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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Frenkie my dear, I don't give a damn.
It’s actually Brenkie now. We boolin don’t tell @ReallyUSA
So Sanchez, Ozil and the rest of them were all £90 million value players that Madrid and Barcelona sold off for half of that were they. So why didnt other clubs come in and sign them for £90 million from their next clubs?You have a whole laundry list of players who were not bought by another top team for £90 million. A whole list. And the answer is obvious. Because thats huge money and they were worth closer to the smaller fees that the clubs paid for them to sign them from Madrid and Barcelona.
So of course they werent £90 million players like Pogba wasnt for us.
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They had them before they signed him too.
I rate them but I wouldnt want my club to spend £80 million on one of them either. Maybe in 3 years. But maybe not and they're at Getafe or Celta Vigo at that point like Alena, Denis Suarez and the rest
Edit - New contract for Sergi Roberto! Another that got hyped up because he's coming through at Barcelona and is now a backup rightback and CM who plays 4 league games a season
And yes, we have a similar thing here where people hype up most of our young players and they end up being lucky if they have a premier league career
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Whether other clubs come in for them or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is whether they made solid contributions at their next clubs and Ozil/Sanchez were a devastating duo that produced one of Arsenal's best spell of form in Wenger's latter years.
You have a whole laundry list of players who were not bought by another top team for £90 million. A whole list. And the answer is obvious. Because thats huge money and they were worth closer to the smaller fees that the clubs paid for them to sign them from Madrid and Barcelona.
So of course they werent £90 million players like Pogba wasnt for us.
Lack of "interest" doesn't take away the fact that Frenkie is a quality CM that's an immediate and astronomical upgrade on our options.
Great news if it happens. We still need another top quality midfielder next to him. Sangare looks like the one.
We also have Steven, Steven and Stefan.
No.
You're taking an argument about whether he'd be another Pogba, where another poster has suggested all these players are worth what we paid for Pogba at their next clubs as a contrary point.
So yes, all that matters is if they or De Jong would in fact be worth the money we spent on Pogba. That is the discussion. If you arent interested in that dont jump in
I’m just waiting for a tweet saying “frenkie then” before I get excited.
jokes aside, what an upgrade this would be for our midfield if it were to happen, I hope we can get one more midfielder though.
jokes aside, what an upgrade this would be for our midfield if it were to happen, I hope we can get one more midfielder though.
Frenkie and Sangare would give us as balanced a midfield as we've had in years
McTominey isn't a DM, not even close.
What? Money in 2009 was not the same value as now? And not all of them were valued the same/or as proven.
You have a whole laundry list of players who were not bought by another top team for £90 million. A whole list. And the answer is obvious. Because thats huge money and they were worth closer to the smaller fees that the clubs paid for them to sign them from Madrid and Barcelona.
So of course they werent £90 million players like Pogba wasnt for us.
I'm just saying it's an entirely irrelevant example. A player can be a world class player or a great signing for one club and a bad (or not perfect) fit for another club. That's literally all there is to it. What are you trying to say exactly? That De Jong isn't worth a high price? By what logic is he not worth a high price? He has plenty of years left on his deal, he has world class and unique talent, and he has shown this very often! He's not a random bench player who hasn't fulfilled potential and is seen as a flop, he isn't a player who has 1 year left on his deal, he isn't always injured so the team is over it... He's a high value player who Barcelona just are able to sell without changing their future plans because they happen to have Pedri already. So for a team in financial need like them, it just makes sense.
So The Sun reporting he wants to come (and agreed to ages ago) but others saying we are a long away from Barca's asking price.... here we go again: offering £5.20 and free MUTV for a year
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Frenkie says relax.
I'm saying exactly what ive said in previous posts in this thread, perhaps you should read them.
If we sign him it should be at a cut price from Barcelona's deal and his wages there. We shouldnt be doing a deal similar to the Barcelona one which would be another Pogba situation
I dont have any faith in us not doing the Barcelona deal though. Thats why I think we're setting up for failure.
Mental innit. Over here, it's a trend among poor white people to use children's nicknames officially. "Frenkie", "Donny", etc.
Imagine a grown Stam being called "Jaapie"
It's still preferably to rich white people giving their children 2 names. "Jan Willem", "Anne Fleur" are given names, and most of these babies (after supposedly growing up), will get upset if you only use one of the two.
That's not how football works though? If you are trying to sign a top player like De Jong, who is young, not injury prone, has years left on his contract... How exactly do you plan to sign him on a cut price deal? They would just say no.
Pogba situation? What Pogba situation? You do realize Tchouameni just went for 100m. Someone like Ruben Neves or Tielemans are priced at 50m. In what world is De Jong not worth somewhere around 80m? The Pogba situation was one where he was injury prone, getting on in age and visibly declining, so teams didn't want to spend big on that. In 2016, he just wasn't used properly while he was in his prime and so he was wasted. This really isn't anything like that so I don't get what you're trying to say.
Are you against signing anyone above 60m or something? Do you not rate De Jong? Do you think we don't need a deep playmaking midfielder?
Waiting for all the people that enjoy self loathing moaning about the haggling of the fee, when Barcelona are basically on the verge of going bust and in a very exploitable situation.
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Ruud has the best name ever: Rutgerus Johannes Martinus van Nistelrooij. Like, what?Mental innit. Over here, it's a trend among poor white people to use children's nicknames officially. "Frenkie", "Donny", etc.
Imagine a grown Stam being called "Jaapie"
It's still preferably to rich white people giving their children 2 names. "Jan Willem", "Anne Fleur" are given names, and most of these babies (after supposedly growing up), will get upset if you only use one of the two.
More of these types of tweets from the reliable journos, then it's time to celebrate!
More reliable than Raza? Good one.
Ten Hags done his bit in persuading de jong to join… over to you now murtough.
I was more referring to having several trusted sources in a short time period tweeting breaking news
I was being a sarcastic idiot.
How reliable is this guy?
I half assumed, but doubled down on the thought you weren'tI was being a sarcastic idiot.
.But seriously, sorry Raza you are totes reliable and this is an exciting update
Looking at his profile picture, I would say….extremely.
There surely must be a middle ground between Aloysius Paulus Maria Van Gaal and Donny from the brook?Mental innit. Over here, it's a trend among poor white people to use children's nicknames officially. "Frenkie", "Donny", etc.
Imagine a grown Stam being called "Jaapie"
It's still preferably to rich white people giving their children 2 names. "Jan Willem", "Anne Fleur" are given names, and most of these babies (after supposedly growing up), will get upset if you only use one of the two.
I do hope we get a really aggressive ball winner to play alongside him and help him out. Physicality and aggression is really lacking in this team
I would question if he is a United fan (truly) … I almost asked but didn’t want the “oh so you’re a ‘true’ fan are you because you think the club’s perfect?” reply
In all seriousness, he went very early with the Ten Hag being done news, when it was still very much deemed a 2 horse race between him and Poch. But there is every chance that he just gambled with no 'reputation' to lose and is going big again (on something that looks increasingly likely). Basically, I don't think he's been proven to be full of shit yet, but there is every chance he just got lucky.I half assumed, but doubled down on the thought you weren't
But seriously, sorry Raza you are totes reliable and this is an exciting update
He asked twitter to design that for him. I'm not joking.
Fair weather fan
If we see a stream of trusted sources coming through this afternoon with the same message, then he gets more credit from me!
As reliable as a chocolate teapot.
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