BBC apologises for calling a spade a spade

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I worked for the BBC, it's really no surprise how things like this end up on TV, surprised more of it doesn't actually happen, bunch of amateurs for the most part non of which know anything computer "I.T" related, the amount of stuff they delete and need to recover "urgently" and f##k ups they do is a weekly thing
 

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Unfortunately they are completely and utterly bang on

Apart from De Gea and Ronaldo the "senior" players are an absolute embarrassment to the club. But oh they don't care they'll still get their obscene wages

Having to watch Liverpool come so close to a historic quadruple, which would have eclipsed our historic treble, while watching our players stroll round the pitch losing to nearly everyone made this the season from fecking hell and I'm so glad it's over

The only SLIGHT positive is its got so bad it seems to have finally set about the winds of change. Structural changes, and an exciting manager brought in, however I shall reserve judgement until I see what happens with the transfer market

If I see Lingard offered a huge new contract to stop him leaving, it may finish me off...
 

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Unfortunately they are completely and utterly bang on

Apart from De Gea and Ronaldo the "senior" players are an absolute embarrassment to the club. But oh they don't care they'll still get their obscene wages

Having to watch Liverpool come so close to a historic quadruple, which would have eclipsed our historic treble, while watching our players stroll round the pitch losing to nearly everyone made this the season from fecking hell and I'm so glad it's over

The only SLIGHT positive is its got so bad it seems to have finally set about the winds of change. Structural changes, and an exciting manager brought in, however I shall reserve judgement until I see what happens with the transfer market

If I see Lingard offered a huge new contract to stop him leaving, it may finish me off...
It's not that deep, it was an intern pissing about
 

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Well, let's just say if we sue them for defamation, the judge would throw it out of court within five seconds - and have to admit I burst out laughing when I heard
 
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If you cant laugh at your yourself or the club you support you dont have a sense of humour.
 

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Why apologise? In fact, the bbc should be praised for unbiased and factual reporting for once.
 

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I worked for the BBC, it's really no surprise how things like this end up on TV, surprised more of it doesn't actually happen, bunch of amateurs for the most part non of which know anything computer "I.T" related, the amount of stuff they delete and need to recover "urgently" and f##k ups they do is a weekly thing
Like all companies then.

I used to think senior management and CEO's had thier shit together, but now i've worked my way to that position - I realise we're all imposters. Hence why i'm on redcafe in the middle of a working day :lol:
 

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Gary Lineker steamed in with a "Why Apologise?" Twitter joke, which might be funny if I believed he would do it to anyone else.
 
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Mods need to get rid of the images above. This is either defamatory of the player or could be seen as contempt of court. Not a good idea either way
 

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Mods need to get rid of the images above. This is either defamatory of the player or could be seen as contempt of court. Not a good idea either way
It's neither of those things, is it? It's taking the piss at the BBC.
 

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It's neither of those things, is it? It's taking the piss at the BBC.
There is talk about one thing with the pic there. That, my friend, is all a judge needs to see. But maybe you've got a better law degree than me...
 

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There is talk about one thing with the pic there. That, my friend, is all a judge needs to see
Strictly speaking you're right, but it would never even make it to court, it is obviously a genuine mistake and can be shown to be one very easily.

The fact that Sterling's picture is removed immediately (I imagine they were talking about his transfer to Chelsea in the story before and left the picture up a couple of seconds too long) and that the presenter clearly says the player can not be named also help a lot. There's no real contempt or defamation here really. If the Twitter account claimed that Sterling was the player (it didn't and he isn't) then possibly it could open it up for a legal challenge.
 

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Strictly speaking you're right, but it would never even make it to court, it is obviously a genuine mistake and can be shown to be one very easily.

The fact that Sterling's picture is removed immediately (I imagine they were talking about his transfer to Chelsea in the story before and left the picture up a couple of seconds too long) and that the presenter clearly says the player can not be named also help a lot. There's no real contempt or defamation here really. If the Twitter account claimed that Sterling was the player (it didn't and he isn't) then possibly it could open it up for a legal challenge.
but the images remain on here, which could be seen as repeating defamation - and that's often seen as worse by a judge. I know it's very unlikely to happen but mods are quick enough to stamp down on some things and this seems rather more important to me
 

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but the images remain on here, which could be seen as repeating defamation - and that's often seen as worse by a judge. I know it's very unlikely to happen but mods are quick enough to stamp down on some things and this seems rather more important to me
Fair enough. It's always better to be safe than sorry.
 

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Poor anchorman, trying to remain professional and coherent while a director is clearly having a meltdown in his ear!
 

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What are you on about :lol:
it's called possible defamation. look it up. we have a screenshot (and therefore published) a mistake made on TV. If false, it's defamatory. if turns out the player is charged, a judge could see it as contempt (a defence lawyer worth a few quid would be remiss not to to try to press that case)
 

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it's called possible defamation. look it up. we have a screenshot (and therefore published) a mistake made on TV. If false, it's defamatory. if turns out the player is charged, a judge could see it as contempt (a defence lawyer worth a few quid would be remiss not to to try to press that case)
'we' haven't published anything, it is an embedded tweet that contains a video, published on Twitter. I don't think Niall will be getting life for it.
 

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it's called possible defamation. look it up. we have a screenshot (and therefore published) a mistake made on TV. If false, it's defamatory. if turns out the player is charged, a judge could see it as contempt (a defence lawyer worth a few quid would be remiss not to to try to press that case)
 

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That, my friend, is all a judge needs to see. But maybe you've got a better law degree than me...
How do you know when a knob has a law degree?…..because they tell you.

also…turns out your law degree might not be all that good after all. For a defamatory statement to be actionable it needs to be false. What Samid posted was accompanied by a big heading signalling that the player in the image being accused by the BBC was the “wrong” player. There is nothing false about that.
 
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At least change the name of the thread; the BBC were right to call us rubbish but this is a pretty bad feck up. I feel for the presenter, absolutely hung out to dry.
 

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How do you know when a knob has a law degree?…..because they tell you.

also…turns out your law degree might not be all that good after all. For a defamatory statement to be actionable it needs to be false. What Samid posted was accompanied by a big heading signalling that the player in the image being accused by the BBC was the “wrong” player. There is nothing false about that.
but we haven't put up that sign, have we? No we've just screenshotted the mistake. Turns out qualifications are pretty good. and if you look back, I was asked how I know it could be seen as defamatory. but I'm sure you know best just like I know about brain surgery because I know it's located in your head...
 

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'we' haven't published anything, it is an embedded tweet that contains a video, published on Twitter. I don't think Niall will be getting life for it.
I think you might need to buy the Ladybird Book on Law, which will tell you what "published" means when it comes to defamation...