's team. That's not to say the women's team is not important, but you seem to think they're both pulling the same weight.

You even suggested that when ETH comes in, he should look to work closely with the women's team to aid some continuity between both teams. As if that's somehow his job when he's already got enough on his plate.

Ridiculous.
 

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No-one in my large group of friends watches the womens team or has any interest in it. Your claim that it's been a successful season because the women did well comes across as trolling. It's the mens senior team that put bums on seats and bring in the ticket sales and sponsorships.
Fair enough if that is the case for you and your friends, but that doesn't automatically equate to ALL or 99% of ALL of the fanbase would wide.

The fact is the club is much more than any one team, it is there to represent ALL of the teams.
 

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They can still give out awards, just don't need a big party.

Only awards they do need to scrap is the main teams players player and fans player.

But ultimately Ronaldo deserved those
 
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And the award for the longest fecking thread title goes to.......
 

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Whether you like it not, the women's team is well below the men's team in regards to what they bring to the club. Season tickets, sponsorships etc, it all comes off the back of the men's team. That's not to say the women's team is not important, but you seem to think they're both pulling the same weight.

You even suggested that when ETH comes in, he should look to work closely with the women's team to aid some continuity between both teams. As if that's somehow his job when he's already got enough on his plate.

Ridiculous.
I agree with you about the sponsorships etc, that is just factually accurate, but we are talking about the club as a whole, for an awards night, to celebrate what the club and ALL of it's players and staff have achieved, this isn't called the Manchester United men's first team awards is it??
It is a night where ALL of what has been achieved by ALL of the clubs players and staff is rightly celebrated.
Why that should be cancelled or thought that this is the right idea, just because one of the teams that represent the club underperformed is what is ridiculous here.
 

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Why was it a good decision??

There is far more to the club as a whole, then just the men's first team.

This was an opportunity to showcase just how successful this season has been for the club at youth level especially, with the women's developmental side doing the double, and the boys side winning the FA Youth Cup.

I don't quite understand why people think that the club automatically equals or means, men's first team, when that just isn't the case at all.

What about all of the other awards that are handed out usually on the night, Young Player of the Season, U18's Player of the Season, & Women's Player of the Season, why is it a good thing to scrap giving those awards out, just because one team at the club has been poor??

If hypothetically next season, the women's first team has a poor season, say finishing 8th, but the men's finishes second in the league, (a big hypothetical I understand), would the awards still go ahead, or would they not due to one teams under performance??

This is why it is crazy, if and it is still a big if, this is actually the reason for not holding them, in what has been a really good season for the club overall.
I had no idea the women's team even won the double, but it's definitely worth celebrating. Can't they have a separate ceremony?
 

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They should have a women's team awards ceremony for sure, and the men should be made to go to it. The women's team having a good season does not make this a good season for the club overall though. The investment to success ratio is appalling.
Out of interest, what would make for a good season for the club overall?
Why shouldn't the successes that have been achieved this season be celebrated?
The FA Youth Cup winning side for example is worth being happy about is it not??
 

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Fair enough if that is the case for you and your friends, but that doesn't automatically equate to ALL or 99% of ALL of the fanbase would wide.

The fact is the club is much more than any one team, it is there to represent ALL of the teams.
The womens team exists for PR purposes because the club didn't want to be accused of being sexist. They don't bring anything to the table financially as there is little interest in it from most united fans.

The football market is already oversaturated as fans can turn on the tv and watch games in the top leagues in numerous different countries. So most fans aren't going to bother spending their limited free time on a vastly inferior product like the womens game, this is just common sense.
 

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I had no idea the women's team even won the double, but it's definitely worth celebrating. Can't they have a separate ceremony?
The women's developmental side did, just as the men's youth side won the FA Youth Cup.

Why should there be a separate awards night?
This awards night is supposed to be a celebration of what the club overall has achieved.
Why split things up?
Why not look to bring everyone together for one night to celebrate everyone's successes??
 

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The womens team exists for PR purposes because the club didn't want to be accused of being sexist. They don't bring anything to the table financially as there is little interest in it from most united fans.

The football market is already oversaturated as fans can turn on the tv and watch games in the top leagues in numerous different countries. So most fans aren't going to bother spending their limited free time on a vastly inferior product like the womens game, this is just common sense.
It might indeed have started out for purely PR purposes, to "keep up with the Jones'" so to speak, but it is growing I'm popularity each year it is in existence, over 20k watching the game at Old Trafford against Everton would be testament to that.
 

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I would like to know the official reason, not the speculation reason, as to why there has been a cancellation.

This has been a successful season for the club as a whole, so why not have the successful players pick up their trophies, what would be wrong with that??
Because people follow United mostly for the men's first team, regardless of you liking this absolute fact or not. 99% of the official Twitter and Facebook accounts posts are about men's first team. 99% of discussions about Man United on internet are about the men's first team. You not liking this fact doesn't change anything.
 

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We may end the season with a negative goal difference. Let that sink in. I am not surprised about the cancellation. Might have become a venue for fans to gather, boo and protest.